Another Obama Administration Achievement

[boedicca]

WE'RE #16 NOW! WoooHooo!
(I feel like Slim Pickens riding the nuke down in the movie 'Doctor Strange Love' lol)

We're Number 16! U.S. Drops Again in Economic Freedom - Breitbart

Imagine that, were on the right track then, its a conservative and libertarian think tank in Canada. and Canada has had universal health care and SSM for longer than us. Look what the elites have done to us, smothered us to death , now they want to take SS and Medicare, that will make lots of more wealthy free people. Hong Kong is not a Christian nation last I checked.

The punctuation abuse makes babies Strunk and White cry.

Strunk, is that a word?

* sigh *

The Elements of Style - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Penelope]

Were still recovering from Bush.

Ummm...'recovering' would mean there is and has been progress since the man who promised to cut our debt in half by the end of his 1st term was over took office (but ended up adding over $6 trillion in only 4 years). Not long ago we were #12...now we're #16. That's a decline, not a recovery...under Obama!

Cleaning up Bush's mess takes money.

The problem with your premise is that Liberals all agree that the decline in the economy began in the last 2 years of Bush's last 2 years in office. Up until then, despite 9/11/01 / the economic collapse as a result of 9/11/01 / 2 wars Bush had only added 2 1/2 Trillion in debt over 6 years....in the last 2 years 1 1/2 Trillion in debt was added. So what was the change, why the explosion in added debt? Whoever control the Congress controls the purse strings is the old saying even Democrats agree with...except when they are the ones holding the purse strings!

In the last 2 years of the Bush administration the purse strings were held by the Democrats, who were 1 seat away from TRULY having a 'super-majority' control of Congress. They held this level of control until the end of Obama's 2nd year in office.

SO, if the decline in the economy began in the last 2 years of the Bush administration, picking up speed downhill like a sled on a greased track, it was the DEMOCRATS who began making the mess. At the very LEAST the Democrats can say that the added 1.5 Trillion added at the end of the Bush administration (last 2 years) was 'SHARED debt addition', but the OVER $6 Trillion in new debt added under Obama is all Obama's and his fellow democrats'!

And as I said, Obama promised he would cut our debt in half by the end of his 1st term. By the end of his 1st term he had added more debt than EVERY other US President COMBINED!

We are paying a lot for Syria, and Libya cost a lot as well (which is still a mess), not to mention Iraq. . All this was planned before 911, the pentagon had lost trillions, according to Rumsfeld. All the disabled vets cost money, Bush made a mess out of it with his buddies , and they came out of it stinking rich.

really? bush and his buddies came out of "it" "stinking rich"? ------because of the plans they had before 9-11? Just what were the plans------I would like to make plans to be "stinking rich" too

I suggest you read PNAC, which you obviously never had. Pay attention to the authors and the signers.

 

[irosie91]

Ummm...'recovering' would mean there is and has been progress since the man who promised to cut our debt in half by the end of his 1st term was over took office (but ended up adding over $6 trillion in only 4 years). Not long ago we were #12...now we're #16. That's a decline, not a recovery...under Obama!

Cleaning up Bush's mess takes money.

The problem with your premise is that Liberals all agree that the decline in the economy began in the last 2 years of Bush's last 2 years in office. Up until then, despite 9/11/01 / the economic collapse as a result of 9/11/01 / 2 wars Bush had only added 2 1/2 Trillion in debt over 6 years....in the last 2 years 1 1/2 Trillion in debt was added. So what was the change, why the explosion in added debt? Whoever control the Congress controls the purse strings is the old saying even Democrats agree with...except when they are the ones holding the purse strings!

In the last 2 years of the Bush administration the purse strings were held by the Democrats, who were 1 seat away from TRULY having a 'super-majority' control of Congress. They held this level of control until the end of Obama's 2nd year in office.

SO, if the decline in the economy began in the last 2 years of the Bush administration, picking up speed downhill like a sled on a greased track, it was the DEMOCRATS who began making the mess. At the very LEAST the Democrats can say that the added 1.5 Trillion added at the end of the Bush administration (last 2 years) was 'SHARED debt addition', but the OVER $6 Trillion in new debt added under Obama is all Obama's and his fellow democrats'!

And as I said, Obama promised he would cut our debt in half by the end of his 1st term. By the end of his 1st term he had added more debt than EVERY other US President COMBINED!

We are paying a lot for Syria, and Libya cost a lot as well (which is still a mess), not to mention Iraq. . All this was planned before 911, the pentagon had lost trillions, according to Rumsfeld. All the disabled vets cost money, Bush made a mess out of it with his buddies , and they came out of it stinking rich.

really? bush and his buddies came out of "it" "stinking rich"? ------because of the plans they had before 9-11? Just what were the plans------I would like to make plans to be "stinking rich" too

I suggest you read PNAC, which you obviously never had. Pay attention to the authors and the signers.

Of course I read it------you keep mentioning it in your posts------I read it and I still do
not know what is happening next-------but YOU do -----it is PLANNED------since you
read it and by reading now you KNOW what is happening NEXT------why not just say ------WHAT IS HAPPENING NEXT

 

[Penelope]

WE'RE #16 NOW! WoooHooo!
(I feel like Slim Pickens riding the nuke down in the movie 'Doctor Strange Love' lol)

We're Number 16! U.S. Drops Again in Economic Freedom - Breitbart

Imagine that, were on the right track then, its a conservative and libertarian think tank in Canada. and Canada has had universal health care and SSM for longer than us. Look what the elites have done to us, smothered us to death , now they want to take SS and Medicare, that will make lots of more wealthy free people. Hong Kong is not a Christian nation last I checked.

The punctuation abuse makes babies Strunk and White cry.

Strunk, is that a word?

* sigh *

The Elements of Style - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh no, you must be an English teacher. Sorry , I'm not a writer and not in need.

 

[Penelope]

WE'RE #16 NOW! WoooHooo!
(I feel like Slim Pickens riding the nuke down in the movie 'Doctor Strange Love' lol)

We're Number 16! U.S. Drops Again in Economic Freedom - Breitbart

Imagine that, were on the right track then, its a conservative and libertarian think tank in Canada. and Canada has had universal health care and SSM for longer than us. Look what the elites have done to us, smothered us to death , now they want to take SS and Medicare, that will make lots of more wealthy free people. Hong Kong is not a Christian nation last I checked.

PS:

As recently as 2000, the United States was the second-freest economy in the world.

Were still recovering from Bush.

Bush was the worst thing that happened in a long time. I get sick to think I voted for him , twice. Will never make the mistake of voting for another Bush.

 

[Obiwan]

From
Journal Of Debunking  9/11 Conspiracy Theories

http://jod911.com/The_PNAC_and_Other_Myths.pdf

The PDF download offers proof that a 9/11 conspiracy (PNAC) doesn't exist.

 

[Stephanie]

that's not all Obama achieved according to this person who wrote this article. way to go all you who put him as our President. who knows if we will survive him

snip:
The blueprint for taking over the West was there for everyone --including the enemy--to clearly see
Obama handing Caliphate on a plate to Islamic terrorists

By Judi McLeod September 14, 2015 |


If there is one thing President Barack Obama has accomplished for Islam, it was exposing to jihadists the horrendously soft underbelly of the present day West.

During his seven year long hold over America, Obama was the first western leader to fundamentally transform a once thriving nation into a helpless borderless state. Like most of his policies, the borderless country concept was not his original idea, but one he adopted from the global citizen-advocating United Nations.

In the upheaval caused by millions of refugees flooding European borders, too many remain unaware that the imprimatur of a defenseless west was both laid bare and originated by none other than Barack Obama.

In their centuries-old dream of imposing a Caliphate on the civilized world, the bloodthirsty terrorists of radical Islam didn’t have to read teacups this time. They only had to follow Obama’s Hansel and Gretel-like bread crumbs to find a surefire way into the West.

Almost overnight the same ISIS terrorists Obama refused to name went from graphic Internet videos of beheadings to heartbreaking photos of Muslim ‘refugees’, mostly women and children dying in desperate attempts to reach Europe.

For Obama, Marxist superiority went all the way from not crossing his media hyped ‘red line’ to zero lines of defense for the safety of unsuspecting citizens worldwide.

The blueprint for taking over the West was there for everyone—including the enemy—to clearly see.


(Read Full Article)

 

[daws101]

From
Journal Of Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

http://jod911.com/The_PNAC_and_Other_Myths.pdf

The PDF download offers proof that a 9/11 conspiracy (PNAC) doesn't exist.

To conspiracy nuts the nonexistent of something is meaningless.

 

[boedicca]

WE'RE #16 NOW! WoooHooo!
(I feel like Slim Pickens riding the nuke down in the movie 'Doctor Strange Love' lol)

We're Number 16! U.S. Drops Again in Economic Freedom - Breitbart

Imagine that, were on the right track then, its a conservative and libertarian think tank in Canada. and Canada has had universal health care and SSM for longer than us. Look what the elites have done to us, smothered us to death , now they want to take SS and Medicare, that will make lots of more wealthy free people. Hong Kong is not a Christian nation last I checked.

The punctuation abuse makes babies Strunk and White cry.

Strunk, is that a word?

* sigh *

The Elements of Style - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh no, you must be an English teacher. Sorry , I'm not a writer and not in need.

No, I'm not an English teacher. I'm just well read.

 

[ScienceRocks]

WE'RE #16 NOW! WoooHooo!
(I feel like Slim Pickens riding the nuke down in the movie 'Doctor Strange Love' lol)

We're Number 16! U.S. Drops Again in Economic Freedom - Breitbart

Imagine that, were on the right track then, its a conservative and libertarian think tank in Canada. and Canada has had universal health care and SSM for longer than us. Look what the elites have done to us, smothered us to death , now they want to take SS and Medicare, that will make lots of more wealthy free people. Hong Kong is not a Christian nation last I checked.

PS:

As recently as 2000, the United States was the second-freest economy in the world.

Were still recovering from Bush.

Bush was the worst thing that happened in a long time. I get sick to think I voted for him , twice. Will never make the mistake of voting for another Bush.

I did the same thing! He didn't come off as a cut, slash and burn kook and I was young....

 

[daws101]

Six really stupid 9/11 conspiracies debunked in about six seconds

 

[imawhosure]

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Six really stupid 9/11 conspiracies debunked in about six seconds

Daws 101, also.............why don't you tell all of these nice people why, even on the anniversary of 9/11, we do not see on television the actual attacks on the World Trade Center?

Could it be because the left doesn't want to reignite the anger in the American people? Oh, I know, I know, it is because children will get scared, and yet, they watch Freddie Kruger. It is not supposed to be, but it is soooooo transparent, it is disgusting. We see the Nazi gas chambers 1/3 o the time anyone turns on the History channel, and yet, they insure as best they can, we won't se our people killed, by ISLAMIST TERRORISTS! Pathetic! Now if anything is a CONSPIRACY, I is that in my book. Let America REMEMBER what they did to us, then try to make the Iranian deal, and see how that flies!!!!!

 

[daws101]

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Six really stupid 9/11 conspiracies debunked in about six seconds

Daws 101, also.............why don't you tell all of these nice people why, even on the anniversary of 9/11, we do not see on television the actual attacks on the World Trade Center?

Could it be because the left doesn't want to reignite the anger in the American people? Oh, I know, I know, it is because children will get scared, and yet, they watch Freddie Kruger. It is not supposed to be, but it is soooooo transparent, it is disgusting. We see the Nazi gas chambers 1/3 o the time anyone turns on the History channel, and yet, they insure as best they can, we won't se our people killed, by ISLAMIST TERRORISTS! Pathetic! Now if anything is a CONSPIRACY, I is that in my book. Let America REMEMBER what they did to us, then try to make the Iranian deal, and see how that flies!!!!!

best total bullshit response I read all day.
for the week prior to and including 9/11 the history channel, Smithsonian channel, destination America channel msnbc ,cnn, fox, telemundo, etc. played and replayed news broadcasts, documentaries and just about everything 9/11 that a sane person could stand , as they have done every year, sometimes twice a year for the past 14 years.
now I have to take a shower to wash off all that ignorance...

 

[aris2chat]

I did not realize how long ago the movie was.............make me feel OLD
Oddly foretelling then and now

 

[daws101]

I did not realize how long ago the movie was.............make me feel OLD
Oddly foretelling then and now

Still a great film.
As to the rest what ever happens will be a suprise.

 

[easyt65]

[QUOTE="Penelope, post: 12310203, member: 50023] Bush was the worst thing that happened in a long time. I get sick to think I voted for him , twice. Will never make the mistake of voting for another Bush.[/QUOTE]

Bush was the worst thing that ever happened in a long time? I agree that he was not the best President by far, but he was sure a helluva lot better than the one we have now.

Despite getting the blame for dragging us into 2 wars by HIMSELF, that is just Liberal denial and delusion. After the 9/11.01 attack, the planning of which began during Clinton's administration (and they never realized something fishy about a bunch of Muslim guys wanting to learn to FLY a plane but not caring about how to LAND a 747 was a little fishy), Democrats did not just vote to give Bush the authorization to go to war, they LOUDLY advocated if from the floors of the House and Senate:

- "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." -- Bill Clinton

- "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." --Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser

- "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by: -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL)

- "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." -- Al Gore

- "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA)

When anyone points out that these GROWN-UPs declared these things and voted on their own to give Bush the authority to go to war they freak out, claim Democrats have no accountability, and blame BUSH for them voting the way they personally did.

Did Bush go to far? Depends on who you ask. If you could ask JFK - he said the US would make any sacrifice, bear any burden to stand with a people who desired freedom. Obama claimed he wanted peace above all else and that we should stay out of other people's/nations' business.....

...of course THAT was before he injected himself into Egypt's politics by helping the terrorist group the Muslim Brotherhood take over our ally's government and before he took this nation to war on his own to help the perpetrators of 9/11/01 (and 9/11/12) take over Libya. (Did ya vote for THIS guy twice?) (By the way, yes, I think Bush went too far.)

Obama...a self-professed tutored student of Communist Frank Marshall Davis, student of Socialist Saul Alynski - even quoted him during an inauguration speech, mentored 'child' for more than a decade of racist hate-spewing anti-American 'pastor' Jeremiah Wright, and friend of domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, a man who bombed his own country and who killed cops (anyone wonder why Obama started the War on Cops?), and the offspring of an Anti-Colonialist who believed the US became great by raping and pillaging the world and who wanted to see the US eliminated as a world power and a world influence...vowed before he entered office to 'fundamentally change the US'...to see daddy's dream come true.

Obama thought the American people were SO stupid that he OPENLY adopted an historical, well-known Socialist slogan and symbol for his re-election campaign, believing most stupid people would not know it, would not believe it if pointed out, or wouldn't care. It turned out that all 3 were true. (To prove how arrogant and how Un-American the Democratic party (Progressive Socialists) has become, they are running an openly admitted full-blown Socialist as their party's potential nominee to be President ... showing they WELCOME and are open to represent SOCIALISTS, that they advocate Socialism as a replacement to the government our Founding Fathers created and entrusted to us. Obama has already 'mortally wounded it, violating his oath of office, Constitution, and Rule of Law at will as it suits him... Now they're sending in Bernie to 'finish her off'?!) And people still voted for this man...twice...voted for their / our nation's downfall.

Carter USED to be the standard-bearer for bad Presidents. Actually he WAS THE worst US President....until Obama. When Iran held our hostages Carter demanded them back...even attempted a military rescue of our hostages. Iran has 4 US hostages right now...and they weren't even important enough to Obama to ASK Iran if they would return them to us in exchange for the 'deal' he gave them that included BILLIONS of Dollars, and end to sanctions, a pretty un-opposed pathway to get nuclear weapons.

Obama's Iran 'Deal' will prevent Iran from getting nukes as much as his Syrian 'RED LINE' prevented Syria from using biological weapons against his own people.

And in response to arguably America's worst day, 9/11/01, Bush declared to the citizens of NY and the world, "I hear you, the world hears you, and soon the people who did this will hear you."

The day after Obama's own 9/11 - a day in which 20 US embassies throughout the Middle East were simultaneously attacked, 4 overrun, & 4 Americans were killed - to include the 1st US Ambassador in over 30 years - he spoke no words of comfort or assurance to Americans. Obama and his administration clown posse attempted to sell the lie that the attacks on the US and murders were (almost justified) because of a bogus VIDEO! Almost a month later, during a speech before the U.N., Obama once again blamed a video and declared to the world - especially the Muslim world - almost apologetically, "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." The 4 Americans, and their families who were lied to regarding the reason for their deaths, deserved better than that. AMERICA deserved better than that...

 

[jon_berzerk]

so much to be proud of

 

[jknowgood]

WE'RE #16 NOW! WoooHooo!
(I feel like Slim Pickens riding the nuke down in the movie 'Doctor Strange Love' lol)

We're Number 16! U.S. Drops Again in Economic Freedom - Breitbart

Imagine that, were on the right track then, its a conservative and libertarian think tank in Canada. and Canada has had universal health care and SSM for longer than us. Look what the elites have done to us, smothered us to death , now they want to take SS and Medicare, that will make lots of more wealthy free people. Hong Kong is not a Christian nation last I checked.

PS:

As recently as 2000, the United States was the second-freest economy in the world.

Were still recovering from Bush.

Bush was the worst thing that happened in a long time. I get sick to think I voted for him , twice. Will never make the mistake of voting for another Bush.

Since you know it all. Please tell us which united states city will get nuked by Obama's Iran nuclear bomb?

 

[easyt65]

Since you know it all. Please tell us which united states city will get nuked by Obama's Iran nuclear bomb?

Never claimed I knew / know it all...but 66% of Congress - to include Democrats - and 78% of the American people reportedly oppose this deal.

THAT IS BECAUSE EVEN A BLIND MAN KNOWS THAT GIVING THE LEADING EXPORTER OF TERRORISM IN THE WORLD, a nation that demanded that recognizing Israel's right to exist NOT be part of the deal and has since declared Israel will not survive the next 10 years while continuing to call for the death of America, BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THE RIGHT TO KEEP THEIR OWN URANIUM, THE RIGHT TO KEEP OPERATING THOUSANDS OF CENTRIFUGES TO CONTINUE TO REFINE THAT URANIUM, AN INSPECTION PROCESS THAT CONSISTS OF SELF-INSPECTIONS, AND A 48-HOUR REQUEST FOR OUTSIDERS - NOT TO INCLUDE THE US - TO VISIT NON-MILITARY FACILITIES, such as the extremely deep underground facility where they have thousands of centrifuges running, IS AN EXTREMELY BAD IDEA!

We've already gone down this road, and intelligent people know history repeats itself. Bill Clinton gave North Korea a nuclear reactor to appease them and to PREVENT them from getting a nuke...and they have a nuke now. Obama just allowed Iran - the country that aided the 9/11/01 terrorists - to keep everything they need to build a nuke - while they build intercontinental ballistic missiles so they can reach the US - with an inspection process that consists of them monitoring and reporting on themselves.

How do you think this is going to go?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

WE'RE #16 NOW! WoooHooo!
(I feel like Slim Pickens riding the nuke down in the movie 'Doctor Strange Love' lol)

We're Number 16! U.S. Drops Again in Economic Freedom - Breitbart

Now THAT is Change You can Belieb In!