An argument for criminalizing LGBT and transgender media

[Questioner]

If only we could be more like Iran

Read the Common Law and get back to me.

How does Common Law apply here?

It certainly does not overrule the US Constitution.

I'm aware, but it's an argument based off of it regardless.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

There is no valid reason to criminalize the legal activities of consenting adults.

You thinking it is "yucky" is not valid grounds.

If that's the case, there should be no grounds for illegality for having sex with animals or prostitutes.

I don't see why prostitution is illegal.

As for animals, they cannot give informed consent. So that is an excellent reason.

Prostitution isn't the "victimless crime" it's made out to be. There's always human trafficking, drugs, and wrecked lives involved.

Sometimes it's just lazy women. Prostitution is one of those activities that just can't be made legal without violating some law someplace.

 

[WinterBorn]

There is no sound argument when you want to wipe your ass with the Constitution.

The beauty of the Constitution is that it can easily be changed, as well as rendered culturally irrelevant under the changing legal whims and tides.

As far as Britain is concerned, I believe that they don't have to bother with Constitutional shenanigans like "freeze peach" and the misinterpretations thereof - at least in the sense that Americans so, nor other Commonwealth nations, so shutting down said media on a national basis should be a much easier legal feat than it sadly would be here.

Shut it down, and just classify all LGBT groups and cults which promote the ideas above as criminal or terrorist organizations for all I care. Profile them, contact their employers, and have them fired from their jobs for peddling their snake oil to children.

What constitution can be easily changed? Certainly not the U.S. constitution. I suspect your article is copy and paste so no link.

Amendments can be repealed, including the first.

Can be? Sure.

You need to read up on what it takes to amend the US Constitution.

The Constitution, nor the legal doctrines of any nation, are not quite as sacred as superstitious people might imagine them, nor were they to the framers, or the theorists of law and government, such as Holmes.

I am not superstitious, and I did not call them sacred.

But the US Constitution IS the law of the land. And it is the foundation of all that is legal or that is a guaranteed right or freedom.

So far, the only reason you have given for what you want is based on what you like or dislike. Not good enough.

 

[WinterBorn]

If only we could be more like Iran

Read the Common Law and get back to me.

How does Common Law apply here?

It certainly does not overrule the US Constitution.

I'm aware, but it's an argument based off of it regardless.

Fine to argue. But to think it will happen is delusional.

 

[WinterBorn]

There is no valid reason to criminalize the legal activities of consenting adults.

You thinking it is "yucky" is not valid grounds.

If that's the case, there should be no grounds for illegality for having sex with animals or prostitutes.

I don't see why prostitution is illegal.

As for animals, they cannot give informed consent. So that is an excellent reason.

Prostitution isn't the "victimless crime" it's made out to be. There's always human trafficking, drugs, and wrecked lives involved.

Sometimes it's just lazy women. Prostitution is one of those activities that just can't be made legal without violating some law someplace.

Utah seems to have found a way.

 

[G.T.]

Chill boomers. Homophobia died like 5 years ago. Eat a dick. Shamelessly, of course.

 

[Questioner]

There is no valid reason to criminalize the legal activities of consenting adults.

You thinking it is "yucky" is not valid grounds.

If that's the case, there should be no grounds for illegality for having sex with animals or prostitutes.

I don't see why prostitution is illegal.

As for animals, they cannot give informed consent. So that is an excellent reason.

Prostitution isn't the "victimless crime" it's made out to be. There's always human trafficking, drugs, and wrecked lives involved.

Sometimes it's just lazy women. Prostitution is one of those activities that just can't be made legal without violating some law someplace.

Utah seems to have found a way.

I don't tend to have naïve faith in nations either, or people's ignorant and simplistic notions of what they are to begin with.

Nations, ultimately are associations of people, millions, perhaps billions, subject to various whims and changes.

 

[debbiedowner]

There is no sound argument when you want to wipe your ass with the Constitution.

The beauty of the Constitution is that it can easily be changed, as well as rendered culturally irrelevant under the changing legal whims and tides.

As far as Britain is concerned, I believe that they don't have to bother with Constitutional shenanigans like "freeze peach" and the misinterpretations thereof - at least in the sense that Americans so, nor other Commonwealth nations, so shutting down said media on a national basis should be a much easier legal feat than it sadly would be here.

Shut it down, and just classify all LGBT groups and cults which promote the ideas above as criminal or terrorist organizations for all I care. Profile them, contact their employers, and have them fired from their jobs for peddling their snake oil to children.

What constitution can be easily changed? Certainly not the U.S. constitution. I suspect your article is copy and paste so no link.

Amendments can be repealed, including the first.

Can be? Sure.

You need to read up on what it takes to amend the US Constitution.

I think he's from another country.

 

[Questioner]

There is no sound argument when you want to wipe your ass with the Constitution.

The beauty of the Constitution is that it can easily be changed, as well as rendered culturally irrelevant under the changing legal whims and tides.

As far as Britain is concerned, I believe that they don't have to bother with Constitutional shenanigans like "freeze peach" and the misinterpretations thereof - at least in the sense that Americans so, nor other Commonwealth nations, so shutting down said media on a national basis should be a much easier legal feat than it sadly would be here.

Shut it down, and just classify all LGBT groups and cults which promote the ideas above as criminal or terrorist organizations for all I care. Profile them, contact their employers, and have them fired from their jobs for peddling their snake oil to children.

What constitution can be easily changed? Certainly not the U.S. constitution. I suspect your article is copy and paste so no link.

Amendments can be repealed, including the first.

Can be? Sure.

You need to read up on what it takes to amend the US Constitution.

I think he's from another country.

I suppose that actually reading about the law, society, history or government, as well being above and beyond the whims of inept idiots, incapable of asserting their ugly, infantile views, feelings, and passions except via force and petulant ineptitude would make one seem to be from another country, yes, or from another planet altogether, in the mind of an infantile media addict, sure...

Not to mention their childish, inept and heathen "gods", false, idyllic, childish, idolatrus, weak, degenerate, and pathetic... unlike God and his infinite cosmos, of course.

Same with their childish and heathen "hell", nothing comparable to any actual Hell.

 

[KissMy]

 

[RealDave]

I believe we could make a sound argument for criminalizing LGBT or transgender media, including social media on the following grounds:

1. Promotion of conspiracy theories - the "trans" narrative is based on a mythical history and conspiracy theory, in which "trans people" supposedly had a "sacred status" in ancient cultures, only to be repressed by civilization - in reality, this is sketchy if not untrue, and it often directly attacks subjects such as biology or evolutionary psychology, as well as our society's institutions such as the Common Law system itself, which are built and founded on the notions that sex and gender are innate or genetic in origin.

2. Association with pedophilia and sexual deviancy - while not all people affiliated with it are pedophiles, the LGBT subculture or fringe movement as a whole has had a documented history of association with pro-pedophilia groups (e.x. IGLA's association with NAMBLA back in the 1990s), as well as being tolerant of worldviews which are, at least potentially tolerant of pedophilia or which advocate "libertine" sexuality in general, possibly including bestiality, incest, and other degenerate sexual preferences, which, on the whole, civilization's manifesto as per the common law and its theorists is not predicated on, much as it isn't violence or fueding - something which our Common Law system is against as a worldview, potentially one being promoted to children as a lifestyle.

Based on this, I believe the legal systems of the states' as well as Britain or other nations under the Common Law system would have a sound case of banning or criminalizing these views via the mass media, as well as arresting or imprisoning those who promote them - potentially under state or national obscenity laws.

Fuck off you bigoted piece of shit.

This is what happens when Republicans think they are in control;.

 

[Questioner]

I believe we could make a sound argument for criminalizing LGBT or transgender media, including social media on the following grounds:

1. Promotion of conspiracy theories - the "trans" narrative is based on a mythical history and conspiracy theory, in which "trans people" supposedly had a "sacred status" in ancient cultures, only to be repressed by civilization - in reality, this is sketchy if not untrue, and it often directly attacks subjects such as biology or evolutionary psychology, as well as our society's institutions such as the Common Law system itself, which are built and founded on the notions that sex and gender are innate or genetic in origin.

2. Association with pedophilia and sexual deviancy - while not all people affiliated with it are pedophiles, the LGBT subculture or fringe movement as a whole has had a documented history of association with pro-pedophilia groups (e.x. IGLA's association with NAMBLA back in the 1990s), as well as being tolerant of worldviews which are, at least potentially tolerant of pedophilia or which advocate "libertine" sexuality in general, possibly including bestiality, incest, and other degenerate sexual preferences, which, on the whole, civilization's manifesto as per the common law and its theorists is not predicated on, much as it isn't violence or fueding - something which our Common Law system is against as a worldview, potentially one being promoted to children as a lifestyle.

Based on this, I believe the legal systems of the states' as well as Britain or other nations under the Common Law system would have a sound case of banning or criminalizing these views via the mass media, as well as arresting or imprisoning those who promote them - potentially under state or national obscenity laws.

Fuck off you bigoted piece of shit.

This is what happens when Republicans think they are in control;.

Make me.

 

[Questioner]

Not to mention their silly, infantile, and made up laws and rules, formal or informal... as opposed to the Law and the Rule, of which the infantile little children and the ugly, archaic aberrations that they fetishize to be true only in their infantile imaginations are utterly oblivious... heh...

 

[WinterBorn]

If that's the case, there should be no grounds for illegality for having sex with animals or prostitutes.

I don't see why prostitution is illegal.

As for animals, they cannot give informed consent. So that is an excellent reason.

Prostitution isn't the "victimless crime" it's made out to be. There's always human trafficking, drugs, and wrecked lives involved.

Sometimes it's just lazy women. Prostitution is one of those activities that just can't be made legal without violating some law someplace.

Utah seems to have found a way.

I don't tend to have naïve faith in nations either, or people's ignorant and simplistic notions of what they are to begin with.

Nations, ultimately are associations of people, millions, perhaps billions, subject to various whims and changes.

Which is the best reason for a document like the US Constitution.

It is changeable, but not easily and not by a minority of people in charge.

And it is not subject to whims and changes. The original 10 amendments are basically the same as they were in 1791. The 12th amendment was passed in 1803. Since then, there have been only 15 amendments to the US Constitution in 216 years.

Most took over a year to ratify. The shortest time for an amendment was 189 days. And that was just to say the president picks his running mate, instead of the runner-up in the election getting the position.

So no, it is not easy and it is not done on a whim.

 

[WinterBorn]

The beauty of the Constitution is that it can easily be changed, as well as rendered culturally irrelevant under the changing legal whims and tides.

As far as Britain is concerned, I believe that they don't have to bother with Constitutional shenanigans like "freeze peach" and the misinterpretations thereof - at least in the sense that Americans so, nor other Commonwealth nations, so shutting down said media on a national basis should be a much easier legal feat than it sadly would be here.

Shut it down, and just classify all LGBT groups and cults which promote the ideas above as criminal or terrorist organizations for all I care. Profile them, contact their employers, and have them fired from their jobs for peddling their snake oil to children.

What constitution can be easily changed? Certainly not the U.S. constitution. I suspect your article is copy and paste so no link.

Amendments can be repealed, including the first.

Can be? Sure.

You need to read up on what it takes to amend the US Constitution.

I think he's from another country.

I suppose that actually reading about the law, society, history or government, as well being above and beyond the whims of inept idiots, incapable of asserting their ugly, infantile views, feelings, and passions except via force and petulant ineptitude would make one seem to be from another country, yes, or from another planet altogether, in the mind of an infantile media addict, sure...

Not to mention their childish, inept and heathen "gods", false, idyllic, childish, idolatrus, weak, degenerate, and pathetic... unlike God and his infinite cosmos, of course.

Same with their childish and heathen "hell", nothing comparable to any actual Hell.

Oh, this makes it clearer. You are another fundamentalist that wants everyone else to respect your beliefs, but your religion puts you above respecting theirs. Figures.

Questioner, are you female?

 

[WinterBorn]

Not to mention their silly, infantile, and made up laws and rules, formal or informal... as opposed to the Law and the Rule, of which the infantile little children and the ugly, archaic aberrations that they fetishize to be true only in their infantile imaginations are utterly oblivious... heh...

You capitalize "Law" and "Rule" like they are above the laws agreed upon by men?

YOur ideas about Common Law reach way back in history, and have been unchanged for centuries. But that does not allow for changes in societies.

 

[Jitss617]

Look at all the gay men defend this!

 

[WinterBorn]

Look at all the gay men defend this!

Dumbass. Defending the rights of gays and lesbians does not mean you are gay or a lesbian. It means you are an American citizen who defends all Americans.

I've seen you defending blacks. Are you black?

 

[Faun]

I believe we could make a sound argument for criminalizing LGBT or transgender media, including social media on the following grounds:

1. Promotion of conspiracy theories - the "trans" narrative is based on a mythical history and conspiracy theory, in which "trans people" supposedly had a "sacred status" in ancient cultures, only to be repressed by civilization - in reality, this is sketchy if not untrue, and it often directly attacks subjects such as biology or evolutionary psychology, as well as our society's institutions such as the Common Law system itself, which are built and founded on the notions that sex and gender are innate or genetic in origin.

2. Association with pedophilia and sexual deviancy - while not all people affiliated with it are pedophiles, the LGBT subculture or fringe movement as a whole has had a documented history of association with pro-pedophilia groups (e.x. IGLA's association with NAMBLA back in the 1990s), as well as being tolerant of worldviews which are, at least potentially tolerant of pedophilia or which advocate "libertine" sexuality in general, possibly including bestiality, incest, and other degenerate sexual preferences, which, on the whole, civilization's manifesto as per the common law and its theorists is not predicated on, much as it isn't violence or fueding - something which our Common Law system is against as a worldview, potentially one being promoted to children as a lifestyle.

Based on this, I believe the legal systems of the states' as well as Britain or other nations under the Common Law system would have a sound case of banning or criminalizing these views via the mass media, as well as arresting or imprisoning those who promote them - potentially under state or national obscenity laws.

I find some merit to your argument. Notably with this observation of yours...

"Association with pedophilia and sexual deviancy - while not all people affiliated with it are pedophiles..."​

So if we are to criminalize the LGBT media for that, then it seems fair to say we should also criminalize Republicans as too many of them are sexual deviants associated with pedophilia. Here's the short list...

• Andrew Buhr Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

• Armando Tebano Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano was arrested for sexually molesting a 14-year-old girl.

• Beverly Russell Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

• Bobby Stumbo Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

• Brent K. Schepp Republican Brent K. Schepp who is seeking election to the Kane County Board in November has been charged with sexually abusing two girls. He was named in a 26-count criminal indictment announced Friday by Kane County State’s Atty. John Barsanti. The charges are 14 counts of criminal sexual assault, 10 counts of criminal sexual abuse and two counts of unlawful delivery of alcohol to a minor. Prosecutors said Schepp knew his victims, who are now 15 and 16. The alleged abuse occurred last year between June and December. Bond is set at $75,000. Schepp faces a minimum sentence of 34 years in prison if convicted. Schepp is the Republican candidate in the race for an open County Board seat based in Aurora.Candidate indicted on child sex charges

• Brian J. Doyle Republican Brian J. Doyle, 55, deputy press secretary for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security was arrested Tuesday, April 04, 2006, for using the Internet to seduce what he thought was a teenage girl, authorities said. He was arrested in Maryland where he lives on charges of use of a computer to seduce a child and transmission of harmful material to a minor. The charges were issued out of Polk County, Fla.

• Carey Lee Cramer Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was charged with molesting his 9-year old step-daughter after including her in an anti-Gore television commercial.

• Cary Lee Cramer A South Texas jury has found a 44-year-old REPUBLICAN political consultant guilty of four counts involving the sexual molestation of children. The 44-year-old CARY LEE CRAMER was convicted of one count of aggravated sexual assault of a child, two of indecency with a child by contact and one of indecency with a child by exposure. Cramer, who now lives in Tucson, Ariz., gained national attention during the 2000 presidential election. His McAllen company created a TV ad accusing the Clinton-Gore administration of giving away nuclear technology to China in exchange for campaign contributions. Cramer faces a maximum of 149 years in prison for the four felony charges.

• Craig J. Spence Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

• David Swartz Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

• Dennis L. Rader Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.

• Donald "Buz" Lukens Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail. A girl he was accused of sleeping with since she was 13.

• Earl "Butch" Kimmerling Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

• Edison Misla Aldarondo Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

• Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

• Howard L. Brooks Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

• Howard Scott Heldreth Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

• Jack W. Gardner Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

• Jeffrey Patti Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

• John Allen Burt Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.

• John Butler Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

• John Collins Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

• John R. Curtain Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

• John Gosek Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.

• John Hathaway Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

• John R. Curtain Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

• Jon Grunseth Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

• Jon Matthews Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

• Keith Westmoreland Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

• Keola Childs Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

• Kevin Coan Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

• Larry Dale Floyd Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

• Larry Jack Schwarz Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

• Lawrence E. King Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

• Lou Beres Republican Lou Beres denied sexual-molestation allegations when the Oregonian newspaper first reported them in October. Beres acknowledged sexually touching a 16- or 17-year-old friend of his daughter in 1976 or 1977. But a local Police Department report released as part of a lawsuit said Beres "readily admitted sexually touching" one girl when she was 13 or 14 years old. The longtime leader of the Oregon Christian Coalition and staunch opponent of gay rights admits in a newly released police report that he sexually touched three underage girls.

• Mark A. Grethen Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

• Mark Harris Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

• Mark Pazuhanich Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

• Mark Seidensticker Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.

• Marty Glickman Republica/n activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

• Merrill Robert Barter Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

• Mike Hintz Republican pastor Mike Hintz , whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

• Nicholas Elizondo Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

• Nicholas Morency Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

• Parker J. Bena Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

• Paul Ingram Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

• Peter Dibble Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

• Philip Giordano Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

• Randal David Ankeney Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

• Randall Casseday Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper was arrested for soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.

• Richard A. Dasen Sr. Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

• Richard A. Delgaudio Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

• Richard Gardner Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

• Robert Bauman Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

• Ronald C. Kline Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.

• Russell Harding Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.

• Stephen White Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

• Steve Aiken Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.

• Strom Thurmond Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

• Tom Adams Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.

• Tom Randall Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.

• Tom Shortridge Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

 

[RealDave]

Look at all the gay men defend this!

Must be it