Amid the claims of tea party violence I find this video

[Vast LWC]

But if a republican did it you'd be calling it a hate crime you fucking hypocrite.

And go ahead and throw an egg at a police cruiser and see how meaningless it is.

Where do you live so we can get a crowd of people to pelt your car and house with eggs so we can all just watch you laugh it off

If a Republican did it, I'd shrug and not care.

The incidents with BRICKS being thrown through windows are potentially deadly situations. If just one of those bricks hits someone in the head, and kills them, then someone is goinig to prison for a long time.

When someone calls a congressman's office and threatens to assassinate their children, it's a hell of a lot different than some asshole confronting a crowd of protesters and getting some vague threat of what may or may not be violence.

For God's sake, if someone throws an EGG at your fucking BUS, you can wash it off!!!

Now stop being such whiny little pussies about nothing.

 

[Vast LWC]

Any projectile is illegal to heave at someone.

This is assault and everyone needs to face that fact.

Yeah, yeah, Oh, watch out! They're armed with Eggs!

And I hear they may also have toilet paper!

 

[Vast LWC]

You know what drives me crazy about this whole debate. The serfs on the left accuse the serfs on the right of using "violent rhetoric" and now the serfs on the right are accusing the serfs on the left of using "violent rhetoric" but the gorilla in the middle of the room that everyone is ignoring is that the government itself is using real violence to enforce whatever regulations are in the bill. If I don't buy insurance, and I don't take the government option, they charge me some kind of crazy fine. If I don't pay the fine, the guns come out. Doctors will be obligated to perform certain services. If they don't perform those services, the guns come out.

Oh, yes, that's so true! The government won't just try to dock your pay or try something else first. They're just going to come to your house and shoot you!

Yeah, cause that will happen.

Insurance companies will be obligated to cover certain preexisting conditions, if they don't cover those conditions they'll be ordered to shut down, if they don't shut down, the guns come out. Top to bottom, everything the government does is only possible because of the implicit threat of violence.

Of course they will! They'll stage an assault of the insurance companies and shoot all the people involved!

Government run health care is little more than the absurd belief that if the State just points the right guns at the right people to steal the right money for the right services everyone will live forever.

Your hyperbole is fucking unbelievable. But of course, what does one expect from the people that brought us "Death Panels", and claim that Obama is some sort of "Nazi Fascist"?

 

[Darkwind]

Ooooh, wow, EGGS! Man that's just terrible!

What's next? Rotten Tomatoes?

ROFL. Seriously, can't come up with anything better than this? LOL.

Its a lot better than any real examples of real tea partiers threatening non-tea partiers with violence if they dont leave their midst. Its also a lot better than any real examples of real tea party people vandalizing private property.

Andrew Breitbart is a sensationalist, and a professional instigator.

The question is, what did he say beforehand to instigate the comment, which is conveniently not shown in the video.

You can be sure as hell that his claims of "I didn't say anything" are complete BS, otherwise they wouldn't have known who he was in the first place.

And of course, the gentleman in question might have meant anything by "I'm going to go to jail" He may have been referring to breaking Breitbart's camera or taking it from him. The lone person who made the comment (who may of course have been a Breitbart plant) was not specific.

So I can get your support for people on the right vandalizing liberal/progressive property when they say things that inflame the crowd.

That is good to know.

 

[Vast LWC]

So I can get your support for people on the right vandalizing liberal/progressive property when they say things that inflame the crowd.

That is good to know.

No-one touched Breitbart, did they? No one touched his camera, or vandalized any of his property.

If a member of the KKK walks into a bar in the South Bronx in full regalia, you can be quite sure that he's going to be threatened, as in "Get the fuck out of here before we all beat the crap out of you."

And in this case, there wasn't even an overt threat made, just some vague comment.

Neither you, nor I, have any idea what kind of exchange happened beforehand that might have provoked said comment.

 

[RodISHI]

I'm working on being a capitalist for the day... I have some well seasoned rotten eggs any bidders?


PS: I will donate these to the Tea Party if'n they want to return fire.

 

[MuslimAgorist]

Oh, yes, that's so true! The government won't just try to dock your pay or try something else first. They're just going to come to your house and shoot you!

And suppose my employer refuses to dock my pay? Or I'm self employed, what then?

Of course they will! They'll stage an assault of the insurance companies and shoot all the people involved!

Ok, what will happen if the insurance company does not comply? What incentives do they have to comply?

There's no avoiding it. The end result of disobedience is violence. If you don't pay their taxes, if you don't pay their fines, if you don't fill out their paperwork, If you don't get their permission slips, if you don't follow their orders, someone will eventually threaten you with violence.

You want to talk about an unbelievable hyperbole, Obama told the Military Times editorial board that, "what essentially sets a nation-state apart from the private sector, is a monopoly on violence." That phrase originates from Max Weber, a German lawyer on the commission that drafted the Constitution of the Weimar Republic. That definition of government is accepted by most political scientists today. So don't tell me the government isn't violence, and don't tell me it has nothing to with fascism. I don't play left/right games. They're both National Socialists.

 

[Vast LWC]

Oh, yes, that's so true! The government won't just try to dock your pay or try something else first. They're just going to come to your house and shoot you!

And suppose my employer refuses to dock my pay? Or I'm self employed, what then?

Well then I imagine you can declare bankruptcy and destroy your credit rating. Still no stormtroopers at the door shooting you in the head though.

Of course they will! They'll stage an assault of the insurance companies and shoot all the people involved!

Ok, what will happen if the insurance company does not comply? What incentives do they have to comply?

Then the insurance company loses it's operating license, and folds. No-one goes into the building and guns down the CEO though.

There's no avoiding it. The end result of disobedience is violence. If you don't pay their taxes, if you don't pay their fines, if you don't fill out their paperwork, If you don't get their permission slips, if you don't follow their orders, someone will eventually threaten you with violence.

You want to talk about an unbelievable hyperbole, Obama told the Military Times editorial board that, "what essentially sets a nation-state apart from the private sector, is a monopoly on violence." That phrase originates from Max Weber, a German lawyer on the commission that drafted the Constitution of the Weimar Republic. That definition of government is accepted by most political scientists today. So don't tell me the government isn't violence, and don't tell me it has nothing to with fascism. I don't play left/right games. They're both National Socialists.

Of course the government uses violence when all other possible options fail, what is your point?

That's how order is kept. That's what stops people from going out and murdering one another when they feel like it.

What you seem to advocating is ANARCHY. Are you an anarchist?

And yes, if you refused to pay taxes, and still continued to use the benefits the country provides every American, than you're a leech and you need to go to jail.

 

[Skull Pilot]

But if a republican did it you'd be calling it a hate crime you fucking hypocrite.

And go ahead and throw an egg at a police cruiser and see how meaningless it is.

Where do you live so we can get a crowd of people to pelt your car and house with eggs so we can all just watch you laugh it off

If a Republican did it, I'd shrug and not care.

The incidents with BRICKS being thrown through windows are potentially deadly situations. If just one of those bricks hits someone in the head, and kills them, then someone is goinig to prison for a long time.

When someone calls a congressman's office and threatens to assassinate their children, it's a hell of a lot different than some asshole confronting a crowd of protesters and getting some vague threat of what may or may not be violence.

For God's sake, if someone throws an EGG at your fucking BUS, you can wash it off!!!

Now stop being such whiny little pussies about nothing.

Oh you mean like the bricks that get thrown through the windows of military recruiting offices

Yeah those dimmies are real peace lovers

And your dimmy heroes are calling people who leave nasty phone messages dangerous

Seems to me you're all pussies

The point is that if a republican protester threw an egg at one of you dimmies, it would be all over the fucking news and reported as hateful violence by the right.

And you know it.

 

[Truthmatters]

Oh, yes, that's so true! The government won't just try to dock your pay or try something else first. They're just going to come to your house and shoot you!

And suppose my employer refuses to dock my pay? Or I'm self employed, what then?

Well then I imagine you can declare bankruptcy and destroy your credit rating. Still no stormtroopers at the door shooting you in the head though.

Ok, what will happen if the insurance company does not comply? What incentives do they have to comply?

Then the insurance company loses it's operating license, and folds. No-one goes into the building and guns down the CEO though.

There's no avoiding it. The end result of disobedience is violence. If you don't pay their taxes, if you don't pay their fines, if you don't fill out their paperwork, If you don't get their permission slips, if you don't follow their orders, someone will eventually threaten you with violence.

You want to talk about an unbelievable hyperbole, Obama told the Military Times editorial board that, "what essentially sets a nation-state apart from the private sector, is a monopoly on violence." That phrase originates from Max Weber, a German lawyer on the commission that drafted the Constitution of the Weimar Republic. That definition of government is accepted by most political scientists today. So don't tell me the government isn't violence, and don't tell me it has nothing to with fascism. I don't play left/right games. They're both National Socialists.

Of course the government uses violence when all other possible options fail, what is your point?

That's how order is kept. That's what stops people from going out and murdering one another when they feel like it.

What you seem to advocating is ANARCHY. Are you an anarchist?

And yes, if you refused to pay taxes, and still continued to use the benefits the country provides every American, than you're a leech and you need to go to jail.

Sorry wrong post

 

[MuslimAgorist]

Well then I imagine you can declare bankruptcy.

Why would I declare bankruptcy? I'm not broke?

Then the insurance company loses it's operating license,

Right... and what happens if you do business without a license?

Of course the government uses violence

Great! So you're simultaneously saying, it's not violence, and of course it's violence. Might want to think that through a little deeper.

Yes, violence is an appropriate tool to discourage murder. Very good. If saying that violence is not an appropriate tool to provide health care makes me anarchist, so be it.

And yes, if you refused to pay taxes, and still continued to use the benefits the country provides every American, than you're a leech and you need to go to jail.

I would rather use a private company, every product, every service, every time. But guess what, the government is a violent MONOPOLY. That means if someone tries to provide the same services in a competitive market, someone from the government eventually threatens them with violence too. If the mafia goes into business selling candy bars, and they intimidate all their competition out of business, and then they steal my wallet and give me a candy bar I'm not a leech on the mafia. So sorry... epic fail.

 

[Vast LWC]

Oh you mean like the bricks that get thrown through the windows of military recruiting offices

Yeah those dimmies are real peace lovers

Really, someone threw some bricks through recruiters windows? I must have missed that story. Send me a link, and I'll rail about that too.

If that happened, then those people need to go to jail. Period.

And your dimmy heroes are calling people who leave nasty phone messages dangerous

"Nasty messages", being: threats to MURDER the FAMILIES of the people involved.

Seems to me you're all pussies

The point is that if a republican protester threw an egg at one of you dimmies, it would be all over the fucking news and reported as hateful violence by the right.

And you know it.

Bullshit. Eggs, pies, fruit, etc are thrown at politicians all the time. No-one says shit about it. You just can't accept that your side is acting like a bunch of little whiny 9-year-old girls.

 

[Misty]

Eggs hurt and they are gooey. And they smell.

Mean liberals.

 

[Vast LWC]

Why would I declare bankruptcy? I'm not broke?

Then why would you be trying to make society pay for your emergency room visits when you become deathly injured or ill???

Right... and what happens if you do business without a license?

Fails, but they're not dead. No bullets flying there.

Great! So you're simultaneously saying, it's not violence, and of course it's violence. Might want to think that through a little deeper.

If you're trying to leech off of society, and the government has tried every single available means to get you to pay, like every other citizen in the nation, then they will arrest you and put in jail, after having a chance to defend your point of view in front of a jury of your peers.

If they try to arrest you and you forcefully resist, that will be the ONLY situation in which the government would use violence.

Yes, violence is an appropriate tool to discourage murder. Very good. If saying that violence is not an appropriate tool to provide health care makes me anarchist, so be it.

I would rather use a private company, every product, every service, every time. But guess what, the government is a violent MONOPOLY. That means if someone tries to provide the same services in a competitive market, someone from the government eventually threatens them with violence too. If the mafia goes into business selling candy bars, and they intimidate all their competition out of business, and then they steal my wallet and give me a candy bar I'm not a leech on the mafia. So sorry... epic fail.

Cool, so leave the country, and find an island where there's no government at all, and perhaps you'll be happy there...

...That is until someone decides to shoot you, or rape your daughter, and you have no one to turn to.



In summary, you would need to really, really try, and commit several crimes along the way, before there was any chance anyone in the government would "shoot you".

So stop being melodramatic, k?

 

[NYcarbineer]

YouTube - Reid Supporters Throw Eggs And Assault Andrew Breitbart

Ooops thats not the tea party being violent, thats the progressives vandalizing private property with eggs and threatening to get violent if a tea party person doesn't leave their midst.

OOOPS

That has nothing to do with tea party violence, genius.

 

[Xenophon]

YouTube - Reid Supporters Throw Eggs And Assault Andrew Breitbart

Ooops thats not the tea party being violent, thats the progressives vandalizing private property with eggs and threatening to get violent if a tea party person doesn't leave their midst.

OOOPS

That has nothing to do with tea party violence, genius.

There is no tea party violence fuck wit.

 

[MuslimAgorist]

why would you be trying to make society pay for your emergency room visits when you become deathly injured or ill???

Ok, you have seriously failed to understand what I'm saying. I don't want to use their emergency rooms. I don't want society to pay for any service I use. And I don't want to pay for any service I don't use. I want the government to stop forcing me to use their services, stop intervening in private businesses that offer competing services, and stop forcing me to pay for stuff I don't want.

If they try to arrest you and you forcefully resist, that will be the ONLY situation in which the government would use violence.

You're really just not paying attention are you.

If I understand you correctly, you're saying, threats of violence are the only way to solve social problems and "keep order", and a peaceful person who hasn't hurt anyone and just wants to stop being threatened should be jailed, or made to live on an island.

Basically, if I disagree with you you support violence against me.

You really are a sick person.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Oh you mean like the bricks that get thrown through the windows of military recruiting offices

Yeah those dimmies are real peace lovers

Really, someone threw some bricks through recruiters windows? I must have missed that story. Send me a link, and I'll rail about that too.

If that happened, then those people need to go to jail. Period.

And your dimmy heroes are calling people who leave nasty phone messages dangerous

"Nasty messages", being: threats to MURDER the FAMILIES of the people involved.

Seems to me you're all pussies

The point is that if a republican protester threw an egg at one of you dimmies, it would be all over the fucking news and reported as hateful violence by the right.

And you know it.

Bullshit. Eggs, pies, fruit, etc are thrown at politicians all the time. No-one says shit about it. You just can't accept that your side is acting like a bunch of little whiny 9-year-old girls.

I've heard some of those phone messages and I got worse when i was a customer service rep.

 

[GWV5903]

I have agreed in many different threads that anyone threatening people with violence or committing violence on either side should be dealt with appropriately.

I just don't believe Andrew Brietbart and his edited videos, specifically, at all.

It does not qualify because it is Breitbart? Is that like everything is going to be transparent, debated on CSPAN for five days, ignoring the will of the people, just checking? Oh, thats right because the POS you elected for POTUS said it, it's OKAY!!!!

Your disingenuous when you claim to detest it from either side, your beginning to mimic The Obaminator, the only POTUS since 1980 that makes Carter look good.....God I would hate to know I made Carter look good, he needs to resign now and see if Habitat will use him.....

 

[Vast LWC]

Ok, you have seriously failed to understand what I'm saying. I don't want to use their emergency rooms. I don't want society to pay for any service I use. And I don't want to pay for any service I don't use. I want the government to stop forcing me to use their services, stop intervening in private businesses that offer competing services, and stop forcing me to pay for stuff I don't want.

You say that now, but then if you're on the verge of death, you will do otherwise.

Ideology disappears real damn quick when you're about to die.

You're really just not paying attention are you.

If I understand you correctly, you're saying, threats of violence are the only way to solve social problems and "keep order", and a peaceful person who hasn't hurt anyone and just wants to stop being threatened should be jailed, or made to live on an island.

A "peaceful person" who is enjoying the benefits of living in our country and refuses to pay for said benefits? Yes.

Basically, if I disagree with you you support violence against me.

You really are a sick person.

If, after all other avenues are exhausted, you are given a fair trial by your peers, and you decide to start shooting up law enforcement personnel rather than be arrested? Yes, most definitely.

I don't personally think it's sick that people might want the laws of the land to be enforced.

Personally I find your insistence on not paying your fair share, even though there is a 0% chance that you would actually refuse treatment in a life-or-death situation, to be rather "sick" behavior.