Anxiety Grows Over Trump's Pending Decision On Obama's Un-Constitutional Treaty With Iran

[radical right]

So you didn't answer his question.

I answered, you just ignore the answers.

But instead Trump plays golf at one of his many golf courses, and charges the secret service rent and fees for being there and following him around.

Trump has neither opened the books so the treasury could see how much income Trump made from foreigners, nor has Trump made any remittances to the Treasury on that income.

Trump billed/bills the secret service rent at Trump tower, about $1 million
Trump billed the secret service 50% of the cost of his campaign plane travel.
Trump billed/bills the secret service for golf cart rentals to protect him on the golf course
Trump bills the secret service for room and board at Mar-a-lago.

For foreign income, Trump has not remitted income from foreigners at Trump International in Washington DC.

 

[IsaacNewton]

It's a simple equation, if the US pulls out of the Iran Nuclear Deal signed by many countries not just the US, the US loses all credibility and becomes North Korea diplomatically. No one would trust us to keep ANY agreement we sign with orange turd in office.

Cons never look past the next hour and think they are free to do whatever they like. Sorry derps, the world doesn't operate that way.

 

[radical right]

It's a simple equation, if the US pulls out of the Iran Nuclear Deal signed by many countries not just the US, the US loses all credibility and becomes North Korea diplomatically. No one would trust us to keep ANY agreement we sign with orange turd in office.

The world is finding out what america has already come to notice. That anything Trump says means nothing. Trump promised he wouldn't play golf, Trump promised he's "drain the swamp", Trump promised to pull out of TTP, and now wants to get back in. Trump promised to designate china a currency manipulator.

 

[K9Buck]

[QUOTE="radical right, post: 19792906, member: ]
Trump is a habitual liar.[/QUOTE]

And you're a habitual partisan hack.

 

[radical right]

Trump is a habitual liar.

And you're a habitual partisan hack.

But you can't refute my point that Trump is a habitual liar.

 

[OKTexas]

The Constitution clearly defines the powers and authorities each branch of government has. It makes extremely clear that the President of the United States does NOT have the authority to unilaterally negotiate his own TREATY with foreign government, especially terrorist ones, by-pass Congress, and have it ratified before the U.n. before Congress ever gets a chance to see it, let alone vote on it....but that is exactly what Barry did.

Much like Benghazi, every other nation pulled out....but Barry stayed.

Every other nation's negotiations teams walked away from the table in talks with Iran as Iran made threats, mocked them, and made ridiculous demands...but Barry stayed.

The Ayatollah led chants of 'Death To America' in the streets of Tehran while the US delegation sat at the table...but Barry stayed.

Iran's military made practice bombing runs on mock US carriers while its military leaders called for 'Death To America' during the negotiations...but Barry stayed.

One of Iran's leaders declared publicly that Barry would not walk away from the table no matter what they did because he was desperate to agree to some treaty to leave behind as part of his 'Destiny'...but Barry stayed.

Negotiating peace through WEAKNESS, Barry was forced to pay a ransom for US hostages instead of demanding the hostages be part of a 'peace deal' that handed over billions and billions of dollars back to Iran and lifted sanctions. It was reported later that Barry did not even ASK that to be part of the deal for FEAR Iran would walk away.

In the end Obama agreed to a, Un-Constitutional, pi$$-poor 'TREATY' with Iran...one that he hid from Congress, one that he fled to the U.N. to have ratified before allowing the US Congress to even see it, let alone vote on it.

And after all of this, our US Congressmen acted like a bunch of 'cucks' by relinquishing their power and authority to make / sign treaties to the Constitutional usurper / violator, accepting it as legal / binding...

...and now 'everyone waits anxiously' to see if Trump will also accept it as a legal, binding TREATY, one that he will adhere to.....

This Constitutional Violation, this illegal / un-official US 'Treaty', is one of THE last criminal 'Legacies' of Barak Obama....another instance in which the previous criminal President has left this President between a rock and a hard place.



GOP anxiety grows over Trump’s Iran decision

It was never ratified by the Senate, it's not a treaty, if it were Trump couldn't walk away from it.


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[HenryBHough]

When Muller craps out we will see why Democrats are discouraged from living in hi-rise apartments with windows that can be opened.

 

[K9Buck]

Trump is a habitual liar.

And you're a habitual partisan hack.

But you can't refute my point that Trump is a habitual liar.

Trump has said things that aren't true, but what does that have to do with the topic of the thread?

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

The Constitution clearly defines the powers and authorities each branch of government has. It makes extremely clear that the President of the United States does NOT have the authority to unilaterally negotiate his own TREATY with foreign government, especially terrorist ones, by-pass Congress, and have it ratified before the U.n. before Congress ever gets a chance to see it, let alone vote on it....but that is exactly what Barry did.

Where it the Hell did you dig up that propagandized HORSESHIT? You IGNORANT bastards keep making this shit up as if you've actually read that Contract with the People! The Executive branch is empowered by the Constitution to unilaterally negotiate treaties.

US Constitution - Article II, § 2;
"He shall have power [the President], by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;"

Ya see dummy, there's this thing in the Constitution called the Separation of Powers. The POTUS with his staff, the State Dept, et al, are the ones Constitutionally authorized to negotiate treaties with other sovereign Nations...that's their bit on their side of the power wall. When it's successful, THEN POTUS takes that treaty to the Senate for ratification on an up or down vote 2/3's majority up vote (the advise & consent thingy).

You come back an tell me I'm wrong because Obama swore on the Qur'an and wasn't lawfully the President. Or that I'm wrong because Hillary BENGHAZI'ed Vince Foster OR some other supercilious swill fresh from your septic tank of dodges and excuses to avoid speaking truth and staying on topic, which is toxic to your ilk! Bottom line is your assertion that Presidents can't unilaterally negotiate treaties for the United States is fucked up dead dog stupid WRONG! You are a damn LIAR, a fool or both!!

 

[OKTexas]

So you didn't answer his question.

I answered, you just ignore the answers.

But instead Trump plays golf at one of his many golf courses, and charges the secret service rent and fees for being there and following him around.

Trump has neither opened the books so the treasury could see how much income Trump made from foreigners, nor has Trump made any remittances to the Treasury on that income.

Trump billed/bills the secret service rent at Trump tower, about $1 million
Trump billed the secret service 50% of the cost of his campaign plane travel.
Trump billed/bills the secret service for golf cart rentals to protect him on the golf course
Trump bills the secret service for room and board at Mar-a-lago.

For foreign income, Trump has not remitted income from foreigners at Trump International in Washington DC.

Where's your proof of any of these claims? Are you aware that the GSA sets the rates federal employees can pay for lodging, airfare and other travel related expenses. They also contract office space, last I saw they had a trailer in front of Trump tower as an OPS center. So how about you provide some current links that back up what you're saying.


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[radical right]

And you're a habitual partisan hack.

Trump has said things that aren't true, but what does that have to do with the topic of the thread?

Neither does calling me a habitual partisan hack.

 

[WheelieAddict]

Trump will tweet something crazy.
Sarah huckleberry will tell the press it means something different.
Trump will tweet again confirming the crazy.
Sarah huckleberry will just lie and tell the press it's their fault.
Etc...

 

[K9Buck]

And you're a habitual partisan hack.

Trump has said things that aren't true, but what does that have to do with the topic of the thread?

Neither does calling me a habitual partisan hack.

And you run from the question like the kunt that you are.

 

[radical right]

Are you aware that the GSA sets the rates federal employees can pay for lodging, airfare and other travel related expenses. They also contract office space, last I saw they had a trailer in front of Trump tower as an OPS center. So how about you provide some current links that back up what you're saying.
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The trailer was set up after Melania moved out of Trump Tower.
They're still in Bedford, and Mar-a-lago.

 

[radical right]

And you run from the question like the kunt that you are.

And which question would that be? You can restate it for the record.

Looks like you can't question the answer.

 

[OKTexas]

The Constitution clearly defines the powers and authorities each branch of government has. It makes extremely clear that the President of the United States does NOT have the authority to unilaterally negotiate his own TREATY with foreign government, especially terrorist ones, by-pass Congress, and have it ratified before the U.n. before Congress ever gets a chance to see it, let alone vote on it....but that is exactly what Barry did.

Where it the Hell did you dig up that propagandized HORSESHIT? You IGNORANT bastards keep making this shit up as if you've actually read that Contract with the People! The Executive branch is empowered by the Constitution to unilaterally negotiate treaties.

US Constitution - Article II, § 2;
"He shall have power [the President], by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;"

Ya see dummy, there's this thing in the Constitution called the Separation of Powers. The POTUS with his staff, the State Dept, et al, are the ones Constitutionally authorized to negotiate treaties with other sovereign Nations...that's their bit on their side of the power wall. When it's successful, THEN POTUS takes that treaty to the Senate for ratification on an up or down vote 2/3's majority up vote (the advise & consent thingy).

You come back an tell me I'm wrong because Obama swore on the Qur'an and wasn't lawfully the President. Or that I'm wrong because Hillary BENGHAZI'ed Vince Foster OR some other supercilious swill fresh from your septic tank of dodges and excuses to avoid speaking truth and staying on topic, which is toxic to your ilk! Bottom line is your assertion that Presidents can't unilaterally negotiate treaties for the United States is fucked up dead dog stupid WRONG! You are a damn LIAR, a fool or both!!

Tell the class when it was ratified by the senate.


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[OKTexas]

Are you aware that the GSA sets the rates federal employees can pay for lodging, airfare and other travel related expenses. They also contract office space, last I saw they had a trailer in front of Trump tower as an OPS center. So how about you provide some current links that back up what you're saying.
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The trailer was set up after Melania moved out of Trump Tower.
They're still in Bedford, and Mar-a-lago.

So you don't have any current links to these huge bills Trump is presenting to the government? Didn't think so.


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[deanrd]

The Constitution clearly defines the powers and authorities each branch of government has. It makes extremely clear that the President of the United States does NOT have the authority to unilaterally negotiate his own TREATY with foreign government, especially terrorist ones, by-pass Congress, and have it ratified before the U.n. before Congress ever gets a chance to see it, let alone vote on it....but that is exactly what Barry did.

Much like Benghazi, every other nation pulled out....but Barry stayed.

Every other nation's negotiations teams walked away from the table in talks with Iran as Iran made threats, mocked them, and made ridiculous demands...but Barry stayed.

The Ayatollah led chants of 'Death To America' in the streets of Tehran while the US delegation sat at the table...but Barry stayed.

Iran's military made practice bombing runs on mock US carriers while its military leaders called for 'Death To America' during the negotiations...but Barry stayed.

One of Iran's leaders declared publicly that Barry would not walk away from the table no matter what they did because he was desperate to agree to some treaty to leave behind as part of his 'Destiny'...but Barry stayed.

Negotiating peace through WEAKNESS, Barry was forced to pay a ransom for US hostages instead of demanding the hostages be part of a 'peace deal' that handed over billions and billions of dollars back to Iran and lifted sanctions. It was reported later that Barry did not even ASK that to be part of the deal for FEAR Iran would walk away.

In the end Obama agreed to a, Un-Constitutional, pi$$-poor 'TREATY' with Iran...one that he hid from Congress, one that he fled to the U.N. to have ratified before allowing the US Congress to even see it, let alone vote on it.

And after all of this, our US Congressmen acted like a bunch of 'cucks' by relinquishing their power and authority to make / sign treaties to the Constitutional usurper / violator, accepting it as legal / binding...

...and now 'everyone waits anxiously' to see if Trump will also accept it as a legal, binding TREATY, one that he will adhere to.....

This Constitutional Violation, this illegal / un-official US 'Treaty', is one of THE last criminal 'Legacies' of Barak Obama....another instance in which the previous criminal President has left this President between a rock and a hard place.



GOP anxiety grows over Trump’s Iran decision

I'm not sure which treaty you are talking about since the Iran treaty was signed by a half dozen nations and passed by the UN Security Council.
So tell us the name of the treaty or we will have to assume you are Chines. Your name being Won Dum Fuk.

 

[Bush92]

The Constitution clearly defines the powers and authorities each branch of government has. It makes extremely clear that the President of the United States does NOT have the authority to unilaterally negotiate his own TREATY with foreign government, especially terrorist ones, by-pass Congress, and have it ratified before the U.n. before Congress ever gets a chance to see it, let alone vote on it....but that is exactly what Barry did.

Much like Benghazi, every other nation pulled out....but Barry stayed.

Every other nation's negotiations teams walked away from the table in talks with Iran as Iran made threats, mocked them, and made ridiculous demands...but Barry stayed.

The Ayatollah led chants of 'Death To America' in the streets of Tehran while the US delegation sat at the table...but Barry stayed.

Iran's military made practice bombing runs on mock US carriers while its military leaders called for 'Death To America' during the negotiations...but Barry stayed.

One of Iran's leaders declared publicly that Barry would not walk away from the table no matter what they did because he was desperate to agree to some treaty to leave behind as part of his 'Destiny'...but Barry stayed.

Negotiating peace through WEAKNESS, Barry was forced to pay a ransom for US hostages instead of demanding the hostages be part of a 'peace deal' that handed over billions and billions of dollars back to Iran and lifted sanctions. It was reported later that Barry did not even ASK that to be part of the deal for FEAR Iran would walk away.

In the end Obama agreed to a, Un-Constitutional, pi$$-poor 'TREATY' with Iran...one that he hid from Congress, one that he fled to the U.N. to have ratified before allowing the US Congress to even see it, let alone vote on it.

And after all of this, our US Congressmen acted like a bunch of 'cucks' by relinquishing their power and authority to make / sign treaties to the Constitutional usurper / violator, accepting it as legal / binding...

...and now 'everyone waits anxiously' to see if Trump will also accept it as a legal, binding TREATY, one that he will adhere to.....

This Constitutional Violation, this illegal / un-official US 'Treaty', is one of THE last criminal 'Legacies' of Barak Obama....another instance in which the previous criminal President has left this President between a rock and a hard place.



GOP anxiety grows over Trump’s Iran decision

Executive Agreement (constitutionally it was not) was the most dumbassed foreign policy move in history.

 

[Bush92]

The Constitution clearly defines the powers and authorities each branch of government has. It makes extremely clear that the President of the United States does NOT have the authority to unilaterally negotiate his own TREATY with foreign government, especially terrorist ones, by-pass Congress, and have it ratified before the U.n. before Congress ever gets a chance to see it, let alone vote on it....but that is exactly what Barry did.

Much like Benghazi, every other nation pulled out....but Barry stayed.

Every other nation's negotiations teams walked away from the table in talks with Iran as Iran made threats, mocked them, and made ridiculous demands...but Barry stayed.

The Ayatollah led chants of 'Death To America' in the streets of Tehran while the US delegation sat at the table...but Barry stayed.

Iran's military made practice bombing runs on mock US carriers while its military leaders called for 'Death To America' during the negotiations...but Barry stayed.

One of Iran's leaders declared publicly that Barry would not walk away from the table no matter what they did because he was desperate to agree to some treaty to leave behind as part of his 'Destiny'...but Barry stayed.

Negotiating peace through WEAKNESS, Barry was forced to pay a ransom for US hostages instead of demanding the hostages be part of a 'peace deal' that handed over billions and billions of dollars back to Iran and lifted sanctions. It was reported later that Barry did not even ASK that to be part of the deal for FEAR Iran would walk away.

In the end Obama agreed to a, Un-Constitutional, pi$$-poor 'TREATY' with Iran...one that he hid from Congress, one that he fled to the U.N. to have ratified before allowing the US Congress to even see it, let alone vote on it.

And after all of this, our US Congressmen acted like a bunch of 'cucks' by relinquishing their power and authority to make / sign treaties to the Constitutional usurper / violator, accepting it as legal / binding...

...and now 'everyone waits anxiously' to see if Trump will also accept it as a legal, binding TREATY, one that he will adhere to.....

This Constitutional Violation, this illegal / un-official US 'Treaty', is one of THE last criminal 'Legacies' of Barak Obama....another instance in which the previous criminal President has left this President between a rock and a hard place.



GOP anxiety grows over Trump’s Iran decision

I'm not sure which treaty you are talking about since the Iran treaty was signed by a half dozen nations and passed by the UN Security Council.
So tell us the name of the treaty or we will have to assume you are Chines. Your name being Won Dum Fuk.

It was an “executive agreement.” Educate yourself dumb fuck.