Zone1 Antisemites lie about Israel being an apartheid state

[PeterPilot]

why would you make something like that up? Is it supposed to be funny? It is preferable to say things that are true and based in evidence and facts.

When will you be practicing what you preach? The various holy books are notoriously mendacious, and the Talmud is downright sinful and perverted.

 

[Lisa558]

A total ignoramus pervert, gets off on Joo stuff.

They’re all the same.

Would the mods allow such ongoing lies if they were about blacks?

 

[PeterPilot]

A total ignoramus pervert, gets off on Joo stuff.

They’re all the same.

Yes, the disgusting Goyim, meant to be slaves to the Jews according to their 'holy book'.

 

[Lisa558]

Yes, the disgusting Goyim, meant to be slaves to the Jews according to their 'holy book'.

In the meantime, the Muslims are the slaveholders CURRENTLY. That is, when there not busy committing genocide against Christians and Jews.

You’re not fooling anyone, Mohammed. You’re one of the Muslims who has invaded London.

 

[rosends]

When will you be practicing what you preach? The various holy books are notoriously mendacious, and the Talmud is downright sinful and perverted.

First, you didn't answer what I asked. Next you accuse me of something but I don't do nothing that you accuse me of. Next, the Talmud is not mendacious nor sinful or perverted. You will probably want to run to some website that lists mistranslations and misrepresentations of the Talmud to make yourself feel better. I will point out your errors and you will ignore it.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Yes, the disgusting Goyim, meant to be slaves to the Jews according to their 'holy book'.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

That’s because to antisemites like Joe, “Zionist” means “Jew.” They think by using phrases like “the Zionist Regime” (there is no such thing), they can get away with demonizing all Jews and getting the world closer to another Holocaust.

Joe gave it away when he said the poor, innocent Jews out celebrating Hanukkah were Zionists, and clearly he thinks they deserved it.

Just like the Nazis did: they deserved to die for being Jewish.

I've been sparring with Joe pretty much since I joined almost eight years ago and I have a pretty good grasp on his debate style. First and foremost, he has no qualms about lying and he does so as a matter of course. When caught in a lie and confronted, he will simply not even acknowledge that he was caught and forge ahead with the next lie or irrelevancy.

Second, he will not support any claim he makes, either with links or even a verbal explanation for clarification and will not provide any details or specifics. The exchange over his claim about the Bondi Beach victims being Zionists from a "particularly fanatical" sect of Judaism is a prime example. He refused to name the sect or explain why they're particularly fanatical.

As for the whole Israel/Jew issue, I've told him and others that people are conflating the issue of either Zionists or Israelis to be a generally Jewish issue. He is definitely one of them.

 

[Lisa558]

I've been sparring with Joe pretty much since I joined almost eight years ago and I have a pretty good grasp on his debate style. First and foremost, he has no qualms about lying and he does so as a matter of course. When caught in a lie and confronted, he will simply not even acknowledge that he was caught and forge ahead with the next lie or irrelevancy.

Second, he will not support any claim he makes, either with links or even a verbal explanation for clarification and will not provide any details or specifics. The exchange over his claim about the Bondi Beach victims being Zionists from a "particularly fanatical" sect of Judaism is a prime example. He refused to name the sect or explain why they're particularly fanatical.

As for the whole Israel/Jew issue, I've told him and others that people are conflating the issue of either Zionists or Israelis to be a generally Jewish issue. He is definitely one of them.

So true, and these antisemites are intentionally conflating the issue because they hate Jews and want to spew their anti-Jew venom, all hidden as…cough, cough….being opposed to Israeli policies only.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

So true, and these antisemites are intentionally conflating the issue because they hate Jews and want to spew their anti-Jew venom, all hidden as…cough, cough….being opposed to Israeli policies only.

Yup.

I remember a couple of years ago, not long after the Hamas/Gaza thing got going, there was a news item about students at an elementary school (in NYC I believe) who wanted to march down to a Jewish community center to protest. I was appalled that the school allowed elementary students to go to a Jewish community center to protest the Israeli war in Gaza.

It was a deliberate conflation of the issue to be about Jews that the kids learned from adults and the ******* school condoned it and even chaperoned the march. I just couldn't believe it.

 

[Lisa558]

Yup.

I remember a couple of years ago, not long after the Hamas/Gaza thing got going, there was a news item about students at an elementary school (in NYC I believe) who wanted to march down to a Jewish community center to protest. I was appalled that the school allowed elementary students to go to a Jewish community center to protest the Israeli war in Gaza.

It was a deliberate conflation of the issue to be about Jews that the kids learned from adults and the ******* school condoned it and even chaperoned the march. I just couldn't believe it.

There was an incident about a year ago where two administrators at a public middle school, named after Martin Luther King, Jr., took their kids out of class, had them don pro-Palestinian garb and carry Palestinian flags, and had them march down to the Jewish Community Center where a nursery school class was being held, and yelled outside the window for all the little Jewish 4-year-olds to hear…..

“Death to Jews!!”

 

[georgephillip]

You’re another buffoon, full of psycho babble.

Why can't you provide a rational explanation for why Israeli Jews have the right to steal more Arab land in Lebanon, Syria, and Gaza?

All the countries Israel attacked in 2025: Animated map

 

[georgephillip]

You antisemitic liar. I’m talking about the ENTIRE Middle East. Your Arabs drove nearly 1 million Jews off their land, and stole everything they had.

You really should be banned, the way you spread antisemitic lies. Are you TRYING to incite another Holocaust?

Why don't you try refuting his claims about why Jews fled North Africa when the French imperialists left and the Jews fleeing Egypt after the Suez Crisis?

Are you Hasbara?

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

There was an incident about a year ago where two administrators at a public middle school, named after Martin Luther King, Jr., took their kids out of class, had them don pro-Palestinian garb and carry Palestinian flags, and had them march down to the Jewish Community Center where a nursery school class was being held, and yelled outside the window for all the little Jewish 4-year-olds to hear…..

“Death to Jews!!”

I don't remember about the flags and whatnot but we may actually be talking about the same incident.

Edited to say yes, we're talking about the same incident. It was in Berkeley in 2024.

 

[georgephillip]

ah, the pre-emptive victim, assuming what others are going to do and then acting violently before it happens. Makes perfect sense.

Only to those who don't know what "preemptive" means.

Arabs were well aware of the Zionist displacement of tenant farmers who had lived on the land for generations to make way for European Jews with no familial ties to Palestine.

Arabs also understood the colonial framework that prioritized the rights of immigrant Jews over the indigenous Arab majority.

"The 1947 Partition Plan:

"The UN Partition Plan allocated 55% of the land to a proposed Jewish state, despite Jews owning less than 7% and being a minority of the population at the time.

"This is viewed by many Palestinians as a 'legalized' form of land theft."

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[rosends]

Only to those who don't know what "preemptive" means.

Arabs were well aware of the Zionist displacement of tenant farmers who had lived on the land for generations to make way for European Jews with no familial ties to Palestine.

Arabs also understood the colonial framework that prioritized the rights of immigrant Jews over the indigenous Arab majority.

"The 1947 Partition Plan:

"The UN Partition Plan allocated 55% of the land to a proposed Jewish state, despite Jews owning less than 7% and being a minority of the population at the time.

"This is viewed by many Palestinians as a 'legalized' form of land theft."

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And yet nothing that you presented contradicts my claim. In fact, it supports it. Thanks!

 

[Lisa558]

The Arabs supported Hitler’s extermination of the Jews, and then they cry when the survivors return to their ancestral homeland - after watching their spouses and children murdered, their livelihoods ruined, the homes stolen - and the Hitler-supporting Arabs got paid.

Compare that to the Arabs who chased 850,000 Jews out of their homes and stole their land, houses, furniture, and all possessions.

Hajj Amin al-Husayni meets Hitler | Holocaust Encyclopedia

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum | Holocaust Encyclopedia

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[JoeB131]

You antisemitic liar. I’m talking about the ENTIRE Middle East. Your Arabs drove nearly 1 million Jews off their land, and stole everything they had.

You really should be banned, the way you spread antisemitic lies. Are you TRYING to incite another Holocaust?

Much like your dishonest OP (where you tried to claim traffic signs in Mecca were proof of some discrimination), you dishonestly cite migration of Jews from the Middle East without context.

The big three on your list were French colonies where the Jews were supporters of the Colonial Administration, that's why they left.

 

[JoeB131]

The Arabs supported Hitler’s extermination of the Jews, and then they cry when the survivors return to their ancestral homeland - after watching their spouses and children murdered, their livelihoods ruined, the homes stolen - and the Hitler-supporting Arabs got paid.

Again, that's not true, either. In fact, most of the Arab World stayed out of the fight. Had they rebelled against the British and French during the war, the war would have had a very different outcome.

In fact, many Arabs fought FOR the allies.

 

[JoeB131]

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I've been sparring with Joe pretty much since I joined almost eight years ago and I have a pretty good grasp on his debate style. First and foremost, he has no qualms about lying and he does so as a matter of course. When caught in a lie and confronted, he will simply not even acknowledge that he was caught and forge ahead with the next lie or irrelevancy.

Nope, having an opinion that' not yours isn't a lie, and keep repeating your opinions like they are facts don't make them the truth.

Second, he will not support any claim he makes, either with links or even a verbal explanation for clarification and will not provide any details or specifics. The exchange over his claim about the Bondi Beach victims being Zionists from a "particularly fanatical" sect of Judaism is a prime example. He refused to name the sect or explain why they're particularly fanatical.

Because I learned a long time ago, doing links or citations is usually a waste of time. Nobody has ever said to me after I post a link,'Wow, I didn't know that." Google is your friend.

As for the whole Israel/Jew issue, I've told him and others that people are conflating the issue of either Zionists or Israelis to be a generally Jewish issue. He is definitely one of them.

How is it not a "Jewish" issue? Israel's influence in the world is because of Jews living outside of Israel putting political pressure on mostly Western governments. Now, if Israel is going to claim the right to bomb Qatar for its support of Hamas, they really shouldn't complain when Islamic terrorists target Zionists outside of Israel.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Squeal like a pig, boy.



Nope, having an opinion that' not yours isn't a lie, and keep repeating your opinions like they are facts don't make them the truth.

You've lied about Sandmann and you've lied about the Michael Brown shooting. You said Sandmann taunted the BHIs; he did not. I told you he did not participate in the taunting three times just in the last discussion and the video proves it. You nevertheless continue to believe it and say it.
You said he disrespected a veteran; he did not.
You say you don't hate Catholics but you consistently denigrate his Catholicism and his pro-life stance, neither of which had anything to do with the incident. That alone makes you a...well, since this is Zone1, feminine hygiene device.
You say the school staged the pro-life demonstration at the memorial but you've been told numerous times they were at the memorial waiting for their bus.

I asked you repeatedly why you insist on lying about Sandmann and you refuse to even acknowledge the question, let alone refute it.

Because I learned a long time ago, doing links or citations is usually a waste of time. Nobody has ever said to me after I post a link,'Wow, I didn't know that." Google is your friend.

It doesn't matter if they read the links or not. As long as you don't provide links or at least give a reasoned argument you appear intellectually dishonest. And you are.

Your arguments and comments about the Bondi Beach victims were worthless because you refused to support them in any way. And you refused to explain how their Zionism (if indeed they were Zionists which has been disputed by Jews here) had anything to do with what's going on in Israel and Gaza. Upon questioning you refused to say how or if these Zionists in particular had a hand in American politics, which is your biggest hangup about them.

How is it not a "Jewish" issue? Israel's influence in the world is because of Jews living outside of Israel putting political pressure on mostly Western governments. Now, if Israel is going to claim the right to bomb Qatar for its support of Hamas, they really shouldn't complain when Islamic terrorists target Zionists outside of Israel.

So, then, the Bondi Beach Jews were killed because they were Jews? Is that what you're telling me now after telling me before it was all about Zionism?

You just can't keep your own bullshit straight, can you?