Another Juror, B29, speaks out.

[TemplarKormac]

I've given up trying to explain this to people. All of them swallowed the media narrative hook, line, and sinker.

 

[velvtacheeze]

ROFLMAO.

You can't refute a single point I made, so you run off on a tangent on something that absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter. That is a tactic of a person who realizes too late they have painted themselves into a corner. Either admit that they have been wrong, or "Look, squirrel".

Looks like you chose the "Look, Squirrel" route.

Your points are pure fantasy. The mistakes that were made were Zimmerman's. All of them. The death was made possible by George's racist decision making.

Trayvon clearly thought he was about to be mugged, and stood his ground. Too bad George Zimmerman made the mistake of not being more deferential and apologetic once confronted by Trayvon. It was yet another Zimmerman mistake. Now he's a roly-poly 30 year old loser spending all say in his hidey-hole, a subject of scorn and contempt. What a horrible life. He deserves worse.

No, Trayvon did NOT stand his ground....

He walked/ran towards Zimmerman, who had turned around heading back to his vehicle in the opposite direction of Trayvon, and attacked him.

As I said... Trayvon had many choices he could have made instead of the ones he did. By changing any of those choices, he would still be alive today.. or at least not dead by a gunshot in selfdefense by Zimmerman.

Trayvon stood his ground against what he could only assume was a potential mugger. He had the right to do that, under Florida law.

We clearly need federal regulations on these sketchy neighborhood watches. Since Zimmerman's unwarranted call the police came to light, I've read about dozens of stories from innocent blacks being harrassed and hounded for just not being recognized by a member of the watch.

These regulations should include:

Mandatory training and licensing by local police, uniforms or IDs that make who they are obvious, no guns, rules stating when cops are to be called, as in not when a black kid is just walking in the neighborhood. I'm sure there are plenty of others that would help.

Had the first mistake that night not been made, the rest of the ones the followed would not have been made. Zimmerman should have done his job and been a watchmen, and watched Martin complete his walk back to his dad's girlfriends' apartment. No call to the police was needed at all.

 

[dilloduck]

Your points are pure fantasy. The mistakes that were made were Zimmerman's. All of them. The death was made possible by George's racist decision making.

Trayvon clearly thought he was about to be mugged, and stood his ground. Too bad George Zimmerman made the mistake of not being more deferential and apologetic once confronted by Trayvon. It was yet another Zimmerman mistake. Now he's a roly-poly 30 year old loser spending all say in his hidey-hole, a subject of scorn and contempt. What a horrible life. He deserves worse.

No, Trayvon did NOT stand his ground....

He walked/ran towards Zimmerman, who had turned around heading back to his vehicle in the opposite direction of Trayvon, and attacked him.

As I said... Trayvon had many choices he could have made instead of the ones he did. By changing any of those choices, he would still be alive today.. or at least not dead by a gunshot in selfdefense by Zimmerman.

Trayvon stood his ground against what he could only assume was a potential mugger. He had the right to do that, under Florida law.

We clearly need federal regulations on these sketchy neighborhood watches. Since Zimmerman's unwarranted call the police came to light, I've read about dozens of stories from innocent blacks being harrassed and hounded for just not being recognized by a member of the watch.

These regulations should include:

Mandatory training and licensing by local police, uniforms or IDs that make who they are obvious, no guns, rules stating when cops are to be called, as in not when a black kid is just walking in the neighborhood. I'm sure there are plenty of others that would help.

Had the first mistake that night not been made, the rest of the ones the followed would not have been made. Zimmerman should have done his job and been a watchmen, and watched Martin complete his walk back to his dad's girlfriends' apartment. No call to the police was needed at all.

stop with the insane "reasoning" If Trayvon was never born none of this would happen. WTF is wrong with Atlanta btw ?

 

[Papageorgio]

Well, his opinion is sort of based on facts:



SEMINOLE COUNTY 10-CODES & SIGNALS

TEL = non-911 police number (answered by 911 dispatcher)

BM = black male

LSW = last seen wearing

46. Feb. 26, 2012 – 7:20 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: Repeats prior report


45. Feb. 26, 2012 (night of Martin shooting) – 7:11 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: Black male “late teens lsw dark gray hoodie jeans or sweatpants walking around area” … “subj now running towards back entrance of complex”


44. Feb. 2, 2012 – 8:29 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: “BM lsw: black leather jacket, black hat, printed PJ pants, he keeps going going to this” location


43. Jan. 29, 2012 – 5:38 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Disturbance
Report: Children “running and playing in the street”

42. Dec. 10, 2011 – 5:29 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Disturbance
Report: “At the club house” … “Male subject [arrived on scene] that thought he was employed by” Zimmerman … “Subj is expected to get paid for serving food.” … Zimmerman “said that he didn’t wish him to serve at the [event]” … Zimmerman “hired someone else, subj sounded upset and wants to get paid”


41. Oct. 1, 2011 – 12:53 a.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: Two black male suspects “20–30 YOA in [white] Chevy poss Impala at the gate of the community.” Zimmerman “does not recognize subjs or veh and is concerned due to recent” burglaries in the area


40. Sept. 23, 2011 – 11:08 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Neighbor/Suspicious activity
Report: Zimmerman reports “open garage door” … Describes “neighborhood watch mtg last night with Sgt Herx who [advised] to report anything [suspicious]” … Zimmerman “is part of neighborhood watch” and is concerned because of recent burglaries in the area


39. Aug. 6, 2011 – 10:20 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: Two black males, one wearing a black tank top and black shorts, the second wearing a black t-shirt and jeans … “Subjs are in their teens”


38. Aug. 3, 2011 – 6:45 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: Black male last seen wearing a white tank top and black shorts … Zimmerman “believes subject is involved in recent” burglaries in the neighborhood


37. May 27, 2011 – 9:18 a.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Alarm
Report: Zimmerman “has a self responding alarm that just notified him of” an alarm at this location


36. April 22, 2011 – 7:09 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: Juvenile black male “apprx 7–9” years old, four feet tall “skinny build short blk hair” last seen wearing a blue t-shirt and blue shorts


35. March 18, 2011 – 9:26 p.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Animals
Report: Zimmerman requested an officer meet him regarding a pit bull in his garage


34. Nov. 26, 2010 – 2:54 a.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Alarm
Report: Zimmerman was out of town and a motion alarm he monitors himself went off


33. Nov. 8, 2010 – 6:54 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Maintenance
Report: Zimmerman reports “trash in roadwy”


32. Oct. 2, 2010 – 1:55 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Disturbance
Report: Zimmerman reports “blu jeep grand Cherokee female driver yelling at elderly passengers … windows are tinted” … “the veh was rocking back and forth and he could hear the female yelling”


31. June 26, 2010 – 11:00 p.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Disturbance
Report: “Loud party … approx 50 subjs & blocking the street”


30. June 12, 2010 – 11:13 p.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Disturbance
Report: Subject “at the clubhouse & pool areas having a party”


29. April 28, 2010 – 9:02 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Disturbance
Report: “White older model four-door Buick or Oldsmobile” obstructing road


28. Feb. 27, 2010 – 4:46 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: “Residence w/a lot of [suspicious] activity” … “multiple vehs are constantly coming to the” location … “unk subs run out to the vehs and run back inside” … “the subjs are always outside w/the garage open” … “the subjs hang out towards the st all night//ongoing problem”


27. Jan. 12, 2010 – 10:25 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Neighbor
Report: Open garage door … Zimmerman says “this is very unlike his neighbor” … “there is a lot of electronics in the resd and posb in the garage”


26. Jan. 1, 2010 – 4:34 a.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Disturbance
Report: Zimmerman reports reckless driver in “purplish Ford Ranger single cab”

25. Nov. 3, 2009 – 5:04 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Disturbance
Report: White Ford F350 that was “cutting people off”


24. Nov. 21, 2009 – 2:26 p.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Unclear


23. Oct. 23, 2009 – 9:18 a.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Animals
Report: “Aggressive white and brown pitbull” sitting outside Zimmerman’s home


22. Sept. 22, 2009 – 6:00 p.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Disturbance
Report: “Yellow speed bike … was speeding and weaving in and out of traffic and doing wheelies”


21. Sept. 7, 2009 – 9:01 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Maintenance

20. Aug. 26, 2009* - 8:35 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: “Gold Caprice … male driving with no headlights … speeding”


19. Aug. 21, 2009 – 6:57 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Conflict
Report: “Landlord is trying to take [Zimmerman’s] money for rent … and home in foreclosure”


18. June 16, 2009 – 3:50 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Disturbance
Report: Persons in the pool area playing basketball, “jumpin over the fence going into pool area and trashin the bathroom”


17. June 10, 2009 – 1:55 a.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Alarm
Report: Fire alarm going off


16. May 4, 2009 – 4:07 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: Reports a blue Audi A4


15. March 12, 2009 – 6:58 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Patrol
Report: Patrol request between March 13 and March 22


14. Jan. 5, 2009 – 10:53 p.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Alarm
Report: Fire alarm going off


13. Nov. 25, 2007 – 12:40 a.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Disturbance
Report: “Ex roommate is letting people that [Zimmerman] don’t like in the” house


12. Nov. 25, 2007 – 12:21 a.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Disturbance
Report: White male ex-roommate last seen wearing a red Florida State University shirt


11. Oct. 14, 2007 – 4:10 p.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: “Pot hole in the road” … “it is deep and can cause damage to vehicles”

10. June 24, 2007 – 12:48 a.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: “By the pool”, two Hispanic males and one white male with “slim jim”


9. Nov. 4, 2006 – 2:37 a.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: A call regarding a “late model red” Toyota pickup “driving around the neighborhood and apt complex for the past 5 min”


8. Sept. 23, 2005 – 7:03 p.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: Zimmerman’s “little sister just call him from above” his address and advises “there was a” suspicious person “at the front door”


7. Sept. 21, 2005 – 9:00 p.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Animals
Report: Reports a stray dog


6. April 27, 2005 – 12:40 a.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Neighbor
Report: Open garage door


5. March 17, 2005 – 7:21 p.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Maintenance
Report: Pothole “that is blocking the road”


4. Oct. 20, 2004 – 9:13 p.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Disturbance
Report: Drunk pedestrian walking in the road


3. Aug. 20, 2004 – 11:33 p.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Neighbor
Report: Reports an open garage door


2. Aug.12, 2004 – 10:03 a.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: Repeats earlier report


1. Aug. 12, 2004 – 9:59 a.m.
Type: 911
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: Places a call reporting a male in a green Ford pickup

From the Sanford, Florida Police Logs
46 Calls - The Daily Beast

46 calls, he identified 7 blacks, 2 whites and 2 Hispanics. Most of the reporting of blacks occurred during the crime spree, where blacks were the perps.

Not seeing much here, looks pretty even over and 8 year period, nice try.

I see an over zealous, racist, copwannbe loser..who needs a life.

So calling 9/11 every 63 days makes you zealous, identifying whites, blacks and hispanics in your calls makes you racist.

I see you as a profiler wanna be who is racist against Hispanics...and needs a life.

 

[Lakhota]

I look forward to Rachel Jeantel getting another crack at Zimmerman.

 

[dilloduck]

I look forward to Rachel Jeantel getting another crack at Zimmerman.

oh ya---she'll be a lawyer by then

 

[NYcarbineer]

I have been to jury selection and it isn't the cream of the crop that gets picked. So I am thinking this woman just ain't that bright. That said, if after listening to the trial and the evidence she still voted for acquittal but believes him to be innocent what does that make her? She should STFU before Zimmerman rightfully sues her for smearing him. She had her chance to vote him guilty, now she is just engaging in slander or proving she is a liar.

It's slander to hold the opinion that Zimmerman got away with murder? lol, where did you go to school?

It's slander. We went to the school of facts, objectivity, and reality. You went to the school of lies, deception, and misinformation.

Hope that clears a few things up, Carbine.

Then it was slander/libel for you to say the President was guilty until proven innocent in the IRS affair.

Slander/libel for the dozens on this forum who have called Bill Clinton a rapist.

Not to mention slander for anyone who says that OJ got away with murder, correct?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Whom denied whom what? Zimmerman did nothing wrong under Florida LAW. What of this don't YOU understand? Hmmm?

And it's not a crime to walk through a neighborhood.

But it is a crime to hassle someone who hasn't committed one.

It's called assault.

It is a crime to walk on private property, next to houses where you don't live.

It's called "Trespassing".

BTW, here is the legal definition of "Assault"

Generally, the essential elements of assault consist of an act intended to cause an apprehension of harmful or offensive contact that causes apprehension of such contact in the victim.

The act required for an assault must be overt. Although words alone are insufficient, they might create an assault when coupled with some action that indicates the ability to carry out the threat. A mere threat to harm is not an assault; however, a threat combined with a raised fist might be sufficient if it causes a reasonable apprehension of harm in the victim

What Zimmerman was doing was not assault. Trayvon, when he raised his fist to Zimmerman committed assault.

It was never proven who threw the first bunch or otherwise instigated/incited the physical altercation. You continue to misrepresent the facts, which, broadly speaking, is lying.

btw, for all you geniuses who are capable of paying attention, pay attention.

Self-defense, as a defense in court, is an affirmative defense, and as such,

the burden of proof shifts to the defendant to prove self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

[NYcarbineer]

ROFLMAO.

You can't refute a single point I made, so you run off on a tangent on something that absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter. That is a tactic of a person who realizes too late they have painted themselves into a corner. Either admit that they have been wrong, or "Look, squirrel".

Looks like you chose the "Look, Squirrel" route.

Your points are pure fantasy. The mistakes that were made were Zimmerman's. All of them. The death was made possible by George's racist decision making.

Trayvon clearly thought he was about to be mugged, and stood his ground. Too bad George Zimmerman made the mistake of not being more deferential and apologetic once confronted by Trayvon. It was yet another Zimmerman mistake. Now he's a roly-poly 30 year old loser spending all say in his hidey-hole, a subject of scorn and contempt. What a horrible life. He deserves worse.

No, Trayvon did NOT stand his ground....

He walked/ran towards Zimmerman, who had turned around heading back to his vehicle in the opposite direction of Trayvon, and attacked him.

As I said... Trayvon had many choices he could have made instead of the ones he did. By changing any of those choices, he would still be alive today.. or at least not dead by a gunshot in selfdefense by Zimmerman.

And who said that?

 

[PredFan]

I don't care what the FBI says. IMO, Zimmerman is a racist, and the unnecessary phone call to the police on Trayvon, who was only walking down the road, is the all the proof I need. Deal with it.

Listen, I'm not the fatso loser in some hidey-hole, Zimmerman is, and it's his fault. Had he been less racist, and not made that phone call, and just let Trayvon complete his walk back to where he was legally staying, he'd not be where he is.

So despite a complete lack of evidence, you have determined that he's a racist?

Retard.

There's enough evidence to convince me he's racist. Trayvon was not armed, and committed no crime, and George still got on the horn in a flash, calling the police.

I refuse to believe it was something other than Trayvon's race that prompted the call. It certainly wasn't all the crimes Trayvon was committing right in front of George Zimmerman, that's for sure.

Of course you don't. Let me clue you in one one fact since you have no facts of your own: It is YOU who is the ignorant racist.

 

[velvtacheeze]

46 calls, he identified 7 blacks, 2 whites and 2 Hispanics. Most of the reporting of blacks occurred during the crime spree, where blacks were the perps.

Not seeing much here, looks pretty even over and 8 year period, nice try.

I see an over zealous, racist, copwannbe loser..who needs a life.

So calling 9/11 every 63 days makes you zealous, identifying whites, blacks and hispanics in your calls makes you racist.

I see you as a profiler wanna be who is racist against Hispanics...and needs a life.

Calling the cops that many times does make him overzealous, yes. And he called the cops on blacks way to readily. 7 out of 11? Racism.

 

[dilloduck]

I see an over zealous, racist, copwannbe loser..who needs a life.

So calling 9/11 every 63 days makes you zealous, identifying whites, blacks and hispanics in your calls makes you racist.

I see you as a profiler wanna be who is racist against Hispanics...and needs a life.

Calling the cops that many times does make him overzealous, yes. And he called the cops on blacks way to readily. 7 out of 11? Racism.

no---there are ******* black criminals EVERYWHERE

 

[velvtacheeze]

So despite a complete lack of evidence, you have determined that he's a racist?

Retard.

There's enough evidence to convince me he's racist. Trayvon was not armed, and committed no crime, and George still got on the horn in a flash, calling the police.

I refuse to believe it was something other than Trayvon's race that prompted the call. It certainly wasn't all the crimes Trayvon was committing right in front of George Zimmerman, that's for sure.

Of course you don't. Let me clue you in one one fact since you have no facts of your own: It is YOU who is the ignorant racist.

This reply is not convincing. I don't call the cops on black kids whom I don't recognize and are walking by my house. Big ol' Georgie Z does though. What a racist he is.

Trayvon was't doing anything. Zimmerman should have let him go.

 

[Lakhota]

It wouldn't matter if Trayvon was an ex-convict - he was still "murdered" that night.

 

[ScienceRocks]

You can bet your ******* ass if this witch had evidence she would of hung the jury.

This shows what a crack of shit this case really was.

 

[velvtacheeze]

So calling 9/11 every 63 days makes you zealous, identifying whites, blacks and hispanics in your calls makes you racist.

I see you as a profiler wanna be who is racist against Hispanics...and needs a life.

Calling the cops that many times does make him overzealous, yes. And he called the cops on blacks way to readily. 7 out of 11? Racism.

no---there are ******* black criminals EVERYWHERE

No, there's aren't. Only a racist would say that.

 

[dilloduck]

Calling the cops that many times does make him overzealous, yes. And he called the cops on blacks way to readily. 7 out of 11? Racism.

no---there are ******* black criminals EVERYWHERE

No, there's aren't. Only a racist would say that.

Horseshit---the crime stats prove it. Face the facts.

 

[ScienceRocks]

no---there are ******* black criminals EVERYWHERE

No, there's aren't. Only a racist would say that.

Horseshit---the crime stats prove it. Face the facts.

These leftist are just making it worse by making them appear justified for doing such crimes. These people are kind of evil.

 

[Billo_Really]

Lol. You sill believe he said that? "******* cold!"

I don't believe, I know it! I heard it for myself. He didn't say "cold".

Sigh. I will never understand why you, Carbine and Bfgrn cannot for the life of you think for yourselves at any given point in time. Must you be fed false knowledge? Perhaps a diet is in order.

How the **** would you know? You regurgitate right wing talking points no matter what evidence presented to you.

In this case:

• a man with a history of anger issues
• a man who had to enroll in a alcohol rehab program to avoid being convicted of a felony, regarding a confrontation he had with police
• a control freak who punched out his girlfriend for chewing gum
• a man who keeps changing his story every time he tells it
• a man who lied to police about what he was doing out of his car
• a man who had a deadly weapon
• a man who didn't like fuckin' coons
• a man who called the cops 46 times, thus proving he likes to **** with people

And finally, a man who shot to death, an un-armed man.

 

[The Professor]

What happened to all those people who quoted Juror B-29 in an attempt to prove Zimmerman broke the law and got away with it? Why aren't they responding?

How long will it be before they distance themselves from Juror B-29? How long before they malign her?

If she declares she wants to write a book about they trial, how long will it be before her former supporters sabotage her book deal?

It is so ironic that the Juror the Zimmerman bashers quoted to discredit him turned out to be one of his his best defenders.

Juror B-29 stated there was no evidence Zimmerman wanted to kill Martin and because of this she had to find him not guilty. And here's the kicker: She said in clear and unequivocal words that the evidence against Zimmerman was so weak he never should have been arrested. Her comments prove everything Zimmerman's defenders were trying to say: there was no evidence that Zimmerman broke the law and the trial was nothing more than a publicity stunt. State Attorney Angela Corey should be ashamed. Hell, she should be disbarred.