Zone1 Are allies worth keeping ?

[Tommy Tainant]

Given the isolationist mood in the US at the moment I thought it worth posing the question.
Is there any value on keeping alliamces ?
Can nations do it on their own ?
Is America or the world safe inder isolationist politics and why ?

 

[JustAGuy1]

Since the 60's we are the worst ally you could ever have.

 

[rampart]

Since the 60's we are the worst ally you could ever have.

"who has america as a friend needs no enemies" madame nhu

 

[Anathema]

We could do it. Were one of few nations that could. Unfortunately, we won’t.

 

[excalibur]

George Washington's no permanent alliances.

Time to move on because Washington knew it was corrupting, and we see how corrupting it has become through Ukraine.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Trump is not capable of being anyone's ally.

So we will have do wait on the election.

 

[cnm]

We could do it. Were one of few nations that could. Unfortunately, we won’t.

Like you don't have allies on your borders.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

We don't have allies on our borders. They have no choice.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Since the 60's we are the worst ally you could ever have.

I think the kurds wouuld agree.

 

[JustAGuy1]

I think the kurds wouuld agree.

As would the South Vietnamese

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The SV elite were pretty bad, too,

 

[sartre play]

I think the kurds wouuld agree.

YES, one of our very bad choices.

 

[American Eagle]

It's a two edged sword. Your enemies will have allies. If you're alone, they will ally against you. Smaller countries hardly have a choice. The Philippines has an escalated conflict with China right now. They will, of course, go with the U.S. and Japan. Even countries like Canada need to ally with a power like the U.S.

If you're just talking about the US, then I don't think we will become isolationist any time soon.

 

[luiza]

Since the 60's we are the worst ally you could ever have.

Before that .
WW2 .Patten was a mad man -- the real Patten , not the invented one .
The US joined the Korean war in 1950 .

The big question then is where did that technology come from ( a millenium worth in a decade) that encouraged America to become arrogant , patronising and the planet's number one Terrorist country ?
That is , not an ally that you wanted to ever trust if you did not do as told .

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It's a two edged sword. Your enemies will have allies. If you're alone, they will ally against you. Smaller countries hardly have a choice. The Philippines has an escalated conflict with China right now. They will, of course, go with the U.S. and Japan. Even countries like Canada need to ally with a power like the U.S.

If you're just talking about the US, then I don't think we will become isolationist any time soon.

The Philippines has turned down an offer of assistance from the US and has made stronger ties with Japan.

We will see more and more of this as the US is no longer a reliable ally. The world is moving on, most here have not figured that out yet.

 

[sparky]

What constitutes 'allegiance'....? ~S~

 

[JoeB131]

"who has america as a friend needs no enemies" madame nhu

Madam Nhu and her Husband and Bother-in-Law were French Quislings who tried to impose Catholicism on a Buddhist Nation that really wanted to give Communism a go.

Not to say that America is a great ally, but we are willing to sacrifice blood and treasure to safeguard other countries, including hers, as futile as that was.

 

[JoeB131]

The Philippines has turned down an offer of assistance from the US and has made stronger ties with Japan.

We will see more and more of this as the US is no longer a reliable ally. The world is moving on, most here have not figured that out yet.

The Philippines are a unique case, because they have bad memories of American colonization. Not to mention, all their hot women keep trying to send themselves off as mail-order brides.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Madam Nhu and her Husband and Bother-in-Law were French Quislings who tried to impose Catholicism on a Buddhist Nation that really wanted to give Communism a go.

Not to say that America is a great ally, but we are willing to sacrifice blood and treasure to safeguard other countries, including hers, as futile as that was.

We did not do it to safeguard her country, we did it to stop the spread of the Red Menace, the same excuse we used to commit all sorts of illegal actions around the world.

 

[American Eagle]

The Philippines has turned down an offer of assistance from the US and has made stronger ties with Japan.

We will see more and more of this as the US is no longer a reliable ally. The world is moving on, most here have not figured that out yet.

They turned it down publicly.