So you can't refute what he is saying...
You can't refute the message so you go for the messenger..
An enormously tangled web.
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You can't refute the message so you go for the messenger..
It is funny because it uses facts and shows stupidity of things...
This much like a court jester was usually the smartest guy in the room playing a fool...
Comedy has been used like this for centuries...
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Couchpotato
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it’s not a news show though is it? Oliver js a comedian doing a comedy show.
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He makes strawmen and then criticizes them.
And they steadfastly refuse to set any limits.
I realize it's a big ask to expect folks to watch an entire episode of John Oliver's show. I have no doubt trump fans will not. But they should. Everyone should. The episode is chalk full of factual info regarding Don's attempts to manipulate media coverage of him. Not the least of which is naming this guy to head the FCC.
A federal agency goes full Trumpist
Four months into his tenure as head of America’s top communications regulator, Brendan Carr appears to be running a Trumpian playbook to transform a long-independent agency.
Immediately after being promoted by President Donald Trump to chair the Federal Communications Commission, on Jan. 20, Carr launched investigations into top media companies, including NPR, PBS and Comcast.
Though the bulk of the FCC’s work is regulating nuts-and-bolts issues to do with telecom, TV and radio networks and broadband internet, Carr used his power as chair to invite thousands of public comments critiquing a single “60 Minutes” interview with Kamala Harris that personally affronted Trump — a direct incursion into news content that hasn’t been seen in decades.
Oliver spends some time going in to the duplicitous intrigue of trump's involvement in the complex issues behind Paramount Global trying to get government approval to merge with Skydance Media. Leading to this.
Paramount ousts CBS News CEO Wendy McMahon amid divide with leadership
CBS News Chief Executive Officer Wendy McMahon announced Monday she is stepping down, the latest twist in a growing battle of wills between the company’s news division and Paramount Global controlling shareholder Shari Redstone.
Paramount Global co-CEO George Cheeks talked with McMahon on Saturday and asked for her resignation, according to people familiar with the matter. McMahon agreed to step down, and the Paramount Global board held a meeting Sunday at which members were made aware of the decision, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal matters.
The nefarious reach of trump's tentacles in to media coverage of him, and the 24/7 propagandizing going on at Faux............
Key Trump officials appeared more than 500 times on Fox networks in the first 100 days of his presidency
.......paints a disturbing picture of how Don is mimicking the actions of authoritarian leaders like his buddy Viktor Orban.
A good chunk of the population would approve of imprisonment, enslavement or execution of all the people like him. Lies. Constant lies. Any truths mean nothing if there is due to it.
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The fact that you says this proves you so.
Marener
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Keep trying to deflect from Trump using government coercion to silence critics and punish enemies.
Your defense of Trump threatening speech was to say “he hasn’t actually done anything”. Well, he’s doing it now. You just ignore it and try to change the subject.
Well Trump keeps on telling us he is joking
Trump resorts to old excuse over his ‘dictator’ comments – he was ‘joking’
Fallout from Trump’s debate counter-programming attempt continues
www.independent.co.uk
Why are you complaining about a comedian that tells the truth..
Last Week tonight is a highly respected award winning show... They had to change the Emmy's to give him them there own category..
Yes it is funny but it also points the light on problems...
The show uses comedy much like a jester in the past,
As I pointed out, the detractors here can't address what he says so they try attack him because he is a comedian... So is Joe Rogan and we don't see the same issues...
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In the case of CBS and “60 Minutes,” however, the FCC’s potential leverage goes considerably further. The network’s parent company, Paramount Global, also needs FCC approval for its proposed $8 billion merger with Skydance Media. Carr has said he sees the “60 Minutes” complaint and the merger as intertwined. (He later demurred, telling reporters the matters are separate.)
This has triggered blunt criticism of Carr as being openly in the tank for Trump. House Energy and Commerce Democrats Frank Pallone, Doris Matsui and Yvette Clarke called the FCC investigation “an obvious effort to create additional leverage in Trump’s settlement negotiations and encourage payment in a sham lawsuit in exchange for favorable regulatory outcome,” in their March 31 letter.
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The U.S. Federal Communications Commission has launched investigations over the past two weeks into three news outlets and reinstated complaints against three others.
Earlier this week, CBS News complied with an FCC request to hand over the raw footage and transcript from an October interview with Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris.
The FCC’s request for the material was “unusual,” according to Harold Furchtgott-Roth, a Republican who served as an FCC commissioner under President Bill Clinton.
“The commission doesn’t usually ask for transcripts,” he said.
That interview is at the center of one FCC complaint — and a $10 billion lawsuit from President Donald Trump — that says CBS doctored the interview. CBS denied any wrongdoing when Trump filed the lawsuit, but its parent company, Paramount, is now considering a settlement, according to media reports.
The FCC complaint against CBS is one of four that former FCC chair Jessica Rosenworcel, a Democrat, dismissed earlier in January, saying the complaints “seek to weaponize the licensing authority of the FCC in a way that is fundamentally at odds with the First Amendment.”
Rosenworcel’s successor, Trump-appointed Republican chair Brendan Carr, revived the CBS complaint, plus complaints against NBC and ABC. He did not revive a complaint against Fox News, which Rosenworcel had also dismissed.
www.voanews.com
Faux is an egregious broadcaster of misinformation.
Earlier this week, CBS News complied with an FCC request to hand over the raw footage and transcript from an October interview with Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris.
The FCC’s request for the material was “unusual,” according to Harold Furchtgott-Roth, a Republican who served as an FCC commissioner under President Bill Clinton.
“The commission doesn’t usually ask for transcripts,” he said.
That interview is at the center of one FCC complaint — and a $10 billion lawsuit from President Donald Trump — that says CBS doctored the interview. CBS denied any wrongdoing when Trump filed the lawsuit, but its parent company, Paramount, is now considering a settlement, according to media reports.
The FCC complaint against CBS is one of four that former FCC chair Jessica Rosenworcel, a Democrat, dismissed earlier in January, saying the complaints “seek to weaponize the licensing authority of the FCC in a way that is fundamentally at odds with the First Amendment.”
Rosenworcel’s successor, Trump-appointed Republican chair Brendan Carr, revived the CBS complaint, plus complaints against NBC and ABC. He did not revive a complaint against Fox News, which Rosenworcel had also dismissed.
FCC launches media investigations, reinstates complaints
Former FCC chair Jessica Rosenworcel dismissed four complaints in January, saying the complaints ‘seek to weaponize the licensing authority of the FCC’
www.voanews.com
Faux is an egregious broadcaster of misinformation.
Mac1958
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Funny, I was thinking about this very thing, earlier this morning. I have agreements and disagreements with both ends of the spectrum on pretty much every issue. But disagreeing on the issues with the Left and with MAGA are very different.
My disagreements with the Left are based in the usual things -- differences in priorities, differences in tactics, differences in interpretations, whatever. Regular stuff.
But with MAGA, it's often literally a separation between what is real and what is not. I don't how to communicate with that. You have to at least begin from some fundamental shared perception of reality, and I often can't even get THAT far.
It's a little easier in real life because you can observe their non-verbal communication and pick up some clues. But on message board? No. The value here is in observation.
Mac1958
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No need. There is such a hurricane of shit coming out of everywhere that each drop is impossible to concentrate and focus on. They know that.
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I realize it's a big ask to expect folks to watch an entire episode of John Oliver's show. I have no doubt trump fans will not. But they should. Everyone should. The episode is chalk full of factual info regarding Don's attempts to manipulate media coverage of him. Not the least of which is naming this guy to head the FCC.
A federal agency goes full Trumpist
Four months into his tenure as head of America’s top communications regulator, Brendan Carr appears to be running a Trumpian playbook to transform a long-independent agency.
Immediately after being promoted by President Donald Trump to chair the Federal Communications Commission, on Jan. 20, Carr launched investigations into top media companies, including NPR, PBS and Comcast.
Though the bulk of the FCC’s work is regulating nuts-and-bolts issues to do with telecom, TV and radio networks and broadband internet, Carr used his power as chair to invite thousands of public comments critiquing a single “60 Minutes” interview with Kamala Harris that personally affronted Trump — a direct incursion into news content that hasn’t been seen in decades.
Oliver spends some time going in to the duplicitous intrigue of trump's involvement in the complex issues behind Paramount Global trying to get government approval to merge with Skydance Media. Leading to this.
Paramount ousts CBS News CEO Wendy McMahon amid divide with leadership
CBS News Chief Executive Officer Wendy McMahon announced Monday she is stepping down, the latest twist in a growing battle of wills between the company’s news division and Paramount Global controlling shareholder Shari Redstone.
Paramount Global co-CEO George Cheeks talked with McMahon on Saturday and asked for her resignation, according to people familiar with the matter. McMahon agreed to step down, and the Paramount Global board held a meeting Sunday at which members were made aware of the decision, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal matters.
The nefarious reach of trump's tentacles in to media coverage of him, and the 24/7 propagandizing going on at Faux............
Key Trump officials appeared more than 500 times on Fox networks in the first 100 days of his presidency
.......paints a disturbing picture of how Don is mimicking the actions of authoritarian leaders like his buddy Viktor Orban.
Okeeeyyyy?? And the problem is______________________?
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It's the same thing used by Greta, except that was "pacifier in, pacifier out"
It's not attacking the messenger, it's critiquing the methods used by the messenger.
SeaMajor7
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60 Minutes HEAVILY EDITED their interview with Harris. Perhaps you should CRY TO THEM, asshole.The U.S. Federal Communications Commission has launched investigations over the past two weeks into three news outlets and reinstated complaints against three others.
Earlier this week, CBS News complied with an FCC request to hand over the raw footage and transcript from an October interview with Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris.
The FCC’s request for the material was “unusual,” according to Harold Furchtgott-Roth, a Republican who served as an FCC commissioner under President Bill Clinton.
“The commission doesn’t usually ask for transcripts,” he said.
That interview is at the center of one FCC complaint — and a $10 billion lawsuit from President Donald Trump — that says CBS doctored the interview. CBS denied any wrongdoing when Trump filed the lawsuit, but its parent company, Paramount, is now considering a settlement, according to media reports.
The FCC complaint against CBS is one of four that former FCC chair Jessica Rosenworcel, a Democrat, dismissed earlier in January, saying the complaints “seek to weaponize the licensing authority of the FCC in a way that is fundamentally at odds with the First Amendment.”
Rosenworcel’s successor, Trump-appointed Republican chair Brendan Carr, revived the CBS complaint, plus complaints against NBC and ABC. He did not revive a complaint against Fox News, which Rosenworcel had also dismissed.
FCC launches media investigations, reinstates complaints
Former FCC chair Jessica Rosenworcel dismissed four complaints in January, saying the complaints ‘seek to weaponize the licensing authority of the FCC’
Faux is an egregious broadcaster of misinformation.
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