Andrea Mitchell says affirmative action does NOT harm whites!!!!!

[IM2]

I can support what I say, but again you guys make all kinds of comments about blacks, unsupported, never ask for supporting evidence and than you want me to show you all kinds of evidence because you don't want to believe the facts. This is not about my inability to show a mother fucking thing. It IS about me refusing to do so on the basis on which I explained Ito you. I said the money we make for others has not been integrated into our communities because it has not. Distressed communities include small all white rural farm towns, mining communities and poor white neighborhoods. You have accepted racist comments without question, that's why you are a racist. I have presented facts. I believe black businesses are about 7 percent of all businesses, but only get 1/2 of 1 percent of all receipts. We earn over 1.3 trillion dollars per year, most of it with white businesses and what we spend with those businesses and deposited in white banks is not returned equitably to our communities. Those are the facts. There is a reason why the fucking Community Reinvestment Act was passed idiot and there is a reason why it's still law.You want to argue with me about this? Find the facts yourself then present them to me.

Prejudicial, judgemental, and unsupported ... you've hit the trifecta.

Wrong. Words supported by facts. You just don't want to believe and until you start questioning the white racists here don't question me.

Quit whining --- you haven't legitimized a single comment you've made.

It's funny how whites like you see things. I am not whining. You are. I have made my position plain. I have stated the facts. I don't have to prove anything to you just because you want to believe some racist bullshit that tells you blacks aren't doing anything. So go fuck yourself.

You have NOT stated facts ... you have only stated your perception of what you believe to be facts. I welcome the opportunity to discuss your perceptions, and you should welcome the opportunity to educate.

I claimed nothing - I only asked you what you based your opinions on.

As for your pedantic and childish "go fuck yourself" - grow the hell up. If you aren't capable of having an intelligent and adult discussion, maybe you should just shut the hell up.

I've stated facts. Not my perceptions of anything. There are 2 million black owned businesses, those businesses do only make 1/2 of 1 percent of all receipts. We do earn 1.3 trillion most of which are in white banks, and white banks don't loan money to blacks as they should. We have that 1.3 trillion in taxable income we earn, and that money does not return to our community relative to essential services as they should. Those ae facts. You have spent no time in the black community, you have spent no time trying get funding for that community. You have not seen how city councils deny time after time initiatives which would help the black community proposed by lacks in those communities while providing funds to white agencies located outside of those commutes . So then until you do, shut up.

Because I am not obliged to give you anything extra because you choose not to believe what I said. You don't question the racist bullshit, so you don't get to question what I say.

 

[Spare_change]

YOU mad the claim. If you're too fucking lazy to provide it, it's not my place to do it for you. If you won't, your claim is dismissed.

I don't have to provide you with shit just because you don't want to believe something. I presented the facts. That means I have them. So if you don't believe them go find out for your mother fucking self.

You have it backwards. I don't believe you because you didn't provide proof of anything. You presented a statement. A statement isn't a fact unless it's proven.

You made a claim about your family knowing some lawyer. You provided a name of a lawyer and some dates. While the person may have existed, that's not the issue. The issue is whether or not your family knew the person. Nothing you provided does anything to back up that claim.

I don't give a fuck what you don't believe. I gave you the name of the lawyer and information that showed you he was one of the lawyers ont he Brown v Board case. I told you that my father was the pastor of a church the Scotts attended and that's how we knew them. My parents knew the Scotts and it doesn't matter what you believe. I explained to you exactly why the case was done as it was as told to me by Charles Scott, the lawyer on the Brown case. I think that's evidence enough. You don't have to believe it. Too fucking bad.

I know what you told me. I don't doubt, nor did I doubt, Charles Scott was a lawyer of one of the racist organizations around. In fact, I verified it. However, as hard as I try, I can't find a single bit of evidence to prove what you say about your family knowing him. That's the part where you've provided no evidence and none can be found.

You've given your opinion as to why the case was done while providing nothing to support that he actually told you. Do you have a video when it happened? A recording? It's not evidence because you say it is. If you don't understand that, you've provided evidence of your low intelligence.

You've verified nothing. I don't care what you can't find. Scott knew my mom, dad, grandmother and great uncle who was the main pastor at Truevine when we lived in Topeka. The Scotts knew many others too. I've shown you proof. I don't have to provide you with a video showing my family with the Scott family. I don't have to show you any video that shows you that what Scott said was true. The case was called Brown vs Topeka Board of Education. The case could have been taken to the supreme court for every single southern town or city. But Topeka was picked by the NAACP for the very reason I stated and that's the way it is as was told to us by Scott. You go find out for yourself if you don't believe me.

Furthermore, in my work in Topeka, I met Cheryl Brown Henderson one the children in the Brown case. She founded the Brown Foundation. We worked with her in some of our community endeavors. Not every body s a loser like you. Some of us here have accomplishments and we don't have tp show you them in order for you to believe they occurred.

Last the NAACP s not a racist organization. You name one policy or initative the NAACP has produced that was for denying whites opportunity. When you make comment about Scott working for the most racist organization, you show everyone that you are a person with NO intelligence at all.

Name-dropping.

Always an effective way to buttress an argument that you can't support by facts.

 

[IM2]

I don't have to provide you with shit just because you don't want to believe something. I presented the facts. That means I have them. So if you don't believe them go find out for your mother fucking self.

You have it backwards. I don't believe you because you didn't provide proof of anything. You presented a statement. A statement isn't a fact unless it's proven.

You made a claim about your family knowing some lawyer. You provided a name of a lawyer and some dates. While the person may have existed, that's not the issue. The issue is whether or not your family knew the person. Nothing you provided does anything to back up that claim.

I don't give a fuck what you don't believe. I gave you the name of the lawyer and information that showed you he was one of the lawyers ont he Brown v Board case. I told you that my father was the pastor of a church the Scotts attended and that's how we knew them. My parents knew the Scotts and it doesn't matter what you believe. I explained to you exactly why the case was done as it was as told to me by Charles Scott, the lawyer on the Brown case. I think that's evidence enough. You don't have to believe it. Too fucking bad.

I know what you told me. I don't doubt, nor did I doubt, Charles Scott was a lawyer of one of the racist organizations around. In fact, I verified it. However, as hard as I try, I can't find a single bit of evidence to prove what you say about your family knowing him. That's the part where you've provided no evidence and none can be found.

You've given your opinion as to why the case was done while providing nothing to support that he actually told you. Do you have a video when it happened? A recording? It's not evidence because you say it is. If you don't understand that, you've provided evidence of your low intelligence.

You've verified nothing. I don't care what you can't find. Scott knew my mom, dad, grandmother and great uncle who was the main pastor at Truevine when we lived in Topeka. The Scotts knew many others too. I've shown you proof. I don't have to provide you with a video showing my family with the Scott family. I don't have to show you any video that shows you that what Scott said was true. The case was called Brown vs Topeka Board of Education. The case could have been taken to the supreme court for every single southern town or city. But Topeka was picked by the NAACP for the very reason I stated and that's the way it is as was told to us by Scott. You go find out for yourself if you don't believe me.

Furthermore, in my work in Topeka, I met Cheryl Brown Henderson one the children in the Brown case. She founded the Brown Foundation. We worked with her in some of our community endeavors. Not every body s a loser like you. Some of us here have accomplishments and we don't have tp show you them in order for you to believe they occurred.

Last the NAACP s not a racist organization. You name one policy or initative the NAACP has produced that was for denying whites opportunity. When you make comment about Scott working for the most racist organization, you show everyone that you are a person with NO intelligence at all.

Name-dropping.

Always an effective way to buttress an argument that you can't support by facts.

That may be how it works for you, but I can support every word I say and name drop.

 

[AnomalousMaterial]

I love wordy blowhards with a superiority complex, y'know without people like you what else would I do with my free time?

But, now that you have gone down that road, you may be onto something..as of 2016 another group of Blacks have emerged as the most educated in America: Hold your hat...its..its....tap the spoiler for the clue

BLACK WOMEN

I think you and I need to discuss the quality of a college degree. I think you and I need a deeper understanding of how far removed a Bachelor's in X can be from a Bachelor's in Y.

I refer you to two primary source data sets from the Census Bureau,
Figure 2, page 4 and Table 3, page 7 of https://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/acs-18.pdf
and (just for fun) Figure 5, page 7 of https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2016/demo/p20-578.pdf
We'll dig into that one together at a later time, but,

In 2009 the Census Bureau reported that males overwhelmingly receive BS degrees and females overwhelmingly receive BA and B.Ed degrees, on a ratio of roughly 68% for the fields of true science in favor of men, with shockingly similar numbers of BA/B.Ed going to women. The major outlier statistic being "Science- and Engineering- related fields", which is most likely to mean (a majority of) occupational degrees in healthcare and similar occupational studies.

Further, we can see that of the 15% of black college attendees, 66% of those whom graduate are women.
We have ~66% of 66% of 15% of college graduates earning arts degrees and other occupational degrees. And that's just an estimate, because the Census Bureau did not break down sex distribution by field and race.

To call 10% of college graduates the most educated group in America by making the grave error of classifying all degrees as equal worth is at best a lack of understanding and at worst intentionally vague manipulation.

I query, do you think a holder of a bachelors in psychology is as intellectually achieved as a holder of a bachelors of a nuclear physics program?
How about comparing a journeyman boilermaker to a PhD of electrical engineering?

Note that I am not arguing the worth of these profession choices, I am arguing that there is not an equivalence of education between them.

 

[Conservative65]

YOU mad the claim. If you're too fucking lazy to provide it, it's not my place to do it for you. If you won't, your claim is dismissed.

I don't have to provide you with shit just because you don't want to believe something. I presented the facts. That means I have them. So if you don't believe them go find out for your mother fucking self.

You have it backwards. I don't believe you because you didn't provide proof of anything. You presented a statement. A statement isn't a fact unless it's proven.

You made a claim about your family knowing some lawyer. You provided a name of a lawyer and some dates. While the person may have existed, that's not the issue. The issue is whether or not your family knew the person. Nothing you provided does anything to back up that claim.

I don't give a fuck what you don't believe. I gave you the name of the lawyer and information that showed you he was one of the lawyers ont he Brown v Board case. I told you that my father was the pastor of a church the Scotts attended and that's how we knew them. My parents knew the Scotts and it doesn't matter what you believe. I explained to you exactly why the case was done as it was as told to me by Charles Scott, the lawyer on the Brown case. I think that's evidence enough. You don't have to believe it. Too fucking bad.

I know what you told me. I don't doubt, nor did I doubt, Charles Scott was a lawyer of one of the racist organizations around. In fact, I verified it. However, as hard as I try, I can't find a single bit of evidence to prove what you say about your family knowing him. That's the part where you've provided no evidence and none can be found.

You've given your opinion as to why the case was done while providing nothing to support that he actually told you. Do you have a video when it happened? A recording? It's not evidence because you say it is. If you don't understand that, you've provided evidence of your low intelligence.

You've verified nothing. I don't care what you can't find. Scott knew my mom, dad, grandmother and great uncle who was the main pastor at Truevine when we lived in Topeka. The Scotts knew many others too. I've shown you proof. I don't have to provide you with a video showing my family with the Scott family. I don't have to show you any video that shows you that what Scott said was true. The case was called Brown vs Topeka Board of Education. The case could have been taken to the supreme court for every single southern town or city. But Topeka was picked by the NAACP for the very reason I stated and that's the way it is as was told to us by Scott. You go find out for yourself if you don't believe me.

Furthermore, in my work in Topeka, I met Cheryl Brown Henderson one the children in the Brown case. She founded the Brown Foundation. We worked with her in some of our community endeavors. Not every body s a loser like you. Some of us here have accomplishments and we don't have tp show you them in order for you to believe they occurred.

Last the NAACP s not a racist organization. You name one policy or initative the NAACP has produced that was for denying whites opportunity. When you make comment about Scott working for the most racist organization, you show everyone that you are a person with NO intelligence at all.

The only thing you stated that has been proven was that he was a NAACP lawyer. I don't disagree with that.

If you can't provide PROOF of your claim about your family knowing him or that you met Henderson, all you have is baseless claims.

That the NAACP supports affirmative action is all one needs to know to know they are racists. When you support a policy like AA which uses the very characteristic you say is wrong to use to deny, not only is that hypocritical, it's racist.

If you want to support AA, that's fine. All you're telling me is that you believe those benefitting from it CAN'T do to the level of those to whom it doesn't apply. I'm OK knowing that I am where I am because of WHAT I can do while knowing that those benefitting from AA have to rely on something with which they were born and had to do nothing to get.

 

[Conservative65]

You made the demand. You failed to man up and back it up. That's all I expected of you and you failed me, BOY. Typical n*gger.

Internet balls again. You claim to work so hard, so then go do the hard work I have done to find out the facts I presented. Don't wait for me to give you something. Why do you want this handout? Learn something for yourself. After all, if you can go look for all those so called facts about black men making bastards, you can find out everything else.

It would be a handout if I did it for you since I didn't make the claim.

I made the claim about black babies being bastards AND provided supporting evidence. See how that works. No, you probably don't since you come from a group that has an average 85 IQ. An IQ of 85 is considered dullness. It's not but 5 points away from the range of borderline deficiency.

You did not provide any facts about black babies being bastards. That in itself is a fact less claim. IQ tests have been shown not to prove intelligence. What you have done is make racist claims. So if you can go find bullshit in order to make fact less claims, you can go look for the facts I presented. Because no matter what kind of childish shit you try, that's how we are going to play.

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You made the demand. You failed to man up and back it up. That's all I expected of you and you failed me, BOY. Typical n*gger.

Internet balls again. You claim to work so hard, so then go do the hard work I have done to find out the facts I presented. Don't wait for me to give you something. Why do you want this handout? Learn something for yourself. After all, if you can go look for all those so called facts about black men making bastards, you can find out everything else.

It would be a handout if I did it for you since I didn't make the claim.

I made the claim about black babies being bastards AND provided supporting evidence. See how that works. No, you probably don't since you come from a group that has an average 85 IQ. An IQ of 85 is considered dullness. It's not but 5 points away from the range of borderline deficiency.

You did not provide any facts about black babies being bastards. That in itself is a fact less claim. IQ tests have been shown not to prove intelligence. What you have done is make racist claims. So if you can go find bullshit in order to make fact less claims, you can go look for the facts I presented. Because no matter what kind of childish shit you try, that's how we are going to play.

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Those facts have been posted on this forum to the dismay of those that didn't believe them.

IQ tests do prove intelligence, at least one measure of it. They show reasoning and thinking ability. They separate those that can figure out things and think from those that have to be told how to do something because they're ability to figure it out is low.

I'm not telling you to find the proof. I've posted it. However, you're telling me to go find something you won't post.

IQ tests prove nothing but what a person can recall from 9am -12noon on a Saturday morning. You've posted no proof, you posted something that supports your racist biases. There is a difference.

I posted proof of what I said. You don't like it because it verifies my claim about how blacks, as a group, are less intelligent due to an average 85 IQ level.

 

[Conservative65]

You have it backwards. I don't believe you because you didn't provide proof of anything. You presented a statement. A statement isn't a fact unless it's proven.

You made a claim about your family knowing some lawyer. You provided a name of a lawyer and some dates. While the person may have existed, that's not the issue. The issue is whether or not your family knew the person. Nothing you provided does anything to back up that claim.

I don't give a fuck what you don't believe. I gave you the name of the lawyer and information that showed you he was one of the lawyers ont he Brown v Board case. I told you that my father was the pastor of a church the Scotts attended and that's how we knew them. My parents knew the Scotts and it doesn't matter what you believe. I explained to you exactly why the case was done as it was as told to me by Charles Scott, the lawyer on the Brown case. I think that's evidence enough. You don't have to believe it. Too fucking bad.

I know what you told me. I don't doubt, nor did I doubt, Charles Scott was a lawyer of one of the racist organizations around. In fact, I verified it. However, as hard as I try, I can't find a single bit of evidence to prove what you say about your family knowing him. That's the part where you've provided no evidence and none can be found.

You've given your opinion as to why the case was done while providing nothing to support that he actually told you. Do you have a video when it happened? A recording? It's not evidence because you say it is. If you don't understand that, you've provided evidence of your low intelligence.

You've verified nothing. I don't care what you can't find. Scott knew my mom, dad, grandmother and great uncle who was the main pastor at Truevine when we lived in Topeka. The Scotts knew many others too. I've shown you proof. I don't have to provide you with a video showing my family with the Scott family. I don't have to show you any video that shows you that what Scott said was true. The case was called Brown vs Topeka Board of Education. The case could have been taken to the supreme court for every single southern town or city. But Topeka was picked by the NAACP for the very reason I stated and that's the way it is as was told to us by Scott. You go find out for yourself if you don't believe me.

Furthermore, in my work in Topeka, I met Cheryl Brown Henderson one the children in the Brown case. She founded the Brown Foundation. We worked with her in some of our community endeavors. Not every body s a loser like you. Some of us here have accomplishments and we don't have tp show you them in order for you to believe they occurred.

Last the NAACP s not a racist organization. You name one policy or initative the NAACP has produced that was for denying whites opportunity. When you make comment about Scott working for the most racist organization, you show everyone that you are a person with NO intelligence at all.

Name-dropping.

Always an effective way to buttress an argument that you can't support by facts.

That may be how it works for you, but I can support every word I say and name drop.

Where's the proof that your family knew the person you claim they knew? By the way, BOY, you saying it isn't proof.

 

[Conservative65]

I love wordy blowhards with a superiority complex, y'know without people like you what else would I do with my free time?

But, now that you have gone down that road, you may be onto something..as of 2016 another group of Blacks have emerged as the most educated in America: Hold your hat...its..its....tap the spoiler for the clue

BLACK WOMEN

I think you and I need to discuss the quality of a college degree. I think you and I need a deeper understanding of how far removed a Bachelor's in X can be from a Bachelor's in Y.

I refer you to two primary source data sets from the Census Bureau,
Figure 2, page 4 and Table 3, page 7 of https://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/acs-18.pdf
and (just for fun) Figure 5, page 7 of https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2016/demo/p20-578.pdf
We'll dig into that one together at a later time, but,

In 2009 the Census Bureau reported that males overwhelmingly receive BS degrees and females overwhelmingly receive BA and B.Ed degrees, on a ratio of roughly 68% for the fields of true science in favor of men, with shockingly similar numbers of BA/B.Ed going to women. The major outlier statistic being "Science- and Engineering- related fields", which is most likely to mean (a majority of) occupational degrees in healthcare and similar occupational studies.

Further, we can see that of the 15% of black college attendees, 66% of those whom graduate are women.
We have ~66% of 66% of 15% of college graduates earning arts degrees and other occupational degrees. And that's just an estimate, because the Census Bureau did not break down sex distribution by field and race.

To call 10% of college graduates the most educated group in America by making the grave error of classifying all degrees as equal worth is at best a lack of understanding and at worst intentionally vague manipulation.

I query, do you think a holder of a bachelors in psychology is as intellectually achieved as a holder of a bachelors of a nuclear physics program?
How about comparing a journeyman boilermaker to a PhD of electrical engineering?

Note that I am not arguing the worth of these profession choices, I am arguing that there is not an equivalence of education between them.

Some will tell you that the degree they received in General Studies, an actual degree at many places, is valuable. That degree reminds me of the storyline from the movie "Accepted" that came out several years ago.

 

[Spare_change]

You have it backwards. I don't believe you because you didn't provide proof of anything. You presented a statement. A statement isn't a fact unless it's proven.

You made a claim about your family knowing some lawyer. You provided a name of a lawyer and some dates. While the person may have existed, that's not the issue. The issue is whether or not your family knew the person. Nothing you provided does anything to back up that claim.

I don't give a fuck what you don't believe. I gave you the name of the lawyer and information that showed you he was one of the lawyers ont he Brown v Board case. I told you that my father was the pastor of a church the Scotts attended and that's how we knew them. My parents knew the Scotts and it doesn't matter what you believe. I explained to you exactly why the case was done as it was as told to me by Charles Scott, the lawyer on the Brown case. I think that's evidence enough. You don't have to believe it. Too fucking bad.

I know what you told me. I don't doubt, nor did I doubt, Charles Scott was a lawyer of one of the racist organizations around. In fact, I verified it. However, as hard as I try, I can't find a single bit of evidence to prove what you say about your family knowing him. That's the part where you've provided no evidence and none can be found.

You've given your opinion as to why the case was done while providing nothing to support that he actually told you. Do you have a video when it happened? A recording? It's not evidence because you say it is. If you don't understand that, you've provided evidence of your low intelligence.

You've verified nothing. I don't care what you can't find. Scott knew my mom, dad, grandmother and great uncle who was the main pastor at Truevine when we lived in Topeka. The Scotts knew many others too. I've shown you proof. I don't have to provide you with a video showing my family with the Scott family. I don't have to show you any video that shows you that what Scott said was true. The case was called Brown vs Topeka Board of Education. The case could have been taken to the supreme court for every single southern town or city. But Topeka was picked by the NAACP for the very reason I stated and that's the way it is as was told to us by Scott. You go find out for yourself if you don't believe me.

Furthermore, in my work in Topeka, I met Cheryl Brown Henderson one the children in the Brown case. She founded the Brown Foundation. We worked with her in some of our community endeavors. Not every body s a loser like you. Some of us here have accomplishments and we don't have tp show you them in order for you to believe they occurred.

Last the NAACP s not a racist organization. You name one policy or initative the NAACP has produced that was for denying whites opportunity. When you make comment about Scott working for the most racist organization, you show everyone that you are a person with NO intelligence at all.

Name-dropping.

Always an effective way to buttress an argument that you can't support by facts.

That may be how it works for you, but I can support every word I say and name drop.

"can" and "do" are two different things ... you claim one, but haven't done the other.

 

[ptbw forever]

Uh, I clearly posted a source.

I didn't call Blacks intelligent either, but merely pointed out that the Nigerian elite which is a fraction of Nigeria was disproportionately responsible for the high number of years of education completed in Nigerian Americans.

So what.? ASIANS have been sending their best and brightest too. So where was your proportional argument then?
You just hate Blacks to the extent that you will never accept any positive achievements they make. And you are not alone. Hundreds of racist authors have responded with frivolous rebuttals
and pseudo scientific reasoning to explain away their worst nightmare: the unveiling of superintelligent Africans.
But even in the segregated history of this nation many Black American achievements should have predicted the hidden human talent that would one day rise from the dark continent. The Tuskeegee airmen....Vivian Thomas...
Ben Carson...George Washington Carver..and other. Black contributors to this great nation, in effect, prophesied the present phenomenon.

The larger significance, though, is that Black Africans have elevated themselves beyond the stereotypical view relegating the lot of them to universal mental inferiority. These modern day high achlevers have all but validated the argument that their ancestors or people like them kick started civilization in ancient KMT which fell as did the later Greco-Roman Empire which supplanted them.

Asian Americans are actually dumber than the elite in Asia.

Asians who come here merely had the money to do so, while Asians who are recognized as the intellectual elite in Asian countries actually had to prove that they are just that, multiple times.

Rote Is Rot

Being able to memorize Confucius is what stupid people think is an intellectual achievement.

I was talking about the numerous tests with strict requirements that the future Chinese intellectual has to excel at.

Smart Asians in Asia don't even have the dumbest of their society to run over(like Asian Americans can run over 1st generation Hispanics and inner city blacks)because most dumb Asians aren't even allowed schooling.

They run over White people, too, proving that COLLEGE IS FOR COOLIES. Brownnosing class-climbers who have no pride is what the economic bullies want.

They run over the average white liberal moron, but the most intelligent white people consistently do better than them(from numerous angles).

 

[ptbw forever]

Our colleges are full of black athletes that are illiterate. And even many black non-athletes are illiterate. And thanks to affirmative action grading, they will graduate!!!

That's not most blacks, you idiot.
Many of the blacks in college these days are African immigrants, and they're the top acsdemic achievers in the nation....including Asians.



there are tasting even the

There are far more dumbass black Americans who think they can be lawyers with a 4th grade literacy level.

liar. Name one!

My old roommate, just as one example.