Zone1 Antisemites lie about Israel being an apartheid state

[Lisa558]

A Jew claiming to not know what Ben Shapiro is talking about when describing himself as a Talmudic Jew comes across as either funny as hell or blatantly dishonest. I don't know any Hebrew. You seem to speak English fairly well, but who knows, maybe you don't. Talmudic Jew seems easy to understand to me. Why doesn't Rose understand what Ben is saying? Is Rose being honest?

I’m a fairly observant Jew, and I have no idea what a Talmudic Jew is, either.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

And on the flip side, no Jew has ever gone to a Ramadan Party and gunned down 15 Muslims for the sole reason that they were Muslims.

I think Joe must have attracted a HAMAS group and is now being paid to spread his antisemitic hate. Why else would anyone devote so many hours a day to villifying the Jews? What would he get out of it?

He would say it's not about Jews but Zionism. On the other hand he would also say "If you are going to blow up innocent people in Qatar then you shouldn't be surprised when Jews are targeted in Australia."

He's been waffling back and forth between Zionism being the problem and Jews being the problem.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

His friends were taunting, he just stood there with that smirking look.

You've been saying he was taunting and now you're saying he didn't taunt but he was smirking. Did you know this entire time he did not participate in the taunting? If you did, why did you lie? If you didn't, why did you lie?

Also, he wasn't "smirking" until Phillips got in his face. Another lie.

Exactly. You aren't worth the trouble of posting a link that you will pretend you never saw.

Another of your underhanded tactics: quoting out of context.

But, I don't believe I've ever done that to anyone, including you.

And once again you refuse to provide specifics or clarification. The question was: Do you know the Bondi Beach victims were killed because they were Zionists? If so, how?

 

[ShahdagMountains]

I know, you guys get a lot of miles out of that lie that the Arabs were mean to you after you screwed them.

Except nobody's buying it anymore.

More rubbish talk.

 

[JoeB131]

so you equate "Zionist supporters" (yet you have no way of establishing that the people on the beach were, indeed, Zionists) with "terrorists" that Hamas admits were hiding in Doha.

Because a 10 year old girl at a religious event in Australia is the same as Khalil al-Hayya.

You think the Zionists were that concerned about collateral damage? 17,000 of the 72,000 people they've killed in Gaza are children.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Why are Jews so hated?​

My short answer is this. Throughout human history, we find that groups hate other groups. That is not a law of nature. It should be stopped—and the wars that it causes. But it’s been a stable part of the human condition.

Originally, Jews must have been hated, as every group was hated. But Jews persevered. So did the hatred against them. And they endured because their moral message was superior to that of other groups. And that built tremendous irritation and jealousy among non-Jews. Instead of honoring Jews for giving the world so much moral clarity, we were often despised.

We can’t help it. Just by being ourselves, we hold up a mirror to the world, and the world doesn’t like the reflection it sees. So, the murderers must whitewash themselves by calling the Jews murderers. The thieves call the Jews thieves. The poor call the Jews rich. The rich call the Jews poor.

Jewish excellence, that ’causes’ Antisemitism, or better, Gentiles’ inability to appreciate Jews’ excellence motivates them to hate us. The Jewish attempt to be so humble that no one would notice us often failed.

The Blogs: The shortest and best answer to why Jews are hated

From the blog of Moshe-Mordechai van Zuiden at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

 

[JoeB131]

You've been saying he was taunting

Yes, he was. Look, he was smirking like a little punk when Philipps walked up to him, but he and the other LCBs were instigating the People of Color.

And once again you refuse to provide specifics or clarification.

Not my job, man.

 

[JoeB131]

He would say it's not about Jews but Zionism. On the other hand he would also say "If you are going to blow up innocent people in Qatar then you shouldn't be surprised when Jews are targeted in Australia."

He's been waffling back and forth between Zionism being the problem and Jews being the problem.

The problem is if you declare war on 1.5 Muslims, you should expect some blowback.

We never seem to learn this lesson.

 

[rosends]

You think the Zionists were that concerned about collateral damage? 17,000 of the 72,000 people they've killed in Gaza are children.

so now you are equating people in a war zone with people not in a war zone. Interesting approach.

 

[rosends]

The problem is if you declare war on 1.5 Muslims, you should expect some blowback.

We never seem to learn this lesson.

why do you assume that anyone declared war on Muslims? If there were a war against Muslims, the 20% of Israeli citizens who are Muslims would be getting attacked also, right? And yet they aren't.

 

[Lisa558]

He would say it's not about Jews but Zionism. On the other hand he would also say "If you are going to blow up innocent people in Qatar then you shouldn't be surprised when Jews are targeted in Australia."

He's been waffling back and forth between Zionism being the problem and Jews being the problem.

They always give away that they mean Jews when they say Zionists.

I think it was Joe who was railing about how being opposed to Israel and Zionism doesn’t mean he is opposed to Jews - and then continued on to call Netanyahu a “Jewish bully” and say the world would not submit to “Jewish terrorists.”

The terms are interchangeable. They know saying “the Jews are evil scum who deserve to die” would sound too much like Hitler, so they say Zionists instead. They fool nobody.

 

[georgephillip]

No it doesn't. Sorry that your AI explanation doesn't help you understand.

I understand those who actively support a genocide qualify for a violent death; why don't you?

"Rabbi Eli Schlinger, who was killed in an armed attack in Sydney on Sunday, had previously visited Israel and met with Israeli soldiers, encouraging them to continue the war of genocide against the Gaza Strip, an Israeli television channel and an Israeli activist have revealed."

Rabbi killed in Sydney attack encouraged Israel’s genocide in Gaza; Report says

 

[Lisa558]

I understand those who actively support a genocide qualify for a violent death; why don't you?

"Rabbi Eli Schlinger, who was killed in an armed attack in Sydney on Sunday, had previously visited Israel and met with Israeli soldiers, encouraging them to continue the war of genocide against the Gaza Strip, an Israeli television channel and an Israeli activist have revealed."

Rabbi killed in Sydney attack encouraged Israel’s genocide in Gaza; Report says

I’m sure not clicking on whatever antisemitic site you just linked to. There is no genocide being conducted by Jews.

There are genocides elsewhere around the world, including by Muslims against Christians in Africa. But, to prove the point of the thread, you ignore that to LIE about the Jews.

 

[JoeB131]

so now you are equating people in a war zone with people not in a war zone. Interesting approach.

People in Qatar aren't in the war zone.

Seems if Israel wants to make the whole world "the war zone", they should expect this.

They always give away that they mean Jews when they say Zionists.

I think it was Joe who was railing about how being opposed to Israel and Zionism doesn’t mean he is opposed to Jews - and then continued on to call Netanyahu a “Jewish bully” and say the world would not submit to “Jewish terrorists.”

I love Lisa. She claims she has me on ignore, and then misquotes what I say. (Or just makes shit up.)

The terms are interchangeable. They know saying “the Jews are evil scum who deserve to die” would sound too much like Hitler, so they say Zionists instead. They fool nobody.

Except the whole world is turning against Zionism, that's the problem

 

[georgephillip]

I’m sure not clicking on whatever antisemitic site you just linked to. There is no genocide being conducted by Jews.

There are genocides elsewhere around the world, including by Muslims against Christians in Africa. But, to prove the point of the thread, you ignore that to LIE about the Jews.

What's your definition of "genocide"?

"The Chabad-Lubavitch movement has long rejected Palestinian national rights and opposes any political settlement that would grant Palestinians sovereignty over occupied territory.

"Israel’s genocide in Gaza has, for more than two years, resulted in the killing of over 70,000 Palestinians and the wounding of more than 171,000 others, most of them women and children, according to Palestinian health authorities and international organisations.

"The campaign has triggered widespread international condemnation and deepened Israel’s global isolation."

Rabbi killed in Sydney attack encouraged Israel’s genocide in Gaza; Report says

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Yes, he was. Look, he was smirking like a little punk when Philipps walked up to him,

You said he was taunting and then you said he wasn't. Which is it going to be? And "smirking" is just your take on it. An opinion, in other words. He smiled at Phillips because he had no idea why Phillips got in his face.

but he and the other LCBs were instigating the People of Color.

A lie. The BHIs instigated the taunting. You've been told this. In fact, they were also taunting Phillips' group before Phillips approached Sandmann.

They were taunting everyone because they're racist assholes. But you justify that because they're people of color by saying they're mentally ill, which of course, is not true. However, Sandmann was white, Catholic and pro-life so he was an easy target for you.

Not my job, man.

You did the work to make the claim. You claim they were killed because they were Zionists. How do you know this?

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

The problem is if you declare war on 1.5 Muslims, you should expect some blowback.

We never seem to learn this lesson.

You said the Bondi Beach victims were killed because they were Zionists and then you say they were killed because they're Jews. Which is it going to be?

 

[Lisa558]

What's your definition of "genocide"?

"The Chabad-Lubavitch movement has long rejected Palestinian national rights and opposes any political settlement that would grant Palestinians sovereignty over occupied territory.

"Israel’s genocide in Gaza has, for more than two years, resulted in the killing of over 70,000 Palestinians and the wounding of more than 171,000 others, most of them women and children, according to Palestinian health authorities and international organisations.

"The campaign has triggered widespread international condemnation and deepened Israel’s global isolation."

Rabbi killed in Sydney attack encouraged Israel’s genocide in Gaza; Report says

There’s no genocide. Lord knows what Arab site you’re linking to - but I can tell it’s already full of lies.

And it’s pretty horrible to lie about a rabbi who was just murdered by one of your fellow Islamists.

 

[rosends]

I understand those who actively support a genocide qualify for a violent death; why don't you?

"Rabbi Eli Schlinger, who was killed in an armed attack in Sydney on Sunday, had previously visited Israel and met with Israeli soldiers, encouraging them to continue the war of genocide against the Gaza Strip, an Israeli television channel and an Israeli activist have revealed."

Rabbi killed in Sydney attack encouraged Israel’s genocide in Gaza; Report says

Here are some problems -

Who actively supports genocide?
What constitutes active support?
What genocide?
Are there rules about this "violent death"? Can you break into his house and murder him in his sleep? Must you abide by the laws governing your behavior?

I, personally, don't think of anyone as "qualify[ing] for a violent death". I don't aspire to being that blood thirsty.

The rabbi told the soldiers of their responsibility to protect Israel and Israelis. Your MEM takes a decidedly partisan approach. That's poor form and dishonest.

 

[georgephillip]

There’s no genocide. Lord knows what Arab site you’re linking to - but I can tell it’s already full of lies.

And it’s pretty horrible to lie about a rabbi who was just murdered by one of your fellow Islamists.

Overwhelming evidence of genocide against Palestinians: a legal expert unpacks the UN report on Gaza​

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"What is the evidence?​

"By analysing the elements of the definition of genocide, the COI (UN Commission of Inquiry) concludes that Israeli forces have committed 4 of the 5 acts that constitute genocide committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as per the 1948 UN Convention. Namely, these are:

• "killing members of the group
• causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
• deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
• imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group."