And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought

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"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven."



Revelation 12:7-8

How in God's Holy Name can Michael have his 'own' angels? Don't all angels belong unto God and HIS Christ?

How in God's Holy Name can the dragon have 'HIS' own angels?

Are Michael's angels, angels who have chosen to follow Michael instead of God just like the dragon's angels are angels who have chosen to follow the dragon instead of God?

Daniel 12:1

"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

How in God's Holy Name can it be said that Daniel has 'his' people? The great prince which stands for the children of 'YOUR' people? What is 'YOUR' people about if Israel is God's People and God's special Inheritance? Is Daniel God for Israel to be called 'Your' people?

Luke 1: 26

"And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,"

How in God's Holy Name can there be a Gabriel in Nazareth proclaiming Christ and also have a Gabriel in Islam proclaiming Allah with no Son?
 
"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven."



Revelation 12:7-8

How in God's Holy Name can Michael have his 'own' angels? Don't all angels belong unto God and HIS Christ?

How in God's Holy Name can the dragon have 'HIS' own angels?

Are Michael's angels, angels who have chosen to follow Michael instead of God just like the dragon's angels are angels who have chosen to follow the dragon instead of God?

Daniel 12:1

"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

How in God's Holy Name can it be said that Daniel has 'his' people? The great prince which stands for the children of 'YOUR' people? What is 'YOUR' people about if Israel is God's People and God's special Inheritance? Is Daniel God for Israel to be called 'Your' people?

Luke 1: 26

"And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,"

How in God's Holy Name can there be a Gabriel in Nazareth proclaiming Christ and also have a Gabriel in Islam proclaiming Allah with no Son?
Sounds like Michael is the commander of a regiment of angels. Of course, that is a common sense reading of "Michael and his angels".
 
Have you never worked for a company of any size?

At the top, there's a CEO and a Board of Directors. Below them, there are managers of each department, and below them, managers of divisions within each apartment.

As one of the workers at the bottom of that structure, the CEO could claim you as one of his people, but so could your immediate manager, his manager,and so on, all the way up the chain.
 
"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven."



Revelation 12:7-8

How in God's Holy Name can Michael have his 'own' angels? Don't all angels belong unto God and HIS Christ?

How in God's Holy Name can the dragon have 'HIS' own angels?

Are Michael's angels, angels who have chosen to follow Michael instead of God just like the dragon's angels are angels who have chosen to follow the dragon instead of God?

Daniel 12:1

"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

How in God's Holy Name can it be said that Daniel has 'his' people? The great prince which stands for the children of 'YOUR' people? What is 'YOUR' people about if Israel is God's People and God's special Inheritance? Is Daniel God for Israel to be called 'Your' people?

Luke 1: 26

"And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,"

How in God's Holy Name can there be a Gabriel in Nazareth proclaiming Christ and also have a Gabriel in Islam proclaiming Allah with no Son?
so where do the unicorns come in?
 
"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven."



Revelation 12:7-8

How in God's Holy Name can Michael have his 'own' angels? Don't all angels belong unto God and HIS Christ?

How in God's Holy Name can the dragon have 'HIS' own angels?

Are Michael's angels, angels who have chosen to follow Michael instead of God just like the dragon's angels are angels who have chosen to follow the dragon instead of God?

Daniel 12:1

"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

How in God's Holy Name can it be said that Daniel has 'his' people? The great prince which stands for the children of 'YOUR' people? What is 'YOUR' people about if Israel is God's People and God's special Inheritance? Is Daniel God for Israel to be called 'Your' people?

Luke 1: 26

"And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,"

How in God's Holy Name can there be a Gabriel in Nazareth proclaiming Christ and also have a Gabriel in Islam proclaiming Allah with no Son?
Sounds like Michael is the commander of a regiment of angels. Of course, that is a common sense reading of "Michael and his angels".


That's what I thought. God gave Michael his own angels to do with them as Michael sees fit.
 
Have you never worked for a company of any size?

At the top, there's a CEO and a Board of Directors. Below them, there are managers of each department, and below them, managers of divisions within each apartment.

As one of the workers at the bottom of that structure, the CEO could claim you as one of his people, but so could your immediate manager, his manager,and so on, all the way up the chain.

So if Heaven is like a company, when war broke out in Heaven, the war was in the hierarchy of Michael and his angels and not the WHOLE company?
 
That means that if they 'beat' Michael and his angels, that the 'evil' ones would have advanced onto the next level for another war... But since God is ALL wise, He nipped it at the hierarchy of Michael's jurisdiction.
 
But besides, who is 'Thy People' as addressed to Daniel? Daniel's ethnicity ? So 'MY' people would be others of the same ethnicity? That would mean I have a peoples under MY jurisdiction?
 
But besides, who is 'Thy People' as addressed to Daniel? Daniel's ethnicity ? So 'MY' people would be others of the same ethnicity? That would mean I have a peoples under MY jurisdiction?

My, Yours, Mine, His, Her... etc.... are all possessive, and not general to all.
 
So, it is either God has given some over to the jurisdiction and 'rule' to certain individuals or All still belongs unto God and His Christ and Holy Spirit. I never heard of displacing of Authority by God regarding His Kingdom.
 
Is there a difference between 'skimming' through Sacred Texts and digging deeper into Sacred Texts?
 
"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven."



Revelation 12:7-8

How in God's Holy Name can Michael have his 'own' angels? Don't all angels belong unto God and HIS Christ?

How in God's Holy Name can the dragon have 'HIS' own angels?

Are Michael's angels, angels who have chosen to follow Michael instead of God just like the dragon's angels are angels who have chosen to follow the dragon instead of God?

Daniel 12:1

"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

How in God's Holy Name can it be said that Daniel has 'his' people? The great prince which stands for the children of 'YOUR' people? What is 'YOUR' people about if Israel is God's People and God's special Inheritance? Is Daniel God for Israel to be called 'Your' people?

Luke 1: 26

"And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,"

How in God's Holy Name can there be a Gabriel in Nazareth proclaiming Christ and also have a Gabriel in Islam proclaiming Allah with no Son?
Sounds like Michael is the commander of a regiment of angels. Of course, that is a common sense reading of "Michael and his angels".


That's what I thought. God gave Michael his own angels to do with them as Michael sees fit.

Michael is serving God, as are the angels under Michael's command. That's what you thought? Good for you.
 
Would Michael be allowed to kill innocent people who have ideas and thoughts of their own?
 
So Michael, who serves God, would be similar to Jesus, who served God. Which means that since Jesus did not kill innocent people, nor would Michael.
 
"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven."



Revelation 12:7-8

How in God's Holy Name can Michael have his 'own' angels? Don't all angels belong unto God and HIS Christ?

How in God's Holy Name can the dragon have 'HIS' own angels?

Are Michael's angels, angels who have chosen to follow Michael instead of God just like the dragon's angels are angels who have chosen to follow the dragon instead of God?

Daniel 12:1

"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

How in God's Holy Name can it be said that Daniel has 'his' people? The great prince which stands for the children of 'YOUR' people? What is 'YOUR' people about if Israel is God's People and God's special Inheritance? Is Daniel God for Israel to be called 'Your' people?

Luke 1: 26

"And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,"

How in God's Holy Name can there be a Gabriel in Nazareth proclaiming Christ and also have a Gabriel in Islam proclaiming Allah with no Son?
Michael was an Arch Angel....one of the higher ones....
 
"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven."



Revelation 12:7-8

How in God's Holy Name can Michael have his 'own' angels? Don't all angels belong unto God and HIS Christ?

How in God's Holy Name can the dragon have 'HIS' own angels?

Are Michael's angels, angels who have chosen to follow Michael instead of God just like the dragon's angels are angels who have chosen to follow the dragon instead of God?

Daniel 12:1

"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

How in God's Holy Name can it be said that Daniel has 'his' people? The great prince which stands for the children of 'YOUR' people? What is 'YOUR' people about if Israel is God's People and God's special Inheritance? Is Daniel God for Israel to be called 'Your' people?

Luke 1: 26

"And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,"

How in God's Holy Name can there be a Gabriel in Nazareth proclaiming Christ and also have a Gabriel in Islam proclaiming Allah with no Son?
Michael was an Arch Angel....one of the higher ones....

If you know about the hierarchy in the Kingdom of God, then I guess you're pretty well off, spiritually.
 
Maybe that's where the Military ways came onto Earth.. A replication of the 'classes' of commands which is in Heaven.
 
So this would mean that the Chief Executive of War on earth would be the same as God in Heaven?
 
And would that make Michael the General to the Military or a member on the Joint of Staff? Which level in Military would Michael be in?
 

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