Okay, what defense do you have when you encounter a criminal who is armed and you are not?
Is this about defense?
No, this is about statistics. Why?
Alaska, heavily armed state. It's the second most armed state after Wyoming.
It also has the highest rape rate in the US. So, all those guns, are they PROTECTING people or are they ENDANGERING people?
The US has more guns than any other first world western nation and it also has more murders than any other first world western nation.
As much as you can defend yourself with a gun, you're more likely to be killed by a gun.
Freedom is messy and chaotic, sometimes dangerous. It's still preferable to giving up freedom for the illusion of safety.
Ah, freedom.
Like the freedom of Mexicans to enter the US? Wait, all of a sudden the right prefers safety over freedom. Same with Muslims in the US.
Same with a lot of things.
I get it, people use whatever arguments they think will win them the argument, even if they're contradictory as hell to what they wrote for a previous topic.
It's called compartmentalization. But don't let this get in the way of a crap story.
And this is where the wheels fall off your tricycle. American citizens have freedom. Those who come here legally have freedom. See where I'm going with this?
Just in case you don't, I'll spell it out for you. If you are not an American citizen and do not live legally in the United States, you don't have the freedom American citizens have. If you come here illegally, you do not have the freedom American citizens have. Heck, if you're an American citizen living abroad, you have to obey the laws of the country you're in or you lose your freedom.
Please, do tell us how and why a Mexican living in Mexico has and should have the freedom to come here illegally. Tell us how and why an Iranian living in Iran has and should have the freedom to come here illegally.
See, this is why it's very hard to take lefties seriously on immigration. They cannot, despite being educated on the subject many times, distinguish between legal and illegal immigration.
No, I don't think you're looking at the right tricycle.
My argument isn't that illegal Mexicans should be afforded the same privileges as Americans.
My argument is that there's a contradiction.
The right will come out with the freedom card when it suits them. Then they'll come out with the security card when it suits them.
We need guns because we need our freedom, even if 10,000+ die a year. Freedom is paramount.
We need to limit immigrants from Muslim countries that have never done anything because there's a chance 10 people might down. Security is paramount.
Do you see what I'm saying? I'm only offering one example. I could fill the page with examples, but you won't read them, so what's the point? I've given my example, you have two choices, understand my point, or go off on one thinking I'm only talking about the issue of immigrants, which I'm not. This isn't about immigrants, it's about freedom v. security.