An Honest Moral Question

[SpidermanTuba]

If you post a poll asking if 'slavery is always wrong, today.' I would vote yes. I see no place for slavery today, though I do know it's being implemented in some Islamic states.

Does what is wrong and what is right change with time?

 

[Annie]

Does what is wrong and what is right change with time?

Actually, yes. There was a time that a white male, without property, could not vote. During the same period, women could not own property in most places, much less vote.

 

[Hobbit]

If you post a poll asking if 'slavery is always wrong, today.' I would vote yes. I see no place for slavery today, though I do know it's being implemented in some Islamic states.

Oh, I wholeheartedly agree. Like I said, Devil's Advocate.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Oh, I wholeheartedly agree. Like I said, Devil's Advocate.

At least slavery is honest. The mind of the slave is free. In corporate america they force you to memorize and regurgitate their one way street of pseudopolicy.

 

[Gunny]

In the instance of one human being having absolute ownership of another, slavery is wrong.

Under the circumstances of enslaving oneself to get ahead or repay debt, and within the limitations of that person being freed once the debt is paid, I see no problem.

We do it to ourselves EVERY day. Every time we use a credit card.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

In the instance of one human being having absolute ownership of another, slavery is wrong.

Under the circumstances of enslaving oneself to get ahead or repay debt, and within the limitations of that person being freed once the debt is paid, I see no problem.

We do it to ourselves EVERY day. Every time we use a credit card.

Slavery wouldn't be bad with a benevolent master. A cashless economy, colocation of work and homelife. Sounds like a new business enabled bedroom community of the future.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Slavery wouldn't be bad with a benevolent master. A cashless economy, colocation of work and homelife. Sounds like a new business enabled bedroom community of the future.

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[no1tovote4]

What if you had a freakster whose sole goal was to become a 24/7 sex slave? Would he be happy without reaching that goal?

Yeah, he would be a freak but would it be wrong to enslave him?

 

[no1tovote4]

What if you had a freakster whose sole goal was to become a 24/7 sex slave? Would he be happy without reaching that goal?

Yeah, he would be a freak but would it be wrong to enslave him?

After you decide on that you can start in on the 'was he born that way' argument. Then we can decide whether he could get married, and how to raise children under such circumstances....

 

[5stringJeff]

Wow. A majority of USMessageBoard users, so far, believe slavery is at least acceptable some of the time.


Which is quite revealing, since a majority of US message board users claim they support freedom. Turns out many of them are liars.

If you bothered to read, you would have noticed that many of us (including me) typed in caveats, basically stating that if someone wished to be enslaved, that would be morally permissible, but that involuntary enslavement is not morally permissible.

 

[Abbey Normal]

the southern liberals voted it was ok.....

[start Robotic voice]It - does - not - compute. [end robotic voice]

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Slavery is always evil. Ownership of another person is unacceptable. Per the original post, I wouldn't say that slavery is something you can voluntarily take part in. Becoming a "slave" to pay off a debt is work - not slavery, unless the person who you were in debt to demanded slavery as the only solution to your financial obligation.

 

[no1tovote4]

Slavery is always evil. Ownership of another person is unacceptable. Per the original post, I wouldn't say that slavery is something you can voluntarily take part in. Becoming a "slave" to pay off a debt is work - not slavery, unless the person who you were in debt to demanded slavery as the only solution to your financial obligation.

So you're saying that kinksters don't exist? You would be incorrect. There are people out there that truly want to be slaves....

 

[The ClayTaurus]

So you're saying that kinksters don't exist? You would be incorrect. There are people out there that truly want to be slaves....

That would fall under voluntary. Slavery is not a choice.

 

[no1tovote4]

That would fall under voluntary. Slavery is not a choice.

There are many who would disagree, but now you are attempting to split hairs and have begun to argue semantics. The person would call themselves a slave...

:spank3:

 

[The ClayTaurus]

There are many who would disagree, but now you are attempting to split hairs and have begun to argue semantics. The person would call themselves a slave...

:spank3:

It's role play

Is a person who dresses up like a cop as some sort of sexual or otherwise fantasy really a cop? No.

 

[no1tovote4]

It's role play

Is a person who dresses up like a cop as some sort of sexual or otherwise fantasy really a cop? No.

You seriously don't know how serious these people get. Role play involves make believe, it ain't make believe...

But we digress...

Mine was basically a funny sidetrack and not really a serious part of the discussion.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

You seriously don't know how serious these people get. Role play involves make believe, it ain't make believe...

But we digress...

Mine was basically a funny sidetrack and not really a serious part of the discussion.

It doesn't matter. It's still voluntary, because none of these "serious" people would ever bring charges against their captor.

You are right though, it's not a serious part of the discussion. Slavery in it's non-fetish existence is absolutely evil. Somehow rationalizing it (not saying you did) by saying worse things could happen is rediculous.

 

[Gunny]

It doesn't matter. It's still voluntary, because none of these "serious" people would ever bring charges against their captor.

You are right though, it's not a serious part of the discussion. Slavery in it's non-fetish existence is absolutely evil. Somehow rationalizing it (not saying you did) by saying worse things could happen is rediculous.

Slavery is 'evil" by our moral standards today; which, in comparison to the known history of mankind, doesn't amount to much.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Slavery is 'evil" by our moral standards today; which, in comparison to the known history of mankind, doesn't amount to much.

Spell what your point is out for me; I'm a slow asshole, remember?