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[GuyPinestra]

John Galt, the ultimate American terrorist.

Sorry guys. Your Atlas Shrugged wet dream isn't going to happen, no matter how many hyperbolic op-eds you can find.

"Atlas Shurgged" was predicated on the makers downing tools voluntarily. In the the new reality the takers will be assassinated. Dead people don't do much of anything except in Chicago where they vote.

Withholding one's talents from the marketplace is now terrorism?

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are shallow, aren't you, as well as feeble with metaphor.

John Galt, the ultimate American terrorist.

"Atlas Shurgged" was predicated on the makers downing tools voluntarily. In the the new reality the takers will be assassinated. Dead people don't do much of anything except in Chicago where they vote.

Withholding one's talents from the marketplace is now terrorism?

 

[Londoner]

America's coming civil war -- makers vs. takers | Fox News

Those were Abe Lincoln’s words in his first inaugural in 1861, as America was running headlong into civil war. Now we’re a house divided again and another civil war is coming, with the 2012 election as its Gettysburg.

Call it America’s coming civil war between the Makers and the Takers.

You might consider the transition of the American economy from manufacturing to financialization.

This occurred partly when America's wealthy realized that they could get higher returns by having their stuff made in China and the 3rd world. This is when they started shipping solid American jobs the freedom-hating places. For instance, everything Walmart makes is in China. Increasingly, our "makers" don't make stuff here. Indeed, this generation of wealthy people are the least patriotic in American history.

Like a cloud of locusts, the American economy has been hollowed out by the current offshore generation. The current private sector takes subsidies and bailouts, but they make everything overseas and they move all their money offshore so they don't have to help maintain our bridges, roads, schools, hospitals, energy grids . . . all the things they benefited from. It's a ******* joke. Right after Reagan said "give us tax breaks and we'll give you jobs", business began shipping America's manufacturing dominance to sweatshops in China . . . (and FOX News covered up by talking about gay marriage socialist baby killing illegal alien islamo-fascists marxist) . . . [and you bought it]

Here is another interesting thing about this generation of "makers": What do you think they do with the surplus profits earned by making things in Communist China? Those profits are not invested in the real economy of good and services; they don't go to American jobs- rather, increasingly, we see money invested into the phantom Wall Street economy of speculation... hedges, futures, derivatives.

Research how much money the private sector burned in the derivative market. Research the bets they made that they couldn't cover (-it's called leverage son, and it only works when the "makers" take over Washington and turn it into an ATM to cover their losses).

The Reagan Revolution - whose chief goal was financial deregulation - started with the S&L crisis and ended with TARP, drafted by Bush and Paulson.

Never before has a supposed generation of "makers" taken so much from an economy. The best and brightest profited wildly from stuff they knew to be garbage. They systematically placed bets against products they were selling to investors. Right before their risky garbage blew up, they parachuted away with trillions, leaving the economy in ruins. It will take five generations to unbury ourselves from the amount of money your blessed "makers" have taken from future generations. And here's the sad part: you don't have any idea what I'm talking about.

Turn off talk radio son. turn off Fox News. I am begging you.

 

[rdean]

John Galt, the ultimate American terrorist.

Sorry guys. Your Atlas Shrugged wet dream isn't going to happen, no matter how many hyperbolic op-eds you can find.

"Atlas Shurgged" was predicated on the makers downing tools voluntarily. In the the new reality the takers will be assassinated. Dead people don't do much of anything except in Chicago where they vote.

Wrong. Ask Mitt. The "little people" have less rights than corporations. Because Corporations are people my friend. They make jobs so they should rule. Besides, they have the money. Which, according to the right wing, is how it's supposed to be.

 

[Listening]

John Galt, the ultimate American terrorist.

"Atlas Shurgged" was predicated on the makers downing tools voluntarily. In the the new reality the takers will be assassinated. Dead people don't do much of anything except in Chicago where they vote.

Wrong. Ask Mitt. The "little people" have less rights than corporations. Because Corporations are people my friend. They make jobs so they should rule. Besides, they have the money. Which, according to the right wing, is how it's supposed to be.

Didn't the same SCOTUS you so lavishly love because it upheld Obamacare....do this ?

What has Mitt Romney got to do with this ?

 

[Listening]

The Pubs will never vote for health reform. Their megarich masters just LOVE ripping off the country. Now 17%+ of GDP and not guaranteed. Pub dupe morons.

You are nothing but a tape-recorder with an ancient microchip.

You keep praising Romneycare....but pubs will never do health reform ?

You are a moron. Why don't you get in line and go jump off the cliff after your fearless moron leader.....Obama.

 

[Listening]

#557- Total dupe of the greedy rich. Try POLICY!! Crony depression vs Health Reform of COSTS, for the people.

The cost of my health care just went up because of Obamacare.

Thanks.

 

[Londoner]

The private sector barons now own Washington and mass media.

Never before have we seen such a large concentration of wealth in so few hands.

The fortunes of Bill Gates and the Koch brothers prove that Ayn Rand is no longer useful. John Gault no longer lives underground - to the contrary, he funds elections, staffs government, and rules the world.

He doesn't only control Washington, he has an army of think tanks which gives him control of the factual universe. He owns radio and TV stations and he pays unscrupulous pundits to scream "socialism" and "terrorism" and "gay marriage" as he slithers off to the bank. He has the power to convince stupid people that Stalin is knocking at your door and he's going to steal the family pharmacy, as he did to Ayn Rand's father. Here is what today's John Gault isn't telling you: the pharmacy (pharmaceutical) now owns government. [Do you know how much money Eli Lilly paid the GOP congress for the 2003 Drug Bill?]. Corporations run the country in ways that would never happen in Ayn Rand's dystopia. They own politicians and they purchase laws. The private sector is no longer persecuted - they own the world. They have become more powerful than anything Stalin or FDR ever imagined. And don't listen to their propaganda about regulation. The private sector has infiltrated the regulatory apparatus. Please research the commission that convened to decide America's energy policy under Chaney on the eve of the Iraq War. Also, who do you think runs the ******* fed? Or what about our last 5 treasury secretaries? They're from Wall Street, mostly Goldman Sachs. In Ayn Rand's world, free marketeers and deregulators like Greenspan, Rubin, Paulson, Geithner, Summers would not get near the financial levers of power. Open your ******* eyes. The private sector owns Washington. They write their own rules; they take whatever risks they want with the public's money, and then they get bailed out by the politicians who they put in office through their election funding.

The Walton's (Walmart) make more than the bottom 42% combined (-this would be IMPOSSIBLE in Ayn Rand's universe)

John Gault not only lives, he has more concentrated wealth and political power than any man in history. John Gault went to Washington and fell in love. He loved it so much that he bought it. He has nothing to fear from the Pentagon, which protects his supply chains in China, Taiwan, Singapore, Grenada and the Persian Gulf.

(You people have been punk'd by the GOP, who has engineered the biggest wealth grab in world history. Do you want to know what happened at the end of the Bush years? America got rolled plain and simple. The USA was looted by an uber-unpatriotic-globalized-offshore private sector. The game is over for generations)

 

[JakeStarkey]

Our cost for health care was, is, and will be going up despite Obamacare, unless we GOP get serious and get active in reform of affordability, access, and quality care.

I am not thrilled with ACA, but I also know we could have done it from 1994 to 2006 and we piddled on ourselves as a Republican Party.

#557- Total dupe of the greedy rich. Try POLICY!! Crony depression vs Health Reform of COSTS, for the people.

The cost of my health care just went up because of Obamacare.

Thanks.

 

[Pho_King]

Our cost for health care was, is, and will be going up despite Obamacare, unless we GOP get serious and get active in reform of affordability, access, and quality care.

I am not thrilled with ACA, but I also know we could have done it from 1994 to 2006 and we piddled on ourselves as a Republican Party.

#557- Total dupe of the greedy rich. Try POLICY!! Crony depression vs Health Reform of COSTS, for the people.

The cost of my health care just went up because of Obamacare.

Thanks.

Stop referring to yourself as a republican, you ******* lefty parasite.

 

[Mac1958]

Our cost for health care was, is, and will be going up despite Obamacare, unless we GOP get serious and get active in reform of affordability, access, and quality care.

I am not thrilled with ACA, but I also know we could have done it from 1994 to 2006 and we piddled on ourselves as a Republican Party.

#557- Total dupe of the greedy rich. Try POLICY!! Crony depression vs Health Reform of COSTS, for the people.

The cost of my health care just went up because of Obamacare.

Thanks.

Yup, while the ACA is a massive, bloated, nasty pig, the GOP has nothing to crow about. They had plenty of time when they had the power to come up with something, and all we ever got was rhetoric.

Is there not one Republican in DC that has figured out that they need a clear, specific and explainable plan with a catchy name, printed out so that they can wave it at the camera at every freaking opportunity? Seems to me that "repeal & replace" would fire voters up more than "repeal & cross your fingers".

Why in the world is this so difficult for them to grasp?

Or is it just that they don't have a real plan?

.

 

[Listening]

Our cost for health care was, is, and will be going up despite Obamacare, unless we GOP get serious and get active in reform of affordability, access, and quality care.

I am not thrilled with ACA, but I also know we could have done it from 1994 to 2006 and we piddled on ourselves as a Republican Party.

The cost of my health care just went up because of Obamacare.

Thanks.

Yup, while the ACA is a massive, bloated, nasty pig, the GOP has nothing to crow about. They had plenty of time when they had the power to come up with something, and all we ever got was rhetoric.

Is there not one Republican in DC that has figured out that they need a clear, specific and explainable plan with a catchy name, printed out so that they can wave it at the camera at every freaking opportunity? Seems to me that "repeal & replace" would fire voters up more than "repeal & cross your fingers".

Why in the world is this so difficult for them to grasp?

Or is it just that they don't have a real plan?

.

I agree 100%.

 

[Listening]

Our cost for health care was, is, and will be going up despite Obamacare, unless we GOP get serious and get active in reform of affordability, access, and quality care.

I am not thrilled with ACA, but I also know we could have done it from 1994 to 2006 and we piddled on ourselves as a Republican Party.

#557- Total dupe of the greedy rich. Try POLICY!! Crony depression vs Health Reform of COSTS, for the people.

The cost of my health care just went up because of Obamacare.

Thanks.

Yes, well don't leave it Francblo to figure that out on his own.

Health Care in this country (as in others) is a complex issue.

And the GOP let the opportunity to take the lead on the subject slip through their greedy stupid fingers.

I've been pissed about it ever since we killed Hillarycare.....we do have an availability issue.

So I 100% agree with your post.