Another case of USA allowing a Communist dictator to ruin a country that had a good leader.

[the other mike]

That isn't truth, for one thing, dumbass. We support Azerbaijan? How?

Chevron in Azerbaijan

 

[bripat9643]

That isn't truth, for one thing, dumbass. We support Azerbaijan? How?

Chevron in Azerbaijan

Chevron is not the US government. Try again.

 

[RandomPoster]

To be fair, it's not right to refer to communism as a trainwreck. It's more of an empty, stagnating void of hopelessness and slow starvation, where the most humane way out is to break the rules and be awarded a swift, merciful death.

 

[the other mike]

Chevron is not the US government. Try again.

Nice dodge, Scissor face. The US government is always involved.
Black ops, CIA, are still red white and blue, sfb.

 

[bripat9643]

Chevron is not the US government. Try again.

Nice dodge, Scissor face. The US government is always involved.
Black ops, CIA, are still red white and blue, sfb.

ROFL! But you can't post any evidence that it is.

You're a moron.

 

[McRocket]

From Wikipedia:

"In the 1950s, Cuba's gross domestic product (GDP) per capita was roughly equal to that of Italy at the time"

Cuba GDP in 2015 = $87.13 billion USD

Italy GDP in 2015 = $1.8 trillion USD

"According to the International Labour Organization, the average industrial salary in Cuba was the world's eighth-highest in 1958, and the average agricultural wage was higher than some European nations."

Oh yeah, it was paradise under Batista:

'However, despite an array of positive indicators, in 1953, the average Cuban family only had an income of $6.00 a week, 15% to 20% of the labor force was chronically unemployed, and only a third of the homes had running water.'

Fulgencio Batista - Wikipedia

Look communism does NOT work - that has been made obvious by history.

But if Batista had not ignored the needs of the poor so much, they would never have supported his overthrow in the first place.

He was a lousy leader...period.

And if America had not embargoed Cuba, Castro would have been overthrown long ago and a democracy would be there right now. Embargoes DO NOT WORK. They just make the leaders more popular as they use the embargo as an excuse for everything and that allows them to blame others for their faults.

America - more than any other single reason, IMO - is the reason for the mess Cuba is now in (and has been in for decades). her leaders propped up Batista and then embargoed - like spoiled brats - Cuba...long after they were any threat to America.

 

[bripat9643]

From Wikipedia:

"In the 1950s, Cuba's gross domestic product (GDP) per capita was roughly equal to that of Italy at the time"

Cuba GDP in 2015 = $87.13 billion USD

Italy GDP in 2015 = $1.8 trillion USD

"According to the International Labour Organization, the average industrial salary in Cuba was the world's eighth-highest in 1958, and the average agricultural wage was higher than some European nations."

Oh yeah, it was paradise under Batista:

'However, despite an array of positive indicators, in 1953, the average Cuban family only had an income of $6.00 a week, 15% to 20% of the labor force was chronically unemployed, and only a third of the homes had running water.'

Fulgencio Batista - Wikipedia

Look communism does NOT work - that has been made obvious by history.

But if Batista had not ignored the needs of the poor so much, they would never have supported his overthrow in the first place.

He was a lousy leader...period.

And if America had not embargoed Cuba, Castro would have been overthrown long ago and a democracy would be there right now. Embargoes DO NOT WORK. They just make the leaders more popular as they use the embargo as an excuse for everything and that allows them to blame others for their faults.

America - more than any other single reason, IMO - is the reason for the mess Cuba is now in (and has been in for decades). her leaders propped up Batista and then embargoed - like spoiled brats - Cuba...long after they were any threat to America.

'However, despite an array of positive indicators, in 1953, the average Cuban family only had an income of $6.00 a week, 15% to 20% of the labor force was chronically unemployed, and only a third of the homes had running water.'

Fulgencio Batista - Wikipedia​

It's Wikipedia, which means it's horseshit.

 

[the other mike]

you can't ..post any evidence .

Saddam was a CIA asset until he invaded Kuwait.

 

[bripat9643]

From Wikipedia:

"In the 1950s, Cuba's gross domestic product (GDP) per capita was roughly equal to that of Italy at the time"

Cuba GDP in 2015 = $87.13 billion USD

Italy GDP in 2015 = $1.8 trillion USD

"According to the International Labour Organization, the average industrial salary in Cuba was the world's eighth-highest in 1958, and the average agricultural wage was higher than some European nations."

Oh yeah, it was paradise under Batista:

'However, despite an array of positive indicators, in 1953, the average Cuban family only had an income of $6.00 a week, 15% to 20% of the labor force was chronically unemployed, and only a third of the homes had running water.'

Fulgencio Batista - Wikipedia

Look communism does NOT work - that has been made obvious by history.

But if Batista had not ignored the needs of the poor so much, they would never have supported his overthrow in the first place.

He was a lousy leader...period.

And if America had not embargoed Cuba, Castro would have been overthrown long ago and a democracy would be there right now. Embargoes DO NOT WORK. They just make the leaders more popular as they use the embargo as an excuse for everything and that allows them to blame others for their faults.

America - more than any other single reason, IMO - is the reason for the mess Cuba is now in (and has been in for decades). her leaders propped up Batista and then embargoed - like spoiled brats - Cuba...long after they were any threat to America.

THE STANDARD OF LIVING IN CUBA

With this information, a comparison of the change in the standard of living in Cuba becomes quite easy and understandable for a great many people: for example, the same teacher that today earns the equivalent of $8.40 monthly would have earned $1.31 monthly in the 50's, and the same engineer would have earned $2.19 monthly. Since it has been solidly demonstrated that the corresponding salaries were in reality 150 and 300 cuban pesos, and that at that time cuban pesos and dollars were of equivalent worth, then we can see that those $1.31 and $2.19 today represent less than 1% of the salaries in the 50's.

The combined effect of the devaluation of the cuban peso against the dollar and of inflation during the last 40 years: 25 x 6.4, that is, 160 has been devastating. A peasant in the fields, a worker in a factory, would have to earn 160 times more in cuban pesos today just to keep up to par with where he was in the living standard he had in the 50's. And this of course assumes that the cuban economy would be able to supply against such demand, something we know is impossible in an inefficient, tyrannical communist system.

Such is the horrible reality of economic life in Cuba. The standard of living is less than 1% of what it was before the communist revolution. It is sufficient only to read a few letters from the island country today to agree that such brutal impoverishment is the terrible representation of daily life in Cuba. ​

 

[bripat9643]

you can't ..post any evidence .

Saddam was a CIA asset until he invaded Kuwait.

The term "CIA asset" is meaningless. We did not "support" Saddam.

 

[the other mike]

The term "CIA asset" is meaningless. We did not "support" Saddam.

rumsfeld saddam meeting - Bing video

 

[the other mike]

U.S. Secretly Gave Aid to Iraq Early in Its War Against Iran

 

[bripat9643]

The term "CIA asset" is meaningless. We did not "support" Saddam.

rumsfeld saddam meeting - Bing video

Obama has met plenty of dictators, including Chavez, Maduro and the current dictator of Cuba.

What's your point?

 

[bripat9643]

U.S. Secretly Gave Aid to Iraq Early in Its War Against Iran

They provided some intelligence. You would have preferred to have Iran win that war?

You're a fucking moron. You're spouting all the usual leftwing horseshit when they claim US foreign policy is so evil.

 

[RandomPoster]

Cuba's average weekly wage of 1958 compares more favorably to the average wage of USA of the time than Mexico's average wage of today does to the USA's average wage of today. In other words, Cuba was closer to the USA economically in 1958 than either Cuba or Mexico are today. More specifically, Cuba was one heck of a lot closer to the USA economically in the 1950s than they are today on every measure by a far margin. I wonder how they fell behind Mexico.

 

[the other mike]

Joined on April Fools Day ^^ Of course he did.

 

[RandomPoster]

U.S. Secretly Gave Aid to Iraq Early in Its War Against Iran

They provided some intelligence. You would have preferred to have Iran win that war?

You're a fucking moron. You're spouting all the usual leftwing horseshit when they claim US foreign policy is so evil.

Those lefists helped put Khomeini in charge in Iran. The Shah of Iran, for any faults he may have had, was much better for the world than Khomeini.

 

[the other mike]

U.S. Secretly Gave Aid to Iraq Early in Its War Against Iran

They provided some intelligence. You would have preferred to have Iran win that war?

You're a fucking moron. You're spouting all the usual leftwing horseshit when they claim US foreign policy is so evil.

Those lefists helped put Khomeini in charge in Iran. The Shah of Iran, for any faults he may have had, was much better for the world than Khomeini.

George HW Bush's CIA and the Contras paid for from his drugs from Noriega.

 

[bripat9643]

Joined on April Fools Day ^^ Of course he did.

ROFL! You are a fool. Everything you've posted in the last day has been idiotic.

Did you use a camera to take a pic of the screen? Don't you know how to do a screen capture?

 

[bripat9643]

U.S. Secretly Gave Aid to Iraq Early in Its War Against Iran

They provided some intelligence. You would have preferred to have Iran win that war?

You're a fucking moron. You're spouting all the usual leftwing horseshit when they claim US foreign policy is so evil.

Those lefists helped put Khomeini in charge in Iran. The Shah of Iran, for any faults he may have had, was much better for the world than Khomeini.

Yep. The leftists attack American support of "dictators" and then get something 1000 times worse. There's no way to calculate the damage these morons have done to the world.