An idea that's time has come. And not the only one.

[berg80]

It was dubyas idea so why didn't libs overturn it?

There have been numerous attempts to repeal or reform it meeting with varying success. You know you can use the internet to answer your own questions, right?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The Founders had the fortunate experience of a template created by Washington. A man so concerned with a concentration of power in one man's hands that he turned down the opportunity to serve as prez for a third term. The juxtaposition to trump couldn't be more stark.

Let us know when orange man stays in office longer than fdr's four terms. See, you compare/contrast and then you conveniently forget all about a liberal president who had extramarital affairs, who clung to power like a king for four terms and would have knighted himself had he not passed away in office.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

There have been numerous attempts to repeal or reform it meeting with varying success. You know you can use the internet to answer your own questions, right?

Yeah, just like the Rs promising us they would get rid of obamacare.

 

[AntonToo]

Trump's not seeking a third term.

Because he can't.

Only a dem ever did that.

Asstruth, 6 presidents ran for third term, including 2 Republicans.

Presidential term limits were only added to the Constitution in 1951 (22nd amendment).

FDR was the only one that actually managed to win.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Yeah, assuming we survive this relatively intact, that would be a very good time to work at closing loopholes.

The Founders did everything they could to protect us from what's happening, but they couldn't have forseen the specific ways this has unfolded.

For all we know, the next challenge could come from the other party. We need to fill every leak we can, while we can, if we can.

Good luck. This Congress has been useless.

 

[g5000]

How about electing a severely impaired Biden who couldnt manage the country then covering it up.

And now your cult is ignoring Trump's obvious dementia and physical decline just as Biden's cult ignored his.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Good luck. This Congress has been useless.

Along with the previous one and the one before that and the one before that.....................

 

[g5000]

Many of the Democrats pardons were every bit as corrupt.

Please name many.

I'll give you Seth Rich, but you said many.

 

[struth]

Because he can't.



Asstruth, 6 presidents ran for third term, including 2 Republicans.

Presidential term limits were only added to the Constitution in 1951 (22nd amendment).

FDR was the only one that actually managed to win.

Yes, FDR, a Dem, ever did it.

Trump = Washington

FDR not so much

 

[g5000]

Our issues preceded Trump.

Those underlying issues are exactly why we ended up with a corrupt demagogue. If not Trump, it would have been someone else.

The people know they are being robbed, they just don't understand the complexities behind the robbery. So along comes a demagogue who tells them it's the Mexicans, and they fall for it.

Especially when their hack partisan media is telling them the same thing.

It worked for Hitler, it works for Trump.

 

[g5000]

You know, Trump doesn't win if Democrats actually did what they say they will do.

Trump told the rubes he would repeal and replace Obamacare. And they let him get away with that lie. So many lies and they just sit there and take it.

Trump's cult BEGS to be lied to.

For Trump to lie as much as he does to his cult, he absolutely has to have nothing but utter contempt for them.

Trump is holding court with billionaires and corrupt foreign officials, openly soliciting bribes, all the while telling the rubes he cares for them as their utility bills skyrocket, their health care costs skyrocket, their grocery bills skyrocket, etc.

It's incredible.

 

[pknopp]

Please name many.

I'll give you Seth Rich, but you said many.

Outside of the turkey at Thanksgiving nearly every one of them.

 

[pknopp]

Trump told the rubes he would repeal and replace Obamacare. And they let him get away with that lie. So many lies and they just sit there and take it.

Trump's cult BEGS to be lied to.

For Trump to lie as much as he does to his cult, he absolutely has to have nothing but utter contempt for them.

Trump is holding court with billionaires and openly soliciting bribes, all the while telling the rubes he cares for them as their utility bills skyrocket, their health care costs skyrocket, their grocery bills skyrocket, etc.

It's incredible.

No different than constantly saying you will "make the rich pay their fair share".

 

[g5000]

-Overturn Franklin v. Massachusetts.

Why?

 

[g5000]

Outside of the turkey at Thanksgiving nearly every one of them.

Not good enough. Provide specific examples equal to the corruption behind the pardoning of Changpeng Zhao who was convicted for laundering money for Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Hamas who then helped Trump launch his crypto scheme to accept bribes from the UAE.

The man is a supporter of terrorism and Trump pardoned him for personal financial gain.

 

[g5000]

No different than constantly saying you will "make the rich pay their fair share".

The Democrats have produced actual legislation, and have been continually blocked by the GOP.

Show me Trump's "terrific" Obamacare replacement he said he had 9 years ago.

Show the Republican Obamacare replacement they've said they've had since 2011.

 

[Mac-7]

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform​

-Pardon reform. There can be little doubt of two things. First, as currently constructed, the president’s pardon power is nearly absolute. Second, President Trump’s use of the pardon power has transgressed the Founders’ expectations. Indeed, the idea that a president might pardon his own criminal confederates (as is arguably the case with Roger Stone) is exactly why George Mason opposed the pardon power altogether. At some point, Congress might give serious consideration to a constitutional amendment that, for example, makes pardons illegal for individuals personally known to the president and makes the misuse of the power judicially reviewable.

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfaremedia.org

This article was written near the end of trump 1.0. Nothing has come of it. A fact that's proven to be a colossal mistake. Perhaps excused by the belief trump's political career was over after he launched a failed plot to overturn the 2020 election.

Clearly, as evidenced by events that have taken place during trump 2.0, the prez's absolute pardon power either needs dramatic reform or a constitutional amendment to end it. It isn't the only thing badly in need of reform. The most important among them, IMO, being........

-Reform of the Federal Vacancies Reform Act to prevent perpetual “acting” appointments.
Redefining “emergency” authority to limit such declarations generally.
-Enhanced inspectors general protection.
-Overturn Franklin v. Massachusetts.
-Define emoluments violations and create a right of action.
-Expediting judicial review of congressional demands for records in relation to oversight and impeachment.

Libs not only lie to us

They lie to themselves also

 

[Hafar1014]

And now your cult is ignoring Trump's obvious dementia and physical decline just as Biden's cult ignored his.

Trump has zero signs of dementia. I worked in gero psych for 3 years. A nursing home for 2 years. I ad mistered cognitive function tests at the Abrahamson's Center. What are your qualifications.
Biden was profoundly demented even before the election

 

[pknopp]

Not good enough. Provide specific examples equal to the corruption behind the pardoning of Changpeng Zhao who was convicted for laundering money for Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Hamas who then helped Trump launch his crypto scheme to accept bribes from the UAE.

The man is a supporter of terrorism and Trump pardoned him for personal financial gain.

"Equal" doesn't interest me. As I've often said, when you won't condemn your guy it will only get worse with the next.

 

[pknopp]

The Democrats have produced actual legislation, and have been continually blocked by the GOP.

Show me Trump's "terrific" Obamacare replacement he said he had 9 years ago.

Show the Republican Obamacare replacement they've said they've had since 2011.

These kinds of arguments are just trying to divert. I'm not trying to argue Trump is competent.