Americans May Not Be 'Sold' On National Health Care

[Annie]

Just saw this and must say, I'm blown away. I thought nationalized health care was a 'given' from all I've read in the MSM:

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_...alth_insurance_overseen_by_federal_government

29% Favor National Health Insurance Overseen by Federal Government
Wednesday, April 09, 2008
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Twenty-nine percent (29%) of American adults favor a national health insurance program overseen by the Federal Government. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 39% oppose such a government-led initiative while 31% are not sure.

The survey also found that 46% believe the quality of care would decrease under a national health insurance program while 16% believe that quality would increase. Twenty percent (20%) say the quality of care would remain about the same while 18% are not sure.

At the same time, 42% believe the cost of health care would increase while 25% would expect prices to go down.

While opposing a national program overseen by the federal government, Americans support requiring companies to provide health insurance for their employees. Sixty-three percent (63%) favor such a requirement while 24% are opposed.

An earlier survey found that just 31% rate the U.S. health care system as good or excellent.

At the same time, people give much higher reviews to their own health care coverage.

Another survey found that half of all Americans say they support providing free health care for all citizens. However, support for free coverage drops dramatically if it would require changing to a new insurance program.

The current survey found strong partisan differences on all questions.

Republicans strongly oppose national health insurance by a 59% to 25% margin. Democrats are more evenly divided—35% of Democrats favor, 26% oppose, and 39% are not sure. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 25% favor national health insurance overseen by the federal government. Thirty-five percent (35%) of unaffiliateds oppose such a program while 38% are undecided.

Health care is one of the top issues of Election 2008. It has tended to benefit Senator Hillary Clinton over Senator Barack Obama in the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. Looking to the general election, the economy, the War in Iraq, and National Security are the top issues. At this point in time, Senator John McCain is in a competitive race with both Democrats in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll.

 

[nibor]

Just saw this and must say, I'm blown away. I thought nationalized health care was a 'given' from all I've read in the MSM:

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_...alth_insurance_overseen_by_federal_government

Do we need it more faulty and generic than it already is...................

 

[AllieBaba]

The American people aren't half as stupid as the liberals would like to believe.

 

[rayboyusmc]

The American people aren't half as stupid as the liberals would like to believe.

Some of them are. Can you ever say something without a liberal slur?

I wonder if they talked to any of the 50 million who have no health care?

 

[Diuretic]

Americans are probably shielded from the truth about health care in other countries. The vested corporate interests don't want you to know how it's successfully done elsewhere.

But I'm not a vested corporate interest and because I think you should know how things can work I'll provide this link:

http://www.medicareaustralia.gov.au/

and this link if you're not able to click through on the site:

http://www.medicareaustralia.gov.au/about/index.shtml

And it's not perfect, it needs tuning but as a system it works pretty well.

 

[Gunny]

Some of them are. Can you ever say something without a liberal slur?

I wonder if they talked to any of the 50 million who have no health care?

You couldn't possibly have typed that first sentence.

Roughly 50 million have no health care INSURANCE. They STILL get health care. It's illegal to deny it to them.

Guess who foots THAT bill? Those who have insurance. The socialist portion of our government just wants to get their mitts into the money currently going to pay for insurance and redistribute it as they see fit.

Which means they'll bleed us for even more taxes and our health care insurance will go up anyway.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Those are interesting stats. Universal healthcare is just another avenue for govt to collect money. Give, give, give and get nothing in return. What's next with these people? Socialized housing? Socialized food? 10 hour work weeks? When are we ever going to realize that govt isn't the answer to EVERYTHING?

 

[bush lover]

Waahhhh! People don't have health care....waahhh. Whose fault is that? All the lazy bum whiners gotta do is buy health insurance. Wow. What a concept. But no, the productive people in our country are supposed to pay for the bums. God I hate the libs. Thank God our next President will be John McCain, a genuine war hero like our current President, who believes in fighting them over there instead of here, at any cost. Our next President also favors more prisons to house the criminal ingrates in our society, and he backs cutting education, which is a liberal socialist giveaway of our tax dollars. Drown the socialist government in the bath tub.

 

[Gunny]

Waahhhh! People don't have health care....waahhh. Whose fault is that? All the lazy bum whiners gotta do is buy health insurance. Wow. What a concept. But no, the productive people in our country are supposed to pay for the bums. God I hate the libs. Thank God our next President will be John McCain, a genuine war hero like our current President, who believes in fighting them over there instead of here, at any cost. Our next President also favors more prisons to house the criminal ingrates in our society, and he backs cutting education, which is a liberal socialist giveaway of our tax dollars. Drown the socialist government in the bath tub.

Yeah cuz it's SO much better when leeches like you get to suck off my sweat, blood and tax dollars because you won't get your ass out and do what it takes to EARN (you can find the definition for that word at www.dictionary.com) what you have.

Tell me ... do I really walk funny what with your hand stuffed in my wallet every step of the way?

 

[midcan5]

Corporate propaganda is very powerful in America. As a nation information is managed by conservative MSM to give the impression the cure is worse than the cold. In a consumer society ads control likes and dislikes, the 40 million uninsured have no way to express their desires, power resides in money.

 

[nibor]

Waahhhh! People don't have health care....waahhh. Whose fault is that? All the lazy bum whiners gotta do is buy health insurance. Wow. What a concept. But no, the productive people in our country are supposed to pay for the bums. God I hate the libs. Thank God our next President will be John McCain, a genuine war hero like our current President, who believes in fighting them over there instead of here, at any cost. Our next President also favors more prisons to house the criminal ingrates in our society, and he backs cutting education, which is a liberal socialist giveaway of our tax dollars. Drown the socialist government in the bath tub.

Are you just mentally fucking retarded.......................or is your brain death permanent.....

I guess by the "new math" they're counting duh IQ numbers behind duh decimal point............................

 

[Gunny]

Corporate propaganda is very powerful in America. As a nation information is managed by conservative MSM to give the impression the cure is worse than the cold. In a consumer society ads control likes and dislikes, the 40 million uninsured have no way to express their desires, power resides in money.

Conservative MSM?

The fact is, no matter who disseminates the information, when "the cure" is bleeding my wallet dry and hurting ME, it IS worse than the cold.

You socialists are always so busy trying to give handouts to those you figure are deserving. Well, I have to ask, what makes those who don't go out and earn what they have more deserving of what someone who HAS gone out and earned than the person who earned it?

How do you justify what amounts to legalized theft?

You think "universal health care" is going to be so great? What it's going to to do is realign where the money goes, give the government a piece of the action in yet another private sector, and dumb down health care to the mediocre level.

Ask anyone who uses military hospitals what "universal health care" is like.

You make the accusation ... well, here's my counter ... when your socialist utopian idealism cannot and will not EVER be reality, you and those who think like you need to learn to differentiate between your idealism and reality.

That rosey picture you paint will NEVER be reality. Not on this planet among Man.

 

[nibor]

Conservative MSM?

The fact is, no matter who disseminates the information, when "the cure" is bleeding my wallet dry and hurting ME, it IS worse than the cold.

You socialists are always so busy trying to give handouts to those you figure are deserving. Well, I have to ask, what makes those who don't go out and earn what they have more deserving of what someone who HAS gone out and earned than the person who earned it?

How do you justify what amounts to legalized theft?

You think "universal health care" is going to be so great? What it's going to to do is realign where the money goes, give the government a piece of the action in yet another private sector, and dumb down health care to the mediocre level.

Ask anyone who uses military hospitals what "universal health care" is like.

You make the accusation ... well, here's my counter ... when your socialist utopian idealism cannot and will not EVER be reality, you and those who think like you need to learn to differentiate between your idealism and reality.

That rosey picture you paint will NEVER be reality. Not on this planet among Man.

You know Gunny on this I absolutely can't agree with you.................your conservative top knot is too tight..................YOU CAN'T EQUATE THE SCENARIO OR WHAT..................where the fuck do people come off railing people with no health insurance and automaticly equate that with lazy people looking for a hand out...................

 

[Truthmatters]

How very sad.

We have the most expensive health care in the world and are about 20th for care now I think.

Many other western countries have proven that universal healthcare is far cheaper and provides better care.

I find it really sad the Americans just seem to think that other countries are just better than us at delivering universal healthcare and that if we tried to do it we would fuck it all up.

I personally think we could do it even better than other countries because we could study their systems and combine the best elements and make the best system in the world.

We could save money and have a healthier populace or we can just keep the same system and get shittier health care than the rest of the modern world and spend more than every on esle.

 

[nibor]

How very sad.

We have the most expensive health care in the world and are about 20th for care now I think.

Many other western countries have proven that universal healthcare is far cheaper and provides better care.

I find it really sad the Americans just seem to think that other countries are just better than us at delivering universal healthcare and that if we tried to do it we would fuck it all up.

I personally think we could do it even better than other countries because we could study their systems and combine the best elements and make the best system in the world.

We could save money and have a healthier populace or we can just keep the same system and get shittier health care than the rest of the modern world and spend more than every on esle.

Let's start where the fucking problem BEGINS....................NOT WHERE THE PROBLEM ENDS.............PEOPLE NEEDING HEALTHCARE.........

This fucking gubment dangles healthcare in front of us like a carrot on a string.....................the quality is down the shitter , the prices are through the fucking roof......................and who pays for what.........

 

[Truthmatters]

what do you sugest?

 

[nibor]

The solution has to come from where the problems actually lie.................one subject at a time, addressed chronologically, we call ourselves high tech but are drowning in paperwork on all levels...........and that's just the start......................the regulation and deregulation of it all is a fucking joke...............there is no quick fix, and certainly the fucking people getting the FREE HEALTHCARE and deserving it the least really aren't doing their jobs to fix it, there are so many facets to the problem across the board THAT THEY'VE CREATED, for behind the scenes reasons it's sickening.

 

[Swamp Fox]

Considering how well the government runs everything else the last thing we should want is for them to be involved in something else.

 

[Truthmatters]

Nibor,


I think I now understand why people dont respond to most of your posts.

You have no solution in mind at all do you.

You dont even understand the subject.


There are dozens of examples of how a universal system works better and is cheaper than the system we now have. Those are facts.

We can develop a system that works better than all of them if we have hte courage. We will save money and have a healthier populace.

You dont even have the slightest idea of what you speak.

 

[Truthmatters]

Considering how well the government runs everything else the last thing we should want is for them to be involved in something else.

So you think our police and fire deptments are a failure?

You think our roads and rails are a failure?

You think our military is a failure?

Maybe you should leave this one up to the people who actually LOVE this country instead of hate it.