And so it begins.

[fncceo]

mkay

The two-party system is such a joke.

How many parties would you prefer?

One? Or fifty-one?

 

[dblack]

How many parties would you prefer?

One? Or fifty-one?

I'd prefer good parties. Ds and Rs have locked the system down so only they get to play, regardless of how shitty their candidates are. We need to break down that wall or we won't survive as a nation.

 

[fncceo]

I'd prefer good parties. Ds and Rs have locked the system down so only they get to play, regardless of how shitty their candidates are. We need to break down that wall or we won't survive as a nation.

If you want better candidates, you have to provide a job that someone better would like to do.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Funny

Been here the whole time.

I now get to watch the clown car show try to find someone to blame for the Shitler’s failures.

Sedatives are known to have delusional and even hallucinogenic side effects bro, flush the system really good with plenty of fluids, OJ, water, even coffee and soda, [but for goodness sake lay off the hooch]...but until then, enjoy your show bro.

 

[Dante]

How is that different than any other administration?

You can't be serious? Maybe a search engine could be your best friend saving you from embarrassment.

 

[dblack]

If you want better candidates, you have to provide a job that someone better would like to do.

Or, dismantle the apparatus that is offering up such shitty candidates.

 

[struth]

An obvious lie.

It wasn’t…Nov of 2022 is when he announced. The NY case alleged took place in 2016 and they waited until after he announced to bring the charges

 

[theHawk]

Wow, look at that orange makeup paint job.

Does he actually drive the clown car?

I knew the Orange would trigger you

 

[Papageorgio]

Trump transition figure warns DOJ lawyers: Get on board or get out

A conservative lawyer working on Donald Trump’s transition, Mark Paoletta, offered a stark warning to career Justice Department lawyers Monday that those who refuse to advance Trump’s agenda should resign or face the possibility of being fired.

“Once the decision is made to move forward, career employees are required to implement the President’s plan,” Paoletta wrote in a post on X responding to a POLITICO story detailing widespread fear among DOJ lawyers about being asked to advance or defend policies they consider unethical or illegal.

“If these career DOJ employees won’t implement President Trump’s program in good faith, they should leave,” Paoletta said. “Those employees who engage in so-called ‘resistance’ against the duly-elected President’s lawful agenda would be subverting American democracy (or upholding it). … [t]hose that take such actions would be subject to disciplinary measures, including termination.”

Paoletta recited a laundry list of Trump goals, including mass deportations, ending birthright citizenship, issuing pardons and commutations to Jan. 6 defendants, reversing “lawfare and persecution of political opponents,” and “holding accountable those who weaponized their government authority to abuse Americans.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updat...-paoletta-justice-department-lawyers-00188772

Let's begin with this, trump's goal coming in to the start of his admin is to purge the government of those viewed to be disloyal. This has been well advertised.

Now consider the ACLU plans to challenge the legality of trump using the law he plans to use to facilitate mass deportations.

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/i-heard-an-interesting-interview-with-the-head-of-the-aclu-yesterday.1134492/#post-35690588

If members of the DoJ agree with the ACLU's position, will they be fired before the matter can be adjudicated? Because it seems to me the admin is already looking for a pretense to fire people opposed to their policies...........policies which may be illegal.

In his first admin a number of high ranking DoJ officials said they world resign if Jeff Clark was made acting AG. No such officials will be part of the new admin if trump has his way.

To be clear, if DoJ employees try to block legal and ethical policy goals firing them is appropriate.

So he is doing what many Presidents have done, including Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton and more.

 

[berg80]

Funny

Been here the whole time.

I now get to watch the clown car show try to find someone to blame for the Shitler’s failures.

That will be a feature of his admin. Partly because, on a personal level, he is too weak to accept blame for failure. And partly because for this to work trump must be viewed as being infallible.

 

[berg80]

So he is doing what many Presidents have done, including Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton and more.

Nope. All incoming prez's replace the US Attorney's, though Biden kept Durham and Weiss on. What trump seeks to do is purge civil servants he perceives to have been disloyal to him by participating in his prosecutions.

 

[berg80]

Good advice and well within the power of The President.

As I've already stated, if DoJ employees will not do what they are asked for only political reasons they should rightly be fired. Their concerns have nothing to do with that.

 

[berg80]

It wasn’t…Nov of 2022 is when he announced. The NY case alleged took place in 2016 and they waited until after he announced to bring the charges

DoJ guidelines say a sitting prez can't be charged with a crime while in office.

 

[Mac-7]

Trump transition figure warns DOJ lawyers: Get on board or get out

A conservative lawyer working on Donald Trump’s transition, Mark Paoletta, offered a stark warning to career Justice Department lawyers Monday that those who refuse to advance Trump’s agenda should resign or face the possibility of being fired.

“Once the decision is made to move forward, career employees are required to implement the President’s plan,” Paoletta wrote in a post on X responding to a POLITICO story detailing widespread fear among DOJ lawyers about being asked to advance or defend policies they consider unethical or illegal.

“If these career DOJ employees won’t implement President Trump’s program in good faith, they should leave,” Paoletta said. “Those employees who engage in so-called ‘resistance’ against the duly-elected President’s lawful agenda would be subverting American democracy (or upholding it). … [t]hose that take such actions would be subject to disciplinary measures, including termination.”

Paoletta recited a laundry list of Trump goals, including mass deportations, ending birthright citizenship, issuing pardons and commutations to Jan. 6 defendants, reversing “lawfare and persecution of political opponents,” and “holding accountable those who weaponized their government authority to abuse Americans.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updat...-paoletta-justice-department-lawyers-00188772

Let's begin with this, trump's goal coming in to the start of his admin is to purge the government of those viewed to be disloyal. This has been well advertised.

Now consider the ACLU plans to challenge the legality of trump using the law he plans to use to facilitate mass deportations.

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/i-heard-an-interesting-interview-with-the-head-of-the-aclu-yesterday.1134492/#post-35690588

If members of the DoJ agree with the ACLU's position, will they be fired before the matter can be adjudicated? Because it seems to me the admin is already looking for a pretense to fire people opposed to their policies...........policies which may be illegal.

In his first admin a number of high ranking DoJ officials said they world resign if Jeff Clark was made acting AG. No such officials will be part of the new admin if trump has his way.

To be clear, if DoJ employees try to block legal and ethical policy goals firing them is appropriate.

If the lib lawyers disagree with trump they should resihn

And if they dont resign fire them

 

[berg80]

It's happening in real time right before our eyes.

Tried to bypass Senate confirmation for cabinet appointments

Won’t sign ethics pledge

Demanded that no judicial appointments get made in last few months by Dems

Draft Executive Order Would Create Board to Purge Generals viewed as disloyal to him​

Demanded new Senate leader be subservient to his wishes

Naming unqualified loyalists to cabinet positions

 

[berg80]

If the lib lawyers disagree with trump they should resihn

And if they dont resign fire them

I wrote this as part of the OP.

"To be clear, if DoJ employees try to block legal and ethical policy goals firing them is appropriate."

Implementing legal/ethical policies is not the employee's concern.

 

[Mac-7]

I wrote this as part of the OP.

"To be clear, if DoJ employees try to block legal and ethical policy goals firing them is appropriate."

Implementing legal/ethical policies is not the employee's concern.

And of course the obama flunkies inside DOJ have the final say about which policies they will implement?

 

[Frankenstein]

Speaking of the transition.......

Trump’s Failure To Sign Ethics Pledge Is Holding Up Transition: Report​

Trump’s Failure To Sign Ethics Pledge Is Holding Up Transition: Report

President-elect Donald Trump has missed a deadline to submit an ethics pledge promising to avoid conflicts of interest and other

dnyuz.com

Democrats demanding someone sign an ethics pledge? They don't even know the definition and I suppose you do not either!

 

[berg80]

You can't be serious? Maybe a search engine could be your best friend saving you from embarrassment.

They don't want to know.

 

[berg80]

Dogecoin shot higher on Tuesday night, extending its postelection surge after President-elect Donald Trump formally announced the creation of the Department of Government Efficiency, which he referred to as “DOGE” in his statement.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, former Republican presidential candidate and Strive Asset Management co-founder, will lead the department, Trump said in a statement. Together, they “will pave the way for my Administration to dismantle Government Bureaucracy, slash excess regulations, cut wasteful expenditures, and restructure Federal Agencies.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/13/dog...department-of-government-efficiency-doge.html

Anyone who believes trump's stated goals are his real ones hasn't been paying attention. The rollout of Project 2025 is taking form.