AP: Trump says he won’t negotiate to end the shutdown

[j-mac]

Looks like a list of dead bills.

They’re appropriations bills, going through the process. Are you against that? And are you ready to say I was right, and they are trying to get to regular order?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Looks like the Thune has put together a modified CR for vote tomorrow. SOUnds more promising.

https://thehill.com/homenews/5593949-senate-vote-shutdown-thune/

 

[Seymour Flops]

They are asking for a meeting during which proposals can be negotiated. trump is saying capitulate, then we'll talk.

Almost right which is rare for you. They also offered not just negotiations, but a vote on extending the Temporary COVID Subdidies.

Democrats don't want to vote. They want a guaranteed outcome in exchange for releasing the hostages. Not just the ACA subsidies, that is a red herring. Their key goal is healthcare for illegal aliens who were granted legal status. They want those voters to stay and be dependent on Democrat largesse.

That's why they spent four years bringing in illegal aliens and granting them legal status.

What a coincidence that an obstinate clown is prez while a record is set for the length of a shutdown.

What reason is there for Dem's to believe there will be an honest negotiation with the orange messiah after the government re-opens?

What do you mean by honest negotiations? The Republicans were elected, because their voters want them to behave like Republicans. That does not include for free healthcare for illegal aliens, which was the goal expressed by all democrat candidates in 2020.

The republicans do not have to demonstrate "honesty" by giving in to that demand.

Right now democrats don't really have a lot of cards to play. They have the filibuster and . . . that's pretty much it.

 

[Eman623]

I don’t have any idea what you mean.

Dems put forth their position a long time ago. There’s been no attempt to solve this problem by Republican leadership.

And I use that term leadership loosely. They aren’t acting like leaders.

Reps put forth their position too. There's been no attempt to solve this problem by Dem "leadership".

 

[Eman623]

Dems are trying to do something. That’s what this is all about.

Reps are trying to keep the government open. That's what this is all about.

 

[Eman623]

Imagine all that negotiation that could have been done by now.

And what do Republicans want?

Imagine all the negotiations that could have been done by now if the Dems had just voted for the CR a month ago.

 

[Eman623]

There is no federal budget and there’s no reason not to bring it up now.

There's no reason not to vote for a clear CR and bring it up after that.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I doubt that chucky ever expected the shutdown to drag out this long.

He expected that Democrat senators with more balls than he or at least more afraid of their own voters than of AOC, would have crossed over and voted for the clean CR.

Then they - not Chuck - would be in the doghouse with Alexandria.

What he did not understand is that every Senate Democrat with even one gonad, already voted for the clean CR, on the first ballot, if i'm not mistaken.

With the victory of radicalism in New York and in Virginia, they will be even more afraid of the far left wing of their party.

With the exception of that small faction of MTG Republicans, GOP voters will suffer far less than Democrat voters as the shutdown goes on. Federal employees
and welfare dependents overwhelming vote Democrat.

They are about to have a lean and mean Thanksgiving. And then an even more lean Christmas.

Hopefully, they will have some Republican relatives who will invite them for a meal.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Democrats will not negotiate benefits to invaders paid for by Americans.

 

[Eman623]

Dems are looking to negotiate, but there's no Republican leadership willing to do that.

Pass the CR and the Dems can negotiate until the cows come home.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The GOP decided to fund tax cuts for rich peole by deleting people's health insurance.

You're either not fine with that, or you're an embarrassing bootlicker grabbing your ankles for rich peole who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

 

[Darkwind]

Then why is trump saying "I won't be extorted" by Democrats?
Obviously he thinks he's involved.

Because they are threatening to continue the shutdown UNLESS he gets involved.

HIs response is the correct one.

 

[Rawley]

There’s been no attempt to solve this problem by Republican leadership.

This "problem" is 100% Democrat leadership's making and it's their responsibility to solve it.

 

[Marener]

They’re appropriations bills, going through the process. Are you against that? And are you ready to say I was right, and they are trying to get to regular order?

They haven’t been touched in 5 months.

There’s no process. They’re dead.

 

[j-mac]

They haven’t been touched in 5 months.

There’s no process. They’re dead.

Open the government so we can get back to it...

 

[j-mac]

Looks like the Thune has put together a modified CR for vote tomorrow. SOUnds more promising.

https://thehill.com/homenews/5593949-senate-vote-shutdown-thune/

Got a side eye on Thune, but they say he has 8 dems, they only need two more....

 

[Marener]

Open the government so we can get back to it...

The Republican Party slogan should be “I’ll do it tomorrow”.

When are you going to learn? If they were going to do it, it’d be done by now.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

I don’t have any idea what you mean.

Dems put forth their position a long time ago. There’s been no attempt to solve this problem by Republican leadership.

And I use that term leadership loosely. They aren’t acting like leaders.

They say that increasing premiums by hundreds of dollars is fine because “clean CR”

Just where did I pretend it "was a one year"?
If you can't produce that, you're just a two bit liar.
Which you are.

We are discussing appreciations for one foosball year, and you throw in a $1.5 trillion amount from a right wing thing tank without stating it is a 10 year estimate. You know very well that conservative idiots in this board would automatically assume it’s for one year. That was your intention: To mislead.

It was also your intention not to tell people that your estimate came from A right wing think tank. When people hear estimates they assume it came from the CBO first because that the only legit entity that gives you unbiased estimates. You knew that. And you thought you were slick.

Unfortunately, I was around to catch you. And I caught you.

 

[Seymour Flops]

They don't know what they want, they just hope it will somehow be humiliating for Trump and Republicans.

That is a far more important consideration for them than food or healthcare for their base.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They don't know what they want, they just hope it will somehow be humiliating for Trump and Republicans.

Haha, yeah, this is the ceiling of the MAGA intellect. That's cultism for ya!