So, are you denying that CO2 and other gases absorb energy? Are you denying that they've gone up in the last 200 years? What happens if the trend continues? You may delight your cronies with "religion" talk, but that's all it is, talk. It isn't an argument, just distraction from the real issues you're so desperately trying to avoid.
Right back at ya konrad, do you deny that the Earth was warmer during the Medieval Warming Period? Do you deny that the Earth was warmer during the Roman Warming Period, Do you deny that the Vostock Ice Cores show an 800 year lag from the time warming begins to the time the CO2 levels rise? Do you deny that the Earth enjoys long climate cycles (lasting THOUSANDS of years)?
Answer those questions first little one. I attempt nothing. I merely point out the extraordinary limitations of your failed religion.
Well, these people deny that twaddle. And they are far more respected as scientists than you will ever be.
temperature variations over the past two millennia
Michael E. Mann*,†, Zhihua Zhang*, Malcolm K. Hughes‡, Raymond S. Bradley§, Sonya K. Miller*, Scott Rutherford¶, and Fenbiao Ni‡
+ Author Affiliations
*Department of Meteorology and Earth and Environmental Systems Institute, Pennsylvania State University, University Park, PA 16802;
‡Laboratory of Tree-Ring Research, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ 85721;
§Department of Geosciences, University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003-9298; and
¶Department of Environmental Science, Roger Williams University, Bristol, RI 02809
Communicated by Lonnie G. Thompson, Ohio State University, Columbus, OH, June 26, 2008 (received for review November 20, 2007)
Abstract
Following the suggestions of a recent National Research Council report [NRC (National Research Council) (2006) Surface Temperature Reconstructions for the Last 2,000 Years (Natl Acad Press, Washington, DC).], we reconstruct surface temperature at hemispheric and global scale for much of the last 2,000 years using a greatly expanded set of proxy data for decadal-to-centennial climate changes, recently updated instrumental data, and complementary methods that have been thoroughly tested and validated with model simulation experiments. Our results extend previous conclusions that recent Northern Hemisphere surface temperature increases are likely anomalous in a long-term context. Recent warmth appears anomalous for at least the past 1,300 years whether or not tree-ring data are used. If tree-ring data are used, the conclusion can be extended to at least the past 1,700 years, but with additional strong caveats.
The reconstructed amplitude of change over past centuries is greater than hitherto reported, with somewhat greater Medieval warmth in the Northern Hemisphere, albeit still not reaching recent levels.
As for the Roman Period, the proxy data is simply not accurate enough at present for that period to definitively state the comparison one way or the other.
As for the rest of your silliness, you still deny that the GHGs are having a major effect on the climate, in spite of the fact that the vast majority of scientists state the affirmative on that issue.