Archaeologist rebuts Jewish claims about their alleged temple

[Jos]

OCCUPIED JERUSALEM, (PIC)– Palestinian archaeologist Jamal Amro declared he made a discovery of 17 ancient coins that vindicated further the false story and belief of Jews about their alleged temple in occupied Jerusalem.

The coins date back to 16 AD, which means they were minted 20 years after the death of Herod the Great whom the Jews allege he built the second temple, Amro added.

He demonstrated his finding on Monday in a news conference held by the Islamic-Christian commission for the support of Jerusalem and the popular national congress of Jerusalem in Ramallah city.

The archaeologist told the attendees that these coins were found under Al-Buraq wall (wailing wall) which is claimed to be the western wall of the alleged Jewish temple.

He added this discovery confirmed that the building of the wall happened after Herod in the era of Roman ruler Valerius Gratus.

He also stated this discovery left the Jewish archaeologists in a state of shock and frustration because it just proved further their false claims and beliefs about the legend of the temple.

Archaeologist rebuts Jewish claims about their alleged temple | Occupied Palestine |

 

[JStone]

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The galleries showcase artifacts that illustrate the power of these ancient civilizations, including sculptural representations of tributes demanded by kings of ancient Assyria, and some sources of continual fascination, such as a fragment of the Dead Sea Scrolls--one of the few examples in the United States.

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"Ancient Land Law: Mesopotamia, Egypt, Israel" by Robert C. Ellickson and Charles DiA. Thorland

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Yale University Press: The Archaeology of Ancient Israel

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PBS Nova ...

In the banks of the Nile in southern Egypt in 1896, British archaeologisit Flinders Petrie unearthed one of the most important discoveries in biblical archaeology known as the Merneptah Stele. Merneptah's stele announces the entrance on the world stage of a People named Israel.

The Merneptah Stele is powerful evidence that a People called the Israelites are living in Canaan over 3000 years ago

Dr. Donald Redford, Egyptologist and archaeologist: The Merneptah Stele is priceless evidence for the presence of an ethnical group called Israel in Canaan.

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[JStone]

Palestinian archaeologist Jamal Amro

Former PLO Leader Zuheir Mohsen

The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.
Zuheir Mohsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Shaykh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi, Italian Muslim Assembly

I believe that "Palestinian identity" is something completely artificial: it was forged as a propagandistic tool against Israel. The strange fact is that, at least here in Europe, I have never heard an Arab from the Land of Israel ("Palestine") say: "I am Palestinian."

Please remember that the so-called hero of "Palestinian independence," the pro-Nazi Grand Mufti of British Mandate Palestine, Haj Amin al-Husseini, never claimed that "Palestinians" are to be an independent people: all of his official declarations state that "Palestine must be recognized as a integral part of Syria."
ISRAEL SHOULD DECLARE OSLO NULL AND VOID (Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi August, 1998

Guy Milliere, Eminent Professor of History and Political Science, University of Paris

No one had heard of a Palestinian people before the mid-1960s. They did not exist. Israel under the British Mandate until Israel' s Independence in 1948 was called Palestine. All Jews who were born there until i948 had the word « Palestine » stamped on their passports. The current Palestinians are those Arabs who, for a variety of reasons, decided to leave the land during the 1947 War of Independence, when five countries--Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq--attacked the 600,000 people in the fledgling state of Israel the day after its birth, hoping to kill it in the crib.
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[Jos]

But no rebuttal of the OP?

 

[Baruch Menachem]

There are contemporary reports of the thing from 2000 years ago. The rocks stand there in testimony themselves.

A bunch of coins don't trump Josephus or the other contemporary witnesses. They just show that some guy was desperate to fake stuff up.

 

[JStone]

PBS Nova: Solomon's Temple

NOVA | The Bible's Buried Secrets | Watch the Program | PBS

 

[Dot Com]

hasbara boy (JStone) is up to his cut 'n pasting again.

 

[JStone]

hasbara boy (JStone) is up to his cut 'n pasting again.

Take your anti-psychotic mental illness medication like the nice nurse asked you to do.

PBS Nova: Solomon's Temple: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3516_10.html

 

[Jos]

internet haganah LOL

 

[JStone]

Jesus Christ was a muslime palesteenian martyr

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We’re talking about an ongoing chain [of prophets of the Islam], from Adam to Muhammad. It’s an ongoing chain, representing the call for monotheism, and the mission of Islam… The prophets were all of the same religion [Islam]… Jesus was born in this land. He lived in this land. It is known that he was born in Bethlehem… He also lived in Nazereth, moved to Jerusalem. So he was a Palestinian par excellence…We respect Jesus, we believe in him [as a Muslim prophet], just as we believe in the prophet Muhammad.

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[ForeverYoung436]

OCCUPIED JERUSALEM, (PIC)– Palestinian archaeologist Jamal Amro declared he made a discovery of 17 ancient coins that vindicated further the false story and belief of Jews about their alleged temple in occupied Jerusalem.

The coins date back to 16 AD, which means they were minted 20 years after the death of Herod the Great whom the Jews allege he built the second temple, Amro added.

He demonstrated his finding on Monday in a news conference held by the Islamic-Christian commission for the support of Jerusalem and the popular national congress of Jerusalem in Ramallah city.

The archaeologist told the attendees that these coins were found under Al-Buraq wall (wailing wall) which is claimed to be the western wall of the alleged Jewish temple.

He added this discovery confirmed that the building of the wall happened after Herod in the era of Roman ruler Valerius Gratus.

He also stated this discovery left the Jewish archaeologists in a state of shock and frustration because it just proved further their false claims and beliefs about the legend of the temple.

Archaeologist rebuts Jewish claims about their alleged temple | Occupied Palestine |

Palestinians are quite desperate, aren't they? The article itself wasn't very clear, but what exactly are they disputing? First of all, Herod didn't build the Second Temple, he just enlarged it. Your god, Jesus himself, was present in the Second Temple. Jews have a long history in Israel, whether Palestinans like it or not.

 

[JStone]

OCCUPIED JERUSALEM, (PIC)– Palestinian archaeologist Jamal Amro declared he made a discovery of 17 ancient coins that vindicated further the false story and belief of Jews about their alleged temple in occupied Jerusalem.

The coins date back to 16 AD, which means they were minted 20 years after the death of Herod the Great whom the Jews allege he built the second temple, Amro added.

He demonstrated his finding on Monday in a news conference held by the Islamic-Christian commission for the support of Jerusalem and the popular national congress of Jerusalem in Ramallah city.

The archaeologist told the attendees that these coins were found under Al-Buraq wall (wailing wall) which is claimed to be the western wall of the alleged Jewish temple.

He added this discovery confirmed that the building of the wall happened after Herod in the era of Roman ruler Valerius Gratus.

He also stated this discovery left the Jewish archaeologists in a state of shock and frustration because it just proved further their false claims and beliefs about the legend of the temple.

Archaeologist rebuts Jewish claims about their alleged temple | Occupied Palestine |

Palestinians are quite desperate, aren't they? The article itself wasn't very clear, but what exactly are the disputing? First of all, Herod didn't build the Second Temple, he just enlarged it. Your god, Jesus himself, was present in the Second Temple. Jews have a long history in Israel, whether Palestinans like it or not.

Palestinians are re-branded Arabs who began calling themselves "Palestinians" in the 1960s. Jews were Palestinians under the British Mandate.

So-called Palestinians and Arabs and muslimes are uniquely ignorant and don't have high regard for Jesus although they think he was a muslime, as reflected in this cartoon mocking Jesus. Note the Arab sand rats laughing at Jesus's crucifixion

 

[JStone]

OCCUPIED JERUSALEM

Eminent Historian Sir Martin Gilbert, Author of 10 Books on Jewish and Middle East History and 3 Books on Jerusalem ...

Jerusalem became the capital of the first Jewish kingdom in 1004 BC, over 3000 years ago. With the brief exception of the Crusader period, no other°:Jewish ruling power of Jerusalem made the city a capital but it was consistently a capital for the Jews. Driven into partial exile by Nebuchadnezzar in 586 BC, the Jews returned fifty years later and rebuilt Jerusalem as their capital. It was their capital, too, under the Maccabees. The unity of the city achieved in 1967, then, was more than a quirk of military geography. It was the fulfillment of unbroken historical longings.

Tel Dan Stele Verifying King David Dynasty established in Jerusalem 3000 years ago
The Tel Dan Stela and the Kings of Aram and Israel

The nation of Israel was in conflict with the Arameans for about 300 years, from the time of David, ca. 1000 BC, until Assyria annexed the Aramean city-states at the end of the eighth century BC. Most of the conflict was with the city-state of Damascus that, under Hazael, dominated Israel in the second half of the ninth century. A recently discovered inscription, the Tel Dan Stela, takes us back to those days.

The largest fragment of the Tel Dan Stela, Fragment A, was discovered at Tel Dan in northern Israel in July 1993 (Biran and Naveh 1993; Wood 1993). Then, in June 1994, two additional joining fragments, labeled Fragment B, were found (Biran and Naveh 1995). Together, Fragments A and B represent only a fraction of a much longer inscription. The language is Aramaic and it celebrates the victory of a king of Aram over Israel and Judah. It is the first royal inscription to be found in Israel.

The most stunning aspect of the document is the reference to Judah as the “House of David.” For the first time, it was thought, the name David appeared in an extra-Biblical document. At about the same time, however, two French scholars, André Lemaire (1994) and Émile Puech (1994), independently recognized the same phrase in the Mesha Inscription, which has been around for well over 100 years (Wood 1995). It now likely that the name David is in a third inscription. Egyptologist K.A. Kitchen believes that the phrase “highland of David” appears in the Shishak inscription in the Temple of Amun at Karnak, Egypt (1997: 39–41). All this at a time when a number of scholars were challenging the existence of the United Monarchy and a king name David.

 

[jillian]

There are contemporary reports of the thing from 2000 years ago. The rocks stand there in testimony themselves.

A bunch of coins don't trump Josephus or the other contemporary witnesses. They just show that some guy was desperate to fake stuff up.

you mean a palestinian "archeologist" lied?

i'm shocked... shocked, i tell ya

hint: anything that is datelined "occupied jerusalem" isn't worth the bandwidth it's taking up.

 

[JStone]

There are contemporary reports of the thing from 2000 years ago. The rocks stand there in testimony themselves.

A bunch of coins don't trump Josephus or the other contemporary witnesses. They just show that some guy was desperate to fake stuff up.

you mean a palestinian "archeologist" lied?

i'm shocked... shocked, i tell ya

hint: anything that is datelined "occupied jerusalem" isn't worth the bandwidth it's taking up.

You mean, you never heard of the great "Palesteenian" King Salem of "Palestine"?

Historian Sir Martin Gilbert, Author of 10 Books on Jewish and Middle East History and 3 Books on History of Jerusalem...

On August 18 Yasir Arafat, speaking as head of the Palestinian National Authority in Gaza and Jericho, told Arab youngsters at a summer camp, "Those of you who lit the intifada fire must now act as defenders of this young state, whose capital is Jerusalem. It is Bir Salem [the fountain of Salem]. Salem was one of the Canaanite Kings, one of our forefathers. This city is the capital of our children and our children's children. If not for this belief and conviction of the Palestinian nation, this people would have been erased from the face of the earth, as were so many other nations."

King Salem is a newcomer on the historical scene. No such Canaanite, Jebusite or Philistine king is known to history

 

[ABikerSailor]

I'm sorry, but the Temple Mount and the Wailing Wall is MUCH older than the Dome of the Rock.

Nope, Israel and the Temple Mount should belong to the Jews.

Personally? Even though I'm not Jewish, I personally believe the Dome of the Rock should be torn down and the Temple rebuilt.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

OCCUPIED JERUSALEM, (PIC)– Palestinian archaeologist Jamal Amro declared he made a discovery of 17 ancient coins that vindicated further the false story and belief of Jews about their alleged temple in occupied Jerusalem.

The coins date back to 16 AD, which means they were minted 20 years after the death of Herod the Great whom the Jews allege he built the second temple, Amro added.

He demonstrated his finding on Monday in a news conference held by the Islamic-Christian commission for the support of Jerusalem and the popular national congress of Jerusalem in Ramallah city.

The archaeologist told the attendees that these coins were found under Al-Buraq wall (wailing wall) which is claimed to be the western wall of the alleged Jewish temple.

He added this discovery confirmed that the building of the wall happened after Herod in the era of Roman ruler Valerius Gratus.

He also stated this discovery left the Jewish archaeologists in a state of shock and frustration because it just proved further their false claims and beliefs about the legend of the temple.

Archaeologist rebuts Jewish claims about their alleged temple | Occupied Palestine |

"Palestinian archaeologist Jamal Amro"

What's a "Palestinian"?

 

[JStone]

I'm sorry, but the Temple Mount and the Wailing Wall is MUCH older than the Dome of the Rock.

Nope, Israel and the Temple Mount should belong to the Jews.

Personally? Even though I'm not Jewish, I personally believe the Dome of the Rock should be torn down and the Temple rebuilt.

Look at the great respect the slaves of allah show the dome of the rock and Jerusalem, pointing their hairy asses at them while facing mecca

 

[alexa]

OCCUPIED JERUSALEM, (PIC)– Palestinian archaeologist Jamal Amro declared he made a discovery of 17 ancient coins that vindicated further the false story and belief of Jews about their alleged temple in occupied Jerusalem.

The coins date back to 16 AD, which means they were minted 20 years after the death of Herod the Great whom the Jews allege he built the second temple, Amro added.

He demonstrated his finding on Monday in a news conference held by the Islamic-Christian commission for the support of Jerusalem and the popular national congress of Jerusalem in Ramallah city.

The archaeologist told the attendees that these coins were found under Al-Buraq wall (wailing wall) which is claimed to be the western wall of the alleged Jewish temple.

He added this discovery confirmed that the building of the wall happened after Herod in the era of Roman ruler Valerius Gratus.

He also stated this discovery left the Jewish archaeologists in a state of shock and frustration because it just proved further their false claims and beliefs about the legend of the temple.

Archaeologist rebuts Jewish claims about their alleged temple | Occupied Palestine |

BBC2 did a series called The Bible's Buried Secrets earlier this year. Their archaeology did not support the Bible. Archaeology rather shows that at the time of King David 1000BC settlement was meagre. No way like enough people to have any kind of an army for nation building. Maybe about 20 small villages of shepherds and stock raisers tied together by family and clan. Judah apparently had no power base and the Biblical projects attributed to Solomon never took place. That apparently has been accepted in scholarly circles since the 1990's So I would imagine that is saying Solomon built no temple.

In 2010 Khirbet Qeiyafa Fortified walled town found west of Judha, just beneath the surface. It was dated to the time of King David but Prof Israel Finkelstein Tel Aviv University says that is wrong and it is the 9th Century not tenth.

I was hoping to be able to put in a link for the whole episode but they haven't left it up. However there is a clip to give you an idea.

BBC Two - Bible's Buried Secrets, Did King David's Empire Exist?, Bible's Buried Secrets - Did King David's Empire Exist?

 

[JStone]

OCCUPIED JERUSALEM, (PIC)– Palestinian archaeologist Jamal Amro declared he made a discovery of 17 ancient coins that vindicated further the false story and belief of Jews about their alleged temple in occupied Jerusalem.

The coins date back to 16 AD, which means they were minted 20 years after the death of Herod the Great whom the Jews allege he built the second temple, Amro added.

He demonstrated his finding on Monday in a news conference held by the Islamic-Christian commission for the support of Jerusalem and the popular national congress of Jerusalem in Ramallah city.

The archaeologist told the attendees that these coins were found under Al-Buraq wall (wailing wall) which is claimed to be the western wall of the alleged Jewish temple.

He added this discovery confirmed that the building of the wall happened after Herod in the era of Roman ruler Valerius Gratus.

He also stated this discovery left the Jewish archaeologists in a state of shock and frustration because it just proved further their false claims and beliefs about the legend of the temple.

Archaeologist rebuts Jewish claims about their alleged temple | Occupied Palestine |

BBC2 did a series called The Bible's Buried Secrets earlier this year. Their archaeology did not support the Bible. Archaeology rather shows that at the time of King David 1000BC settlement was meagre. No way like enough people to have any kind of an army for nation building. Maybe about 20 small villages of shepherds and stock raisers tied together by family and clan. Judah apparently had no power base and the Biblical projects attributed to Solomon never took place. That apparently has been accepted in scholarly circles since the 1990's So I would imagine that is saying Solomon built no temple.

In 2010 Khirbet Qeiyafa Fortified walled town found west of Judha, just beneath the surface. It was dated to the time of King David but Prof Israel Finkelstein Tel Aviv University says that is wrong and it is the 9th Century not tenth.

I was hoping to be able to put in a link for the whole episode but they haven't left it up. However there is a clip to give you an idea.

BBC Two - Bible's Buried Secrets, Did King David's Empire Exist?, Bible's Buried Secrets - Did King David's Empire Exist?

Take your mental illness medication like the nice nurse asked you to do

King David's existence is verified by the Tel Dan Stele http://www.biblearchaeology.org/pos...n-Stela-and-the-Kings-of-Aram-and-Israel.aspx