And you want $15 an hour?

[SAYIT]

Sadly, there are very few jobs available with advancement opportunity anymore.

There are very few jobs available that even provide a middle class lifestyle. We've decimated our country with both outsourcing and insourcing.

We've certainly chased away investment dollars and jobs with regressive gov't regulations and taxes and unions haven't helped but there are still plenty of advancement opportunities for those with ambition and skills.

Bulcrap. The bell is not as big as it once was, admit it. We have far more at either end than we have in the middle.

I repeat: "We've certainly chased away investment dollars and jobs with regressive gov't regulations and taxes and unions haven't helped..."
That means there would be more jobs and opportunities but we've shot ourselves in the foot by allowing gov't and unions to screw things up.
That said there are still plenty of advancement opportunities for those with ambition and skills. Perhaps that's just not you.

 

[SAYIT]

Sadly, there are very few jobs available with advancement opportunity anymore.

There are very few jobs available that even provide a middle class lifestyle. We've decimated our country with both outsourcing and insourcing.

We've certainly chased away investment dollars and jobs with regressive gov't regulations and taxes and unions haven't helped but there are still plenty of advancement opportunities for those with ambition and skills.

What regressive regulations, exactly?

When were corporate taxes lower?

When have unions had less influence?

Three strikes.

I will answer all your questions but first you must answer one of mine:
Are you really dim enough not to recognize the negative impact of gov't and unions on business or are you just an obtuse twit?

 

[LoneLaugher]

We've certainly chased away investment dollars and jobs with regressive gov't regulations and taxes and unions haven't helped but there are still plenty of advancement opportunities for those with ambition and skills.

What regressive regulations, exactly?

When were corporate taxes lower?

When have unions had less influence?

Three strikes.

I will answer all your questions but first you must answer one of mine:
Are you really dim enough not to recognize the negative impact of gov't and unions on business or are you just an obtuse twit?

Without government there would be no business. Businesses need to be regulated. Union strength does not indicate a weak business environment. Unions are weaker now than they have ever been.

You haven't substantiated a single thing you said.

What specific government regulations have hurt business. You will need some numbers to support that particular claim.

Corporate taxes are as low now as they have ever been.

You have anything?

 

[Againsheila]

Sadly, there are very few jobs available with advancement opportunity anymore.

There are very few jobs available that even provide a middle class lifestyle. We've decimated our country with both outsourcing and insourcing.

We've certainly chased away investment dollars and jobs with regressive gov't regulations and taxes and unions haven't helped but there are still plenty of advancement opportunities for those with ambition and skills.

What regressive regulations, exactly?

When were corporate taxes lower?

When have unions had less influence?

Three strikes.

Changes in corporate law in the 70's is what caused our factories to go overseas. It's a really bad mistake too, when WWII happen our factories were quickly retooled. Today, there aren't enough factories here and we are so dependent on imports that we will be destroyed with WWIII

 

[SAYIT]

We've certainly chased away investment dollars and jobs with regressive gov't regulations and taxes and unions haven't helped but there are still plenty of advancement opportunities for those with ambition and skills.

What regressive regulations, exactly?

When were corporate taxes lower?

When have unions had less influence?

Three strikes.

Changes in corporate law in the 70's is what caused our factories to go overseas. It's a really bad mistake too, when WWII happen our factories were quickly retooled. Today, there aren't enough factories here and we are so dependent on imports that we will be destroyed with WWIII

You may be on to something. What changes to corp law do you believe caused investment in American factories to go overseas?

 

[SAYIT]

What regressive regulations, exactly?

When were corporate taxes lower?

When have unions had less influence?

Three strikes.

I will answer all your questions but first you must answer one of mine:
Are you really dim enough not to recognize the negative impact of gov't and unions on business or are you just an obtuse twit?

Without government there would be no business. Businesses need to be regulated. Union strength does not indicate a weak business environment. Unions are weaker now than they have ever been.

You haven't substantiated a single thing you said.

What specific government regulations have hurt business. You will need some numbers to support that particular claim.

Corporate taxes are as low now as they have ever been.

You have anything?

In fact I have tons but I have a hard time believing you are as dim as your questions make you seem so I'm thinking my answers will just fall on a deaf troll's ears.

As for substantiation, little more than an hour ago when the validity of your unsubstantiated Bloomberg claims were challenged you responded with: "Those are facts."
How conveeenient.
Two can play your little game, Princess.

 

[Indeependent]

What regressive regulations, exactly?

When were corporate taxes lower?

When have unions had less influence?

Three strikes.

Changes in corporate law in the 70's is what caused our factories to go overseas. It's a really bad mistake too, when WWII happen our factories were quickly retooled. Today, there aren't enough factories here and we are so dependent on imports that we will be destroyed with WWIII

You may be on to something. What changes to corp law do you believe caused investment in American factories to go overseas?

Being able to write-off the moving expenses.
Having your business in China and India saves on wages, health care, pensions and vacation time.
The fact is that the US is an ever shrinking HUB of MNCs that will quickly go broke and the rest of the world will drown along with us.

You haven't answered the question because you can't.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I will answer all your questions but first you must answer one of mine:
Are you really dim enough not to recognize the negative impact of gov't and unions on business or are you just an obtuse twit?

Without government there would be no business. Businesses need to be regulated. Union strength does not indicate a weak business environment. Unions are weaker now than they have ever been.

You haven't substantiated a single thing you said.

What specific government regulations have hurt business. You will need some numbers to support that particular claim.

Corporate taxes are as low now as they have ever been.

You have anything?

In fact I have tons but I have a hard time believing you are as dim as your questions make you seem so I'm thinking my answers will just fall on a deaf troll's ears.

As for substantiation, little more than an hour ago when the validity of your unsubstantiated Bloomberg claims were challenged you responded with: "Those are facts."
How conveeenient.
Two can play your little game, Princess.

Pick a college. Any college. I will then prove to you that the students there are exposed to differing opinions on a regular basis.

On THIS topic.....you have yet to support your claims. Any of them.

 

[LoneLaugher]

We've certainly chased away investment dollars and jobs with regressive gov't regulations and taxes and unions haven't helped but there are still plenty of advancement opportunities for those with ambition and skills.

What regressive regulations, exactly?

When were corporate taxes lower?

When have unions had less influence?

Three strikes.

Changes in corporate law in the 70's is what caused our factories to go overseas. It's a really bad mistake too, when WWII happen our factories were quickly retooled. Today, there aren't enough factories here and we are so dependent on imports that we will be destroyed with WWIII

That would be DE-regulation, not regulation. And the eroding of trade protection agreements. We need to protect our greatest resource.....our labor force. Free trade sounds great....but it fucked the American middle class over real good.

 

[Indeependent]

What regressive regulations, exactly?

When were corporate taxes lower?

When have unions had less influence?

Three strikes.

Changes in corporate law in the 70's is what caused our factories to go overseas. It's a really bad mistake too, when WWII happen our factories were quickly retooled. Today, there aren't enough factories here and we are so dependent on imports that we will be destroyed with WWIII

That would be DE-regulation, not regulation. And the eroding of trade protection agreements. We need to protect our greatest resource.....our labor force. Free trade sounds great....but it fucked the American middle class over real good.

Those who started investing every discretionary penny they had back in the 80s are doing quite well today as they see the ever widening gap of the great divide in society.

The US is like a gambling casino.

 

[SAYIT]

Changes in corporate law in the 70's is what caused our factories to go overseas. It's a really bad mistake too, when WWII happen our factories were quickly retooled. Today, there aren't enough factories here and we are so dependent on imports that we will be destroyed with WWIII

You may be on to something. What changes to corp law do you believe caused investment in American factories to go overseas?

Being able to write-off the moving expenses.
Having your business in China and India saves on wages, health care, pensions and vacation time.
The fact is that the US is an ever shrinking HUB of MNCs that will quickly go broke and the rest of the world will drown along with us.

You haven't answered the question because you can't.

Let's stop being silly, shall we? Corp tax is higher here than pretty much anywhere on the planet but as we all know it doesn't end there. State and local taxes as well as real estate taxes when combined with gov't regulation and arcane union rules and demands have forced whole industries to abandon not just cities (see: Detroit) and states but entire regions (see: auto industry) and even this country. Investment capital is fungible and rightly goes where it will most benefit the investor. It's not your money and it's not your decision regardless of how much socialists want to believe otherwise.

 

[Againsheila]

What regressive regulations, exactly?

When were corporate taxes lower?

When have unions had less influence?

Three strikes.

Changes in corporate law in the 70's is what caused our factories to go overseas. It's a really bad mistake too, when WWII happen our factories were quickly retooled. Today, there aren't enough factories here and we are so dependent on imports that we will be destroyed with WWIII

You may be on to something. What changes to corp law do you believe caused investment in American factories to go overseas?

It's been so long, I've forgotten a lot of the details. You do realize that was 40 years ago, right? But check your history, it was in the 70's that our corporations started to leave and the 80's they started leaving even faster because our government gave them tax subsidies, supposedly to built up economies in 3rd world nations, but they went around that and got guarantees from the countries government that there would be no unions and the wages would be guaranteed to be really low (I think it was 17 cent an hour back then). Cardboard cities sprouted up in Mexico along the border. Mostly women were hired as women are less likely to form a union and anyone that mentioned it turned up dead. Al Gore said when Clinton was elected, they'd stop those incentives but they never did.

Zenith was the last TV manufacturer to leave the states. They said they couldn't compete with the others.

 

[Againsheila]

You may be on to something. What changes to corp law do you believe caused investment in American factories to go overseas?

Being able to write-off the moving expenses.
Having your business in China and India saves on wages, health care, pensions and vacation time.
The fact is that the US is an ever shrinking HUB of MNCs that will quickly go broke and the rest of the world will drown along with us.

You haven't answered the question because you can't.

Let's stop being silly, shall we? Corp tax is higher here than pretty much anywhere on the planet but as we all know it doesn't end there. State and local taxes as well as real estate taxes when combined with gov't regulation and arcane union rules and demands have forced whole industries to abandon not just cities (see: Detroit) and states but entire regions (see: auto industry) and even this country. Investment capital is fungible and rightly goes where it will most benefit the investor. It's not your money and it's not your decision regardless of how much socialists want to believe otherwise.

Corporate taxes were much higher in the 60's and our corporations weren't leaving us in droves.

 

[Indeependent]

You may be on to something. What changes to corp law do you believe caused investment in American factories to go overseas?

Being able to write-off the moving expenses.
Having your business in China and India saves on wages, health care, pensions and vacation time.
The fact is that the US is an ever shrinking HUB of MNCs that will quickly go broke and the rest of the world will drown along with us.

You haven't answered the question because you can't.

Let's stop being silly, shall we? Corp tax is higher here than pretty much anywhere on the planet but as we all know it doesn't end there. State and local taxes as well as real estate taxes when combined with gov't regulation and arcane union rules and demands have forced whole industries to abandon not just cities (see: Detroit) and states but entire regions (see: auto industry) and even this country. Investment capital is fungible and rightly goes where it will most benefit the investor. It's not your money and it's not your decision regardless of how much socialists want to believe otherwise.

Name 3 regulations that hamper your particular industry and explain why.
I do this all the time and I can't get a straight answer from anybody regardless of party.

 

[MaryL]

Went to McDonald's for lunch today. No protesters to be seen btw. I ordered a number 7 meal, large with a Diet Coke and a Happy Meal cheeseburger for a girl. Thinking that I also wanted a small mcnuggets, I asked what sizes that they come in. The lady said 4, 6, and 10. "I'll take a 4 piece please."

I get my order and she hands me two large drink cups. Then she asks me what drink I wanted with my happy meal. I didn't know what to say since she was just going to give me an empty cup for me to fill.

At this point, voices in my head should have told me to check my order, but the voices failed. When I got back home they didnt give me my 4 piece but instead put the four piece in the happy meal and the child didnt get her cheeseburger. Practically the entire order was screwed up.

How does anyone deserve to double their salary when they perform their job so badly? It's nonsense.

People died in Afghanistan for this thread. ALL people screw up, even rich entitled ones. ( Robert McNamara comes to mind). Let's also point out that the cost of living also goes up after "they" jack up the minimum wage. They cut off the tail, glue it to the nose and say it's longer. And so it goes.

 

[Papageorgio]

Then you buy the medium, or go elsewhere.

Wow! Typical fast food employee response. I rarely go to McDonald's, it is amusing they don't have a small, only a medium and a large. Of course a racist like yourself tends to be ignorant.


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Did I miss something? When was race brought into this?

Noomi believes in fair wages and is against all racism and bigotry unless it is of course Indians, they seem to be lesser people to them that take jobs.


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[OnePercenter]

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So what happens when the 7.50 an hour crowd gets 15.00 an hour?

Does everyone else get a 7.50 and hour raise?, those that make 10.00 will make 17.50, those that make 15.00 will make 22.50?

In the end the minimum wage crowd will be in the same boat as everyone will get raises and all goods and services will cost more....

Minimum wage is not meant to be a lifelong salary, but I can name a few people that have had over a dozen jobs in less than a year, I guarantee they are not worth 5.00 an hour.

I also know 3 people that started out at minimum wage at McDonalds and Wendys, after 2-3 years all of them were promoted to managers and are now making over 40k a year, it is mainly about work ethic, have none and you may stay at 7.50 an hour for life.

But like so many things, the Politicians want to make a big deal of things so they can win some votes from ignorant people

Why would you want to pay crap for the people that make you all of your money?

The problem is when unskilled workers make 31,200.00 a year (15.00 per hr) and the pay rises for every other worker in line to compensate for minimum wage pay hikes, everything people purchase will cost more, thus hurting the low income and fixed income people.

An E3 Private in the Military median Salary is 18k a year, an E5 Sergent median salary is 27k per year, you want a burger flipper to make 31k a year?

Don't those comparables include room and board?

 

[Flopper]

Went to McDonald's for lunch today. No protesters to be seen btw. I ordered a number 7 meal, large with a Diet Coke and a Happy Meal cheeseburger for a girl. Thinking that I also wanted a small mcnuggets, I asked what sizes that they come in. The lady said 4, 6, and 10. "I'll take a 4 piece please."

I get my order and she hands me two large drink cups. Then she asks me what drink I wanted with my happy meal. I didn't know what to say since she was just going to give me an empty cup for me to fill.

At this point, voices in my head should have told me to check my order, but the voices failed. When I got back home they didnt give me my 4 piece but instead put the four piece in the happy meal and the child didnt get her cheeseburger. Practically the entire order was screwed up.

How does anyone deserve to double their salary when they perform their job so badly? It's nonsense.

I had a plumber come out to fix a leak. I paid him a lot more than $15/hr. He didn't fix shit. Then when I called him, he said couldn't be out for 3 days. Was he worth what I paid him? Of course not, but that doesn't mean other plumbers aren't. Everyone screws up. regardless of what they are paid.

 

[OnePercenter]

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So what happens when the 7.50 an hour crowd gets 15.00 an hour?

Does everyone else get a 7.50 and hour raise?, those that make 10.00 will make 17.50, those that make 15.00 will make 22.50?

In the end the minimum wage crowd will be in the same boat as everyone will get raises and all goods and services will cost more....

Minimum wage is not meant to be a lifelong salary, but I can name a few people that have had over a dozen jobs in less than a year, I guarantee they are not worth 5.00 an hour.

I also know 3 people that started out at minimum wage at McDonalds and Wendys, after 2-3 years all of them were promoted to managers and are now making over 40k a year, it is mainly about work ethic, have none and you may stay at 7.50 an hour for life.

But like so many things, the Politicians want to make a big deal of things so they can win some votes from ignorant people

Why would you want to pay crap for the people that make you all of your money?

Not that I want to bust your fantasy, but min wage earners are hardly the rainmakers in any company and are generally easily replaceable. Wanna make more? Develop some SKILLS.

Employees, no matter income, make all the money for the company.

 

[OnePercenter]

Being able to write-off the moving expenses.
Having your business in China and India saves on wages, health care, pensions and vacation time.
The fact is that the US is an ever shrinking HUB of MNCs that will quickly go broke and the rest of the world will drown along with us.

You haven't answered the question because you can't.

Let's stop being silly, shall we? Corp tax is higher here than pretty much anywhere on the planet but as we all know it doesn't end there. State and local taxes as well as real estate taxes when combined with gov't regulation and arcane union rules and demands have forced whole industries to abandon not just cities (see: Detroit) and states but entire regions (see: auto industry) and even this country. Investment capital is fungible and rightly goes where it will most benefit the investor. It's not your money and it's not your decision regardless of how much socialists want to believe otherwise.

Name 3 regulations that hamper your particular industry and explain why.
I do this all the time and I can't get a straight answer from anybody regardless of party.

Good luck with that. Some dumb ass on here thought that fire sprinklers were to put out fires.