Are All Black Americans Racist?

[saveliberty]

I've seen quite a number of posters on here, suggest, if not outright make that claim that all blacks voted for Obama because he's black....I'm quite sure you have too, as you're on here more than me.

i've seen it

If you study all my posts, you will see that it is THOSE people that I suggest are acting as racists do. You yourself agree that those views, which I call out, are racist.

So the auto-reaction for those folks to then call me, who is anti-racist, racist...is just utter nonsense. Or defense.

Is it not?

If one "studies" your posts, you find that you called yourself a racist. We are just acknowledging that point.

 

[Samson]

i've seen it

If you study all my posts, you will see that it is THOSE people that I suggest are acting as racists do. You yourself agree that those views, which I call out, are racist.

So the auto-reaction for those folks to then call me, who is anti-racist, racist...is just utter nonsense. Or defense.

Is it not?

in this thread you have been more rational than i have seen you be in other threads
i will give you credit for that

Yet, you've never given me credit for being more rational in any thread than any others.

You *****.

 

[DiveCon]

If you study all my posts, you will see that it is THOSE people that I suggest are acting as racists do. You yourself agree that those views, which I call out, are racist.

So the auto-reaction for those folks to then call me, who is anti-racist, racist...is just utter nonsense. Or defense.

Is it not?

in this thread you have been more rational than i have seen you be in other threads
i will give you credit for that

Yet, you've never given me credit for being more rational in any thread than any others.

You *****.

you????

when have you been "rational"?????

 

[Samson]

in this thread you have been more rational than i have seen you be in other threads
i will give you credit for that

Yet, you've never given me credit for being more rational in any thread than any others.

You *****.

you????

when have you been "rational"?????

Maybe it was before I joined USMB

 

[Titanic Sailor]

Sweet, now we are redefining racism to excuse black hatred and mistreatment of whites so prevalent in our nation today...............

OK, have fun. This white devil is going out in the world to do some good today in spite of massive black hatred and racism in our nation.

 

[saveliberty]

Sweet, now we are redefining racism to excuse black hatred and mistreatment of whites so prevalent in our nation today...............

OK, have fun. This white devil is going out in the world to do some good today in spite of massive black hatred and racism in our nation.

It has been that way for a while Titanic, we just have confirmation.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

yes.

because they're black, silly.

"I had never heard a kind word from a white man in my life," he said, "and I had hatred for white men."​

Fortunately....for everyone....all Whites aren't White-Trash.....and, "conservatives" are doing everything-they-can, to "fix" that. ​

Today's new-word, for English-challenged "conservatives":

Outnumbered

 

[DiveCon]

yes.

because they're black, silly.

"I had never heard a kind word from a white man in my life," he said, "and I had hatred for white men."​

Fortunately....for everyone....all Whites aren't White-Trash.....and, "conservatives" are doing everything-they-can, to "fix" that. ​

Today's new-word, for English-challenged "conservatives":

Outnumbered

you are a ******* IDIOT
but do keep posting and proving it

 

[rhet 2]

DiveCon,

One racist attitude is to hold the view that all blacks that voted for Obama are racist.

Going forward, I'll make an effort to point out (for your benefit) racist views when I see them on here.

Not possible

The best you can do is point out statements that offend you because you interpret them as racist put downs.

When you become God, then you can actually see inside somebody else's head to know what they are and are not thinking and know what their attitudes may be.

Until then, you're stuck with your own perceptions bent and twisted by your own apriori assumptions and beliefs.

So am I.

So is Dive.

It's called "the Universal Human Condition."

Want to argue that it seems to many people that the primary reason a whole lot of Blacks voted for Obama is his skin color and his promises of a free ride to "social redemption" via the taking of what others work their butts off to earn?

That's not to say it's a valid opinion -- only that a lot of folks seem to be reaching the same conclusion based on their perceptions of Sharpton, Jackson, Rangel, Obama, Pelosi, Reid and a LOT of Democrat Power Pigs screaming RACISM!!!! every time somebody has the guts to stand up and challenge their damned destructive social policies, their arrogance, and their open greed for money they did not earn so they can buy votes from others who crave money they don't earn, either.

 

[taichiliberal]

How many of you feel that to be true?

Why/why not?

Expound....

No more or less than any other race and/or ethnicity in America.....the varying degrees and explanations can be directly examined by reviewing the specific race and/or ethinicity's history in the USA from the first colonizers/immigrants to present day inhabitants.

 

[rhet 2]

How many of you feel that to be true?

Why/why not?

Expound....

No more or less than any other race and/or ethnicity in America.....the varying degrees and explanations can be directly examined by reviewing the specific race and/or ethinicity's history in the USA from the first colonizers/immigrants to present day inhabitants.

Which, of course, presumes that the great-great-great-great-something multiple generations later on are exact clones in attitudes and beliefs as long dead and rotted ancestors.

Sorry

Kids often defy their parents -- and the further removed in time and geography from the ancestors, the more variation there can and often is.

Are the grandkids of Germans living in Germany today also Nazis out to slaughter ever nasty Jew and Romany on the planet? and are all modern-day Italians exactly like the Roman Senatorial and hoi peloi of 2000 years ago?

Cultures change, sometimes very sharply, suddenly and radically -- and sometimes simply through slow cultural shifts.

Including language: Nu schulon herigean is ENGLISH only 1200 years ago -- and Whan is when only 500 years ago --

and I've yet to meet a kid who had the exact same cultural values as his father.

Blacks today are no more like their great-grandparents than Whites today are -- and the assumption that they could be is to shove them into the coffins of the past and deny them their own unique creativity by ignoring intensely personal variations on a theme.

Cultures change far more rapidly than biology evolves.

 

[taichiliberal]

How many of you feel that to be true?

Why/why not?

Expound....

No more or less than any other race and/or ethnicity in America.....the varying degrees and explanations can be directly examined by reviewing the specific race and/or ethinicity's history in the USA from the first colonizers/immigrants to present day inhabitants.

Which, of course, presumes that the great-great-great-great-something multiple generations later on are exact clones in attitudes and beliefs as long dead and rotted ancestors.

Sorry

Kids often defy their parents -- and the further removed in time and geography from the ancestors, the more variation there can and often is.

Are the grandkids of Germans living in Germany today also Nazis out to slaughter ever nasty Jew and Romany on the planet? and are all modern-day Italians exactly like the Roman Senatorial and hoi peloi of 2000 years ago?

Cultures change, sometimes very sharply, suddenly and radically -- and sometimes simply through slow cultural shifts.

Including language: Nu schulon herigean is ENGLISH only 1200 years ago -- and Whan is when only 500 years ago --

and I've yet to meet a kid who had the exact same cultural values as his father.

Blacks today are no more like their great-grandparents than Whites today are -- and the assumption that they could be is to shove them into the coffins of the past and deny them their own unique creativity by ignoring intensely personal variations on a theme.

Cultures change far more rapidly than biology evolves.

Let me clarify a few things for you:

Jim Crow laws officially ended about 46 years ago. I'm in my early 50's... so that means the bullshit that started as out and out slavery for my ancestors and maintained for a few centuries finally saw it's last legal vestiges in these United States during my lifetime.

Since then, you've had various State, city and county DA's throughout America prosecute realators for cases of "red lining".....on Long Island, NY there were several noted cases during the late 1980's. I could spend time documenting various cases, incidents, etc., but I trust you get the message: the world may change, but evil remains constant.

Factor that into your little analogy, and you'll notice that it just doesn't fit black folk in America.

 

[rhet 2]

No more or less than any other race and/or ethnicity in America.....the varying degrees and explanations can be directly examined by reviewing the specific race and/or ethinicity's history in the USA from the first colonizers/immigrants to present day inhabitants.

Which, of course, presumes that the great-great-great-great-something multiple generations later on are exact clones in attitudes and beliefs as long dead and rotted ancestors.

Sorry

Kids often defy their parents -- and the further removed in time and geography from the ancestors, the more variation there can and often is.

Are the grandkids of Germans living in Germany today also Nazis out to slaughter ever nasty Jew and Romany on the planet? and are all modern-day Italians exactly like the Roman Senatorial and hoi peloi of 2000 years ago?

Cultures change, sometimes very sharply, suddenly and radically -- and sometimes simply through slow cultural shifts.

Including language: Nu schulon herigean is ENGLISH only 1200 years ago -- and Whan is when only 500 years ago --

and I've yet to meet a kid who had the exact same cultural values as his father.

Blacks today are no more like their great-grandparents than Whites today are -- and the assumption that they could be is to shove them into the coffins of the past and deny them their own unique creativity by ignoring intensely personal variations on a theme.

Cultures change far more rapidly than biology evolves.

Let me clarify a few things for you:

Jim Crow laws officially ended about 46 years ago. I'm in my early 50's... so that means the bullshit that started as out and out slavery for my ancestors and maintained for a few centuries finally saw it's last legal vestiges in these United States during my lifetime.

Since then, you've had various State, city and county DA's throughout America prosecute realators for cases of "red lining".....on Long Island, NY there were several noted cases during the late 1980's. I could spend time documenting various cases, incidents, etc., but I trust you get the message: the world may change, but evil remains constant.

Factor that into your little analogy, and you'll notice that it just doesn't fit black folk in America.

Know what?

Blacks have NOT suffered one shred more than every other culture group in the US and Europe.

What, you think what the Irish have suffered was a picnic -- since ROME they've been stepped on and squashed.

And try what the Jews have endured -- going back to ancient Egypt -- and you want me to pity Blacks as the world's greatest and most glorious Sufferers Supreme?

GET REAL

Injustice happens -- and EVERY LAST ONE OF OUR ANCESTORS have been through some sort of hell on earth --

and guess what? women STILL endure the damned Glass Ceiling and they've been hurt for century after century after century of male "mastery" involved every vicious nasty mean thing somebody else could and DID think to do -- including crap in Athens that make Jim Crow look like Mother Theresa.

And we're supposed to celebrate the wonder of Black Superior Sufferers as somehow the Supermen of Human Suffering?

GET REAL

Stop wallowing in self-pity, take control over your own life and DO SOMETHING FOR YOURSELF WITH YOURSELF -- instead of whining and whimpering and "poor pitiful miserable LITTLE ME spoiled brat demands that we PITY YOU instead of RESPECTING YOU.

You want RESPECT? EARN IT -- everybody else does.

You want material luxuries? EARN IT -- everybody else does.

BE EQUAL -- instead of whining and puling and demanding PITY, wallowing around in PITY like a whipped puppy -- EARN RESPECT as a vital and glorious and wonderful person MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD -- some some puking weak little boy hiding behind his ancestors and using the INJUSTICE ALL MEN AND WOMEN HAVE FACED SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL as an excuse to be a taker and user and SELF CREATED loser.

Toss the pity party in the garbage can and learn what SELF RESPECT is all about -- because, buddy, I've got a lot of students -- Blacks and Whites and Hispanics alike -- who have STOOD UP, TAKEN HOLD OF THEIR OWN LIVES, and turned off the pity floods they could drown themselves in to BE MEN not whipped little cur dogs whining and whimpering about how "unfair" life is.

UNFAIR IS REAL AND IT NEVER ENDS -- and 9/10 of the human species have suffered from a hell of a lot of "unfair" in their lives -- and so did their fathers and mothers and great greats back to the year dot when premordial man first crawled out of the sludge to stand on two feet and be a man.

so stop with the hangups over "unfair"

I for one am damned tired of Blacks strutting around and demanding that the world worship their fat butts as the world's SUPERIOR SUFFERING Super Heroes of the World.

Because, buddy, you haven't even started hurting as much as the women trapped in islamic abuse have done for 1400 years and STILL hurt from.


And as long as you're wallowing in filthy self-pity, whimpering and whining, and DEMANDING PITY, you never will be equal -- because you'll NEVER STAND TALL, head in the air, and know the meaning of SELF RESPECT which is destroyed by wallowing in PITY SLUDGE.

GROW UP AND BE A MAN -- and stop demanding that everybody bow down and worship the SUPERMEN OF SUFFERING.

Because Super Men YOU AIN'T -- you're just a man, exactly like every other human being walking down the street with you --

and that's EQUALITY -- neither greater nor weaker, smarter nor more stupid, NOT MORE ABUSED and not less abused, either.

Just ONE INDIVIDUAL PERSON doing the best he can do EXACTLY LIKE EVERY OTHER INDIVIDUAL PERSON on the planet -- dealing with crap and making the most you can out of what good stuff you can find in your path.

ONE PERSON -- not the son of slaves -- A MAN WHO IS UNIQUE TO HIMSELF -- and in that UNIQUENESS the greatest treasure on earth.

And until you learn to see yourself as YOU -- not a damned extension of some jerk you never even knew -- YOURSELF -- not a race, not a gender group -- A PERSON separate from and distinct DIFFERENT than every other PERSON on the planet -- you'll NEVER have the dignity that comes from FREEDOM TO BE ME and tell my ancestors to go **** off because I AM NOT THEM and tell the rest of the world to **** off too -- BECAUSE I AM NOT YOU, EITHER.

Stop looking in a damned mirror and seeing a worthless Black -- and start seeing the TRUTH -- a PERSON as different from those long dead slaves as pharaoh Tutmose II was different from Julius Caesar.

 

[lizzie]

Well said reht 2. If there's one valuable thing I've learned in my own lifetime, it's that if you don't want to suffer, you have to let go of the attitude that's causing it, and you have to find what's loveable and beautiful in yourself. Once you do that (and it's very difficult to do), it sets you free to just be who you are- no apologies, no shame, no regrets. Like me or not, here I am.

 

[Samson]

Well said reht 2. If there's one valuable thing I've learned in my own lifetime, it's that if you don't want to suffer, you have to let go of the attitude that's causing it, and you have to find what's loveable and beautiful in yourself. Once you do that (and it's very difficult to do), it sets you free to just be who you are- no apologies, no shame, no regrets. Like me or not, here I am.

So, what attitude should I get rid of if I'm suffering from an erection that lasts more than 4 hours?

 

[lizzie]

Well said reht 2. If there's one valuable thing I've learned in my own lifetime, it's that if you don't want to suffer, you have to let go of the attitude that's causing it, and you have to find what's loveable and beautiful in yourself. Once you do that (and it's very difficult to do), it sets you free to just be who you are- no apologies, no shame, no regrets. Like me or not, here I am.

So, what attitude should I get rid of if I'm suffering from an erection that lasts more than 4 hours?

Not to worry. The urologist will get rid of that attitude for you pronto.

 

[rhet 2]

Well said reht 2. If there's one valuable thing I've learned in my own lifetime, it's that if you don't want to suffer, you have to let go of the attitude that's causing it, and you have to find what's loveable and beautiful in yourself. Once you do that (and it's very difficult to do), it sets you free to just be who you are- no apologies, no shame, no regrets. Like me or not, here I am.

So, what attitude should I get rid of if I'm suffering from an erection that lasts more than 4 hours?

If that bugs you and makes you feel inferior, toss the damned attitude -- and, if you have to, whack off the source of the damned attitude, too.

NOTHING makes a person inferior except convincing HIMSELF that he IS somehow inferior.

Pay attention to Lizzie. She's dead right on.

Equality is in your own head, NOT in the way other people treat you.

KNOW you're no better and no worse, no stronger and no weaker, no smarter and no more stupid, AND NO MORE A VICTIM than any other person.

Only way to BE EQUAL is to stand up and BE EQUAL -- just one more sucker struggling against icky crap no worse than anybody else sooner or later faces to do the best you can given a lot of crap and only a little bit of possibles to work with -- and WINNING over whatever shit life dumps on your head -- just like every other person on the planet earth.

 

[Samson]

Which, of course, presumes that the great-great-great-great-something multiple generations later on are exact clones in attitudes and beliefs as long dead and rotted ancestors.

Sorry

Kids often defy their parents -- and the further removed in time and geography from the ancestors, the more variation there can and often is.

Are the grandkids of Germans living in Germany today also Nazis out to slaughter ever nasty Jew and Romany on the planet? and are all modern-day Italians exactly like the Roman Senatorial and hoi peloi of 2000 years ago?

Cultures change, sometimes very sharply, suddenly and radically -- and sometimes simply through slow cultural shifts.

Including language: Nu schulon herigean is ENGLISH only 1200 years ago -- and Whan is when only 500 years ago --

and I've yet to meet a kid who had the exact same cultural values as his father.

Blacks today are no more like their great-grandparents than Whites today are -- and the assumption that they could be is to shove them into the coffins of the past and deny them their own unique creativity by ignoring intensely personal variations on a theme.

Cultures change far more rapidly than biology evolves.

Let me clarify a few things for you:

Jim Crow laws officially ended about 46 years ago. I'm in my early 50's... so that means the bullshit that started as out and out slavery for my ancestors and maintained for a few centuries finally saw it's last legal vestiges in these United States during my lifetime.

Since then, you've had various State, city and county DA's throughout America prosecute realators for cases of "red lining".....on Long Island, NY there were several noted cases during the late 1980's. I could spend time documenting various cases, incidents, etc., but I trust you get the message: the world may change, but evil remains constant.

Factor that into your little analogy, and you'll notice that it just doesn't fit black folk in America.

Know what?

Blacks have NOT suffered one shred more than every other culture group in the US and Europe.

What, you think what the Irish have suffered was a picnic -- since ROME they've been stepped on and squashed.

And try what the Jews have endured -- going back to ancient Egypt -- and you want me to pity Blacks as the world's greatest and most glorious Sufferers Supreme?

GET REAL

Injustice happens -- and EVERY LAST ONE OF OUR ANCESTORS have been through some sort of hell on earth --

and guess what? women STILL endure the damned Glass Ceiling and they've been hurt for century after century after century of male "mastery" involved every vicious nasty mean thing somebody else could and DID think to do -- including crap in Athens that make Jim Crow look like Mother Theresa.

And we're supposed to celebrate the wonder of Black Superior Sufferers as somehow the Supermen of Human Suffering?

GET REAL

Stop wallowing in self-pity, take control over your own life and DO SOMETHING FOR YOURSELF WITH YOURSELF -- instead of whining and whimpering and "poor pitiful miserable LITTLE ME spoiled brat demands that we PITY YOU instead of RESPECTING YOU.

You want RESPECT? EARN IT -- everybody else does.

You want material luxuries? EARN IT -- everybody else does.

BE EQUAL -- instead of whining and puling and demanding PITY, wallowing around in PITY like a whipped puppy -- EARN RESPECT as a vital and glorious and wonderful person MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD -- some some puking weak little boy hiding behind his ancestors and using the INJUSTICE ALL MEN AND WOMEN HAVE FACED SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL as an excuse to be a taker and user and SELF CREATED loser.

Toss the pity party in the garbage can and learn what SELF RESPECT is all about -- because, buddy, I've got a lot of students -- Blacks and Whites and Hispanics alike -- who have STOOD UP, TAKEN HOLD OF THEIR OWN LIVES, and turned off the pity floods they could drown themselves in to BE MEN not whipped little cur dogs whining and whimpering about how "unfair" life is.

UNFAIR IS REAL AND IT NEVER ENDS -- and 9/10 of the human species have suffered from a hell of a lot of "unfair" in their lives -- and so did their fathers and mothers and great greats back to the year dot when premordial man first crawled out of the sludge to stand on two feet and be a man.

so stop with the hangups over "unfair"

I for one am damned tired of Blacks strutting around and demanding that the world worship their fat butts as the world's SUPERIOR SUFFERING Super Heroes of the World.

Because, buddy, you haven't even started hurting as much as the women trapped in islamic abuse have done for 1400 years and STILL hurt from.


And as long as you're wallowing in filthy self-pity, whimpering and whining, and DEMANDING PITY, you never will be equal -- because you'll NEVER STAND TALL, head in the air, and know the meaning of SELF RESPECT which is destroyed by wallowing in PITY SLUDGE.

GROW UP AND BE A MAN -- and stop demanding that everybody bow down and worship the SUPERMEN OF SUFFERING.

Because Super Men YOU AIN'T -- you're just a man, exactly like every other human being walking down the street with you --

and that's EQUALITY -- neither greater nor weaker, smarter nor more stupid, NOT MORE ABUSED and not less abused, either.

Just ONE INDIVIDUAL PERSON doing the best he can do EXACTLY LIKE EVERY OTHER INDIVIDUAL PERSON on the planet -- dealing with crap and making the most you can out of what good stuff you can find in your path.

ONE PERSON -- not the son of slaves -- A MAN WHO IS UNIQUE TO HIMSELF -- and in that UNIQUENESS the greatest treasure on earth.

And until you learn to see yourself as YOU -- not a damned extension of some jerk you never even knew -- YOURSELF -- not a race, not a gender group -- A PERSON separate from and distinct DIFFERENT than every other PERSON on the planet -- you'll NEVER have the dignity that comes from FREEDOM TO BE ME and tell my ancestors to go **** off because I AM NOT THEM and tell the rest of the world to **** off too -- BECAUSE I AM NOT YOU, EITHER.

Stop looking in a damned mirror and seeing a worthless Black -- and start seeing the TRUTH -- a PERSON as different from those long dead slaves as pharaoh Tutmose II was different from Julius Caesar.

 

[MarcATL]

rhet...what pity party?

Your little rhetoric schpiel was all nice and good, but noone was saying or suggesting otherwise.

Why do you feel compelled to state that?

I find it to be a racist attitude that sees pointing out injustices as someone "complaining" and/or "feeling inferior."

What gives?

 

[Samson]

rhet...what pity party?

This:

I trust you get the message: the world may change, but evil remains constant.

Factor that into your little analogy, and you'll notice that it just doesn't fit black folk in America.