Anybody Think Trump loses 2020?

[Sun Devil 92]

I can't know the future, and neither can anybody else. It sure looks likely that Trump has 2020 locked down though, but I could be wrong. Does anybody believe Trump will lose 2020?

Trump is going to lose.

Want to bet ?

He loses, I'll leave the board.

He wins, You leave and never come back.

 

[IM2]

I can't know the future, and neither can anybody else. It sure looks likely that Trump has 2020 locked down though, but I could be wrong. Does anybody believe Trump will lose 2020?

Trump is going to lose.

Want to bet ?

He loses, I'll leave the board.

He wins, You leave and never come back.

He's going to lose and I am not going anywhere nor do I give a fuck what you do. You guys live in this delusion of grandeur whereby you ignore that trump is fucking up every day. Has now fired a man for doing his legal job of reporting high level intelligence to the appropriate house chair because he reported that Russia is once again trying to help trump win an election to the democratic chair of the intelligence committee. Sane people aren't going to want 4 more years of a man who thinks he can expand his power to totalitarian levels.

 

[Osiris-ODS]

I can't know the future, and neither can anybody else. It sure looks likely that Trump has 2020 locked down though, but I could be wrong. Does anybody believe Trump will lose 2020?

Trump is going to lose.

Don't sweat the late arrival to the thread. I covered for you and some of your buds a little earlier, figured you guys were too busy watching the Trump rally to respond, and I didn't want anyone to mistakenly believe from your silence that you had climbed aboard the Trump train. At least I was relatively sure that's not what you'd want people to think, so you can imagine our collective relief upon seeing your post.

 

[SavannahMann]

The only threat is sanders if he can mobilize the youth vote I doubt he can be stopped.

We heard the same thing in 2016 about Hillary. First assume it is a coin toss. Then look at issues. That is where Bernie falls down. I give a slight. A very slight advantage to Trump. Yes he is an ass. But he is running against an avowed Socialist. Venezuela, Cuba, and China are in the news a lot and figure even more in the coming months. The Chinese response to the WuFlu is not going to help.

 

[SavannahMann]

I can't know the future, and neither can anybody else. It sure looks likely that Trump has 2020 locked down though, but I could be wrong. Does anybody believe Trump will lose 2020?

Trump is going to lose.

Want to bet ?

He loses, I'll leave the board.

He wins, You leave and never come back.

He's going to lose and I am not going anywhere nor do I give a fuck what you do. You guys live in this delusion of grandeur whereby you ignore that trump is fucking up every day. Has now fired a man for doing his legal job of reporting high level intelligence to the appropriate house chair because he reported that Russia is once again trying to help trump win an election to the democratic chair of the intelligence committee. Sane people aren't going to want 4 more years of a man who thinks he can expand his power to totalitarian levels.

Odd. The warnings of Totalitarian Trump don’t seem to be producing much. No Jack Booted Gestapo. Not much of anything.

 

[XponentialChaos]

I can't know the future, and neither can anybody else. It sure looks likely that Trump has 2020 locked down though, but I could be wrong. Does anybody believe Trump will lose 2020?

"Locked down"

I hardly think it's locked down for either side. I honestly don't understand why so many conservatives around here insist on taking a victory lap before the election. Spare me your "I know Trump is gonna win because Democrats are so dum LOL" responses.

Look at how close the last election was. Trump won Michigan by 0.23%, Wisconsin by 0.77%, and Pennsylvania by 0.72%. Three states with a history of going blue for the last several elections, but barely swung red in 2016 and ultimately decided the outcome of the election. Consider the James Comey investigation on Hillary Clinton just prior to the last election which also likely impacted those numbers.

I'm just bringing this up to describe the obvious truth that we don't know. Anyone who claims otherwise is just a mindless cheerleader idiot as far as I'm concerned.

With that said, my honest prediction is that I think this is going to be very close. At this point, I'll give a slight edge to the Democrats but a lot can happen between now and November. Here are some of my thoughts:

- I think Trump's approval is growing now that the impeachment thing is behind him.

- I think the strong economy is the single best thing he can bank on.

- I think the Democrat nominee, whoever it is, will be better than what we had last time.

- Democrat vote totals in the last two presidential elections have declined, but I expect the vote total to increase this time because of how much they hate Trump.

- Democrats saw a 70% vote increase in the House for the 2018 election, which FAR surpasses any midterm election increase they've had in at least the last several decades. Again, I think this was because of how much they hate Trump.

- In 2018, we also saw a surge in Republican votes with a 27% vote increase in the House. Not nearly as much as the increase for the Democrats, but still a very big gain.

- I think both sides will be fired up to show up at the polls. Trump is a very polarizing figure and we all know how divided the country is.

- I think it will come down to Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. All three of those traditionally blue states, which Trump won by less than 1%, swung back to the Democrats in 2018 by at least 8% last time I checked the numbers.

With all that in mind, I give the Democrats a slight edge at this point. But there are plenty of things they can mess up between now and then. Meanwhile Trump's support isn't declining either.

My $0.02.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I can't know the future, and neither can anybody else. It sure looks likely that Trump has 2020 locked down though, but I could be wrong. Does anybody believe Trump will lose 2020?

Trump is going to lose.

Want to bet ?

He loses, I'll leave the board.

He wins, You leave and never come back.

He's going to lose and I am not going anywhere nor do I give a fuck what you do. You guys live in this delusion of grandeur whereby you ignore that trump is fucking up every day. Has now fired a man for doing his legal job of reporting high level intelligence to the appropriate house chair because he reported that Russia is once again trying to help trump win an election to the democratic chair of the intelligence committee. Sane people aren't going to want 4 more years of a man who thinks he can expand his power to totalitarian levels.

Here is what I took from your rant:

1. You want to still make the claim, but you won't get behind it. Real clear.
2. Russia decides to do what we've always done...and it is Trump's fault.
3. You have no idea what sane means.

O.K. Mr. Noballs,

Thanks for letting us know that you were the kid who challenged people to fight while hiding under his mother's skirt.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I can't know the future, and neither can anybody else. It sure looks likely that Trump has 2020 locked down though, but I could be wrong. Does anybody believe Trump will lose 2020?

Trump is going to lose.

Want to bet ?

He loses, I'll leave the board.

He wins, You leave and never come back.

He's going to lose and I am not going anywhere nor do I give a fuck what you do. You guys live in this delusion of grandeur whereby you ignore that trump is fucking up every day. Has now fired a man for doing his legal job of reporting high level intelligence to the appropriate house chair because he reported that Russia is once again trying to help trump win an election to the democratic chair of the intelligence committee. Sane people aren't going to want 4 more years of a man who thinks he can expand his power to totalitarian levels.

Odd. The warnings of Totalitarian Trump don’t seem to be producing much. No Jack Booted Gestapo. Not much of anything.

No WWIII

No Stock Market Crash

Talking of bringing school prayer back

Good race relations (hasn't called a policeman stupid yet).

 

[WinterBorn]

He's already packing.

Most righties pack, it's a 2nd amendment thing.

Actually no, they don't. That's a myth.

Wanna find out?

You planning to frisk "most righties"?

 

[Mac1958]

Unless the economy somehow immediately tanks -- and there is probably too much underlying strength at the moment, so it would require a pretty violent reversal -- it's tough to see Trump losing. Especially if Bernie's in there.

Most of the public aren't aware of the "socialist" policies that have been so helpful to the economy.
.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Absolutely trump can lose. I've stated several times here that I wish the right wasnt so boastful and sure headed about him winning. They underestimate the ire and mobilization of the left.

Does anyone not see how the left are really good at holding protests and other events? They are very good at spreading their message and their continuing efforts could have enough impact to both activate parts of their base who may not have thought of voting as well as to implement the "blue no matter who" mindset, where in times past, if one of their candidates didnt win, they just wouldnt vote at all.

I listen to left wing and right wing radio daily, and one thing I've noticed is the left are always talking about voter registration drives, and the need to remove trump at all costs. The right? Well, they talk a lot about freedom, liberty, and the constitution, but they are not so good at impressing upon their listeners the need to go out and vote.

The right needs to be careful, and not take for granted that trump will win, or they might just find that he will not be there for another 4 years.

 

[Jitss617]

He's already packing.

Most righties pack, it's a 2nd amendment thing.

Actually no, they don't. That's a myth.

Wanna find out?

Do you mean by voting against Rump? We are already anticipating that. Just remember, we outgun you fruitcakes.

Yes in California lol

 

[Jitss617]

He's already packing.

Most righties pack, it's a 2nd amendment thing.

Actually no, they don't. That's a myth.

Wanna find out?

You planning to frisk "most righties"?

Huh

 

[SavannahMann]

I can't know the future, and neither can anybody else. It sure looks likely that Trump has 2020 locked down though, but I could be wrong. Does anybody believe Trump will lose 2020?

Trump is going to lose.

Want to bet ?

He loses, I'll leave the board.

He wins, You leave and never come back.

He's going to lose and I am not going anywhere nor do I give a fuck what you do. You guys live in this delusion of grandeur whereby you ignore that trump is fucking up every day. Has now fired a man for doing his legal job of reporting high level intelligence to the appropriate house chair because he reported that Russia is once again trying to help trump win an election to the democratic chair of the intelligence committee. Sane people aren't going to want 4 more years of a man who thinks he can expand his power to totalitarian levels.

Odd. The warnings of Totalitarian Trump don’t seem to be producing much. No Jack Booted Gestapo. Not much of anything.

No WWIII

No Stock Market Crash

Talking of bringing school prayer back

Good race relations (hasn't called a policeman stupid yet).

Well. In all honesty he should have called a few of them stupid.

 

[Porthos]

I can't know the future, and neither can anybody else. It sure looks likely that Trump has 2020 locked down though, but I could be wrong. Does anybody believe Trump will lose 2020?

Unless the democrats cheat, and that's a highly likely scenario, or something terrible comes to pass that actually interferes with or stops the presidential election process, then yes—Donald Trump is almost certain to win a second term. However, in the very unlikely outcome of a Bernie or Bloomberg or Butt-Zealot victory, we'll instantly know it was not a result of the will of the American People or their votes. There's just no way, come hell or come high water, America at large is blind enough to commit mass suicide by voting to elect one of the 2020 democrat presidential candidates. Jumping off a very high and windy cliff just after winning the mega millions makes more sense.

So you're saying you got your "three million (adjust number accordingly) illegals" ready to fling again huh.

Good luck wit dat.

Only if the r

I can't know the future, and neither can anybody else. It sure looks likely that Trump has 2020 locked down though, but I could be wrong. Does anybody believe Trump will lose 2020?

Only if the Russians. Stop their efforts to get him elected. Then the impeached fool will lose.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

There’s a chance.

I give him a 2 out of 3 chance of winning. But then again I thought Hillary had it wrapped up

You thought? First time for everything.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I can't know the future, and neither can anybody else. It sure looks likely that Trump has 2020 locked down though, but I could be wrong. Does anybody believe Trump will lose 2020?

Unless the democrats cheat, and that's a highly likely scenario, or something terrible comes to pass that actually interferes with or stops the presidential election process, then yes—Donald Trump is almost certain to win a second term. However, in the very unlikely outcome of a Bernie or Bloomberg or Butt-Zealot victory, we'll instantly know it was not a result of the will of the American People or their votes. There's just no way, come hell or come high water, America at large is blind enough to commit mass suicide by voting to elect one of the 2020 democrat presidential candidates. Jumping off a very high and windy cliff just after winning the mega millions makes more sense.

I can see you are getting your ducks in line to call Fowl. Let's see, if Rump doesn't win, it's fixed, it's cheats, etc.. Will he refuse to leave the White House? Will he try and do another fake investigation even after the new PResident is sworn in? Will you grab yer shootin' irons and head to Washington to protect him? I can't wait to see how this plays out.

Trump wins - and wins bigly. That's how it turns out.

If America Wins, Rump gets indicted by at least 3 States and a couple or three Federal Courts.

America would truly win if you left it. Permanently. Venezuela is calling.

 

[Mac-7]

I can't know the future, and neither can anybody else. It sure looks likely that Trump has 2020 locked down though, but I could be wrong. Does anybody believe Trump will lose 2020?

It could go either way

 

[Mac-7]

The only threat is sanders if he can mobilize the youth vote I doubt he can be stopped.

He can be stopped

but if it is sanders we will see a classic debate of marxism vs capitalism

I hope trump is doing his homework

 

[Dekster]

I can't know the future, and neither can anybody else. It sure looks likely that Trump has 2020 locked down though, but I could be wrong. Does anybody believe Trump will lose 2020?

I assume he will, unfortunately, be re-elected. I am rooting for Bloomberg but will be voting for the Greens.

Why would you root for Bloomberg and not vote for him?

I root for him because he is the only one who can go toe to toe with Donald Trump. I won't vote for him because he is a democrat and I refuse to vote for democrats. If he were running as an Independent, I would totally be behind Bloomberg.