And About The Stolen Election....

And 'it' is unconvincing. No court has ever found Trump's Big Lie to be credible.

Which explains his spectacular record of failure when held to the standards of the law.

And why he fled, voluntarily dismissing his own case when held to those standards.

If his claims were valid and evidence based, he wouldn't have to flee.
There were no evidentiary hearings. Regardless the majority know the election was stolen and the vast majority know the election had 0 integrity. The number will grow as Trump begins his campaign or not because he is talking about it and asking questions that were never answered. They will have to kill him to stop him.
 
There were no evidentiary hearings. Regardless the majority know the election was stolen and the vast majority know the election had 0 integrity. The number will grow as Trump begins his campaign or not because he is talking about it and asking questions that were never answered. They will have to kill him to stop him.

First, nonsense. There were plenty of opportunities to present evidence. Trump and his ilk just fumbled every attempt, offering conjecture as fact and witnesses with stories that weren't credible.

Take....Melissa Carone.

"Judge Kenny said the plaintiff’s witnesses did not understand the ballot tabulation process, and quote, “No formal challenges were filed. However, sinister, fraudulent motives were ascribed to the process and the City of Detroit. Plaintiffs’ interpretation of events is incorrect and not credible.”


How could Judge Kenny have ruled on the crediblity of witness Mellisa Carone if no evidence was allowed to be submitted?
ANd of course, Trump had *every* opportunity to present his evidence at the trial he called for in Georgia. He could call witnesses, he could present forensic evidence, he could cross examine. But when held to the standards of the law, where he'd actually have to back his Big Lie up with evidence.....

The spineless Trump tucked his tail between quivering little haunches and slunk away, defeated.

"On the eve of getting the day in court they supposedly were begging for, President Trump and Chairman David Shafer’s legal team folded Thursday and voluntarily dismissed their election contests against Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger rather than submit their evidence to a court and to cross-examination."


Just because Trump lacked a backbone and fled rather than being subject to the standards of the law.....doesn't mean he didn't have an opportunity to present his 'evidence'. Instead, he voluntarily dismissed his own case.

All of which you know. But really hope we don't.

If Trump's claims had merit, he wouldn't have had to chickenshit up and run away.
 
First, nonsense. There were plenty of opportunities to present evidence. Trump and his ilk just fumbled every attempt, offering conjecture as fact and witnesses with stories that weren't credible.

Take....Melissa Carone.

"Judge Kenny said the plaintiff’s witnesses did not understand the ballot tabulation process, and quote, “No formal challenges were filed. However, sinister, fraudulent motives were ascribed to the process and the City of Detroit. Plaintiffs’ interpretation of events is incorrect and not credible.”


How could Judge Kenny have ruled on the crediblity of witness Mellisa Carone if no evidence was allowed to be submitted?
ANd of course, Trump had *every* opportunity to present his evidence at the trial he called for in Georgia. He could call witnesses, he could present forensic evidence, he could cross examine. But when held to the standards of the law, where he'd actually have to back his Big Lie up with evidence.....

The spineless Trump tucked his tail between quivering little haunches and slunk away, defeated.

"On the eve of getting the day in court they supposedly were begging for, President Trump and Chairman David Shafer’s legal team folded Thursday and voluntarily dismissed their election contests against Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger rather than submit their evidence to a court and to cross-examination."


Just because Trump lacked a backbone and fled rather than being subject to the standards of the law.....doesn't mean he didn't have an opportunity to present his 'evidence'. Instead, he voluntarily dismissed his own case.

All of which you know. But really hope we don't.

If Trump's claims had merit, he wouldn't have had to chickenshit up and run away.
You are willfully ignorant of the matter. When, and if. you ever becomed informed let me know.
 
You are willfully ignorant of the matter. When, and if. you ever becomed informed let me know.

Or....I just don't have much use for your empty assurance of 'evidence' you can't produce. And Trump lacked the balls to even try to present.

Trump didn't chickenshit up and dismiss his OWN case because of an abundance of credible evidence. But instead, for a lack of it,
 
Or....I just don't have much use for your empty assurance of 'evidence' you can't produce. And Trump lacked the balls to even try to present.

Trump didn't chickenshit up and dismiss his OWN case because of an abundance of credible evidence. But instead, for a lack of it,

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It has been shown to enough people. Half the country knows the election was stolen. Your lie is a failure.

You're lying again, FruitLoops. Less than half the country believes that. And even that ⅓ is comprised of mostly rightwingnuts who are crazy to begin with.
 
You're lying again, FruitLoops. Less than half the country believes that. And even that ⅓ is comprised of mostly rightwingnuts who are crazy to begin with.
No, I posted a new poll that shows thanks to the fraud over 80% do not trust elections anymore and 55% believe Trump was cheated. You can't change that. All you can do is watch that number grow as Trump continues to let people know how and where it happened.

Your lie has hit rock bottom and sits right next to you.
 
No, I posted a new poll that shows thanks to the fraud over 80% do not trust elections anymore and 55% believe Trump was cheated. You can't change that. All you can do is watch that number grow as Trump continues to let people know how and where it happened.

Your lie has hit rock bottom and sits right next to you.

I haven't seen a poll saying over 80% do not trust elections. Mind posting it here?

As far as 55% believing Trump was cheated, that was a poll of mostly rightwingnuts.
 
I haven't seen a poll saying over 80% do not trust elections. Mind posting it here?

As far as 55% believing Trump was cheated, that was a poll of mostly rightwingnuts.
Mind looking for it? Go for it.
 
I wish you'd stop pedaling this bullshit. He lost. Deal with it and move on.

Giving legislatures full authority over federal elections will be tantamount to establishing a dictatorship.
Free and fair elections will cease to exist. You may as well just rip the Constitution up at that point because it won't mean anything.
And unless you're asleep, legislatures already set the rules for their elections. But they don't have the final say over them, especially not
with the right to tamper with the results.



Here, from the super-Liberal Brennan Center:


"There are two relevant clauses. One is the Elections Clause, which reads, “The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations.”

The other is the Presidential Electors Clause, which reads, “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors.”

There’s a thread that links the partisan gerrymandering of congressional maps in North Carolina, attempts to dissolve the Wisconsin Election Commission, and efforts to overthrow the 2020 presidential election in Pennsylvania and elsewhere. In each case, the participants have invoked a dubious interpretation of the Constitution called the “independent state legislature theory.”

Long relegated to the fringe of election law, the theory will soon be front and center before the Supreme Court, which has agreed to hear a case concerning the North Carolina congressional maps in the fall. If the Supreme Court were to adopt the theory, it would radically change our elections."



The case is already on the Supreme Court docket, as Moore vs Harper, for October.
 
Here, from the super-Liberal Brennan Center:


"There are two relevant clauses. One is the Elections Clause, which reads, “The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations.”

The other is the Presidential Electors Clause, which reads, “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors.”

There’s a thread that links the partisan gerrymandering of congressional maps in North Carolina, attempts to dissolve the Wisconsin Election Commission, and efforts to overthrow the 2020 presidential election in Pennsylvania and elsewhere. In each case, the participants have invoked a dubious interpretation of the Constitution called the “independent state legislature theory.”

Long relegated to the fringe of election law, the theory will soon be front and center before the Supreme Court, which has agreed to hear a case concerning the North Carolina congressional maps in the fall. If the Supreme Court were to adopt the theory, it would radically change our elections."



The case is already on the Supreme Court docket, as Moore vs Harper, for October.
STATES make the rules and set the parameters for their own elections. The STATE SC determines the validity of those rules. STATES. Not the federal government (Constitution).
Essentially, you pick and choose how to interpret it depending on what grievances you have and your political leanings. Typical conservative.
 
STATES make the rules and set the parameters for their own elections. The STATE SC determines the validity of those rules. STATES. Not the federal government (Constitution).
Essentially, you pick and choose how to interpret it depending on what grievances you have and your political leanings. Typical conservative.


What agency of a state?


Under the second clause of Article II of the Constitution, the legislatures of the several states have exclusive power to direct the manner in which the electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed.
Such appointment may be made by the legislatures directly, or by popular vote in districts, or by general ticket, as may be provided by the legislature.”



A number of Democrat states allowed

it state governors,







election officials,







attorneys general,







state courts,







state constitutions,







sec’ys of state,







election commission......





to alter “time, place, and manner” of elections.



Only the state legislature is constitutionally so authorized, you dolt.


Democrats regularlly ignore the Constitution.....
 
What agency of a state?


Under the second clause of Article II of the Constitution, the legislatures of the several states have exclusive power to direct the manner in which the electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed.
Such appointment may be made by the legislatures directly, or by popular vote in districts, or by general ticket, as may be provided by the legislature.”



A number of Democrat states allowed

it state governors,







election officials,







attorneys general,







state courts,







state constitutions,







sec’ys of state,







election commission......





to alter “time, place, and manner” of elections.



Only the state legislature is constitutionally so authorized, you dolt.


Democrats regularlly ignore the Constitution.....

Retard, the state legislatures delegated that task to the governor; in accordance with the U.S. Constitution.

You really do have cottage cheese for brains. :cuckoo:
 
What agency of a state?


Under the second clause of Article II of the Constitution, the legislatures of the several states have exclusive power to direct the manner in which the electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed.
Such appointment may be made by the legislatures directly, or by popular vote in districts, or by general ticket, as may be provided by the legislature.”



A number of Democrat states allowed

it state governors,







election officials,







attorneys general,







state courts,







state constitutions,







sec’ys of state,







election commission......





to alter “time, place, and manner” of elections.



Only the state legislature is constitutionally so authorized, you dolt.


Democrats regularlly ignore the Constitution.....
Oh shit, honey. Either you believe in state's rights..or you believe that the state should bend to the will of the fed!!
Make..up..your..mind! :)
 

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