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Pope Leo XIII was very clear that, in the Catholic Church it is not for the sheep to correct the shepherds; and that the obedience that is required of a Catholic is obedience to the present Pope, not some Pope of the past one may find more agreeable [The following was written over 70 years ago by a pope]:
Comments:
This would SEEM to apply only to the OLD Catholic Church, the one that existed before the Vatican was taken over by anti-Christs (yet retains an appearance of Catholicity).
So some Catholics here will note that I do not accept Francis as a true pope and may use the above quote from Pope Leo XIII to argue with me. Oh well, so be it. The Church elsewhere defines what a true pope is and Francis is not it.

One thing required of a pope: has to be CATHOLIC
seems obvious but not in these crazy times...
(Francis is not Catholic)
Pope Leo XIII was very clear that, in the Catholic Church it is not for the sheep to correct the shepherds; and that the obedience that is required of a Catholic is obedience to the present Pope, not some Pope of the past one may find more agreeable [The following was written over 70 years ago by a pope]:
[All statements within brackets are mine, Nomadic5's. Ellipses (...) are for the sake of brevity/clarity, highlighting is also mine]
[It] is not difficult to conclude that among Catholics... there are some who.. think themselves able to take some part in her government, or at least, think they are allowed to examine and judge after their own fashion the acts of [those in] authority [in the Church]. a misplaced opinion... If it were to prevail, it would do very grave harm to the Church of God, in which, by the manifest will of her Divine Founder [Jesus], there are to be distinguished in the most absolute fashion two parties: the teaching and the taught, the Shepherd and the flock, among whom there is one who is the head and the Supreme Shepherd of all [St Peter and all subsequent popes (real ones)].
To the shepherds alone was given all power to teach... [On] the faithful was imposed the duty of following their teaching, of submitting with docility to their judgment... allowing themselves to be governed, corrected, and guided by them in the way of salvation. Thus, it is an absolute necessity for the simple faithful to submit in mind and heart to their own pastors, and for the latter to submit with them to the Head and Supreme Pastor. In this subordination and dependence lie the order and life of the Church.. On the contrary, if it should happen that those who have no right to do so should attribute authority to themselves.. if inferiors in the government of the universal Church attempt or try to exert an influence different from that of the supreme authority, there follows a reversal of the true order, many minds are thrown into confusion, and souls leave the right path.
And to fail in this most holy duty it is not necessary to perform an action in open opposition whether to the Bishops or to the Head of the Church; it is enough for this opposition to be operating indirectly, all the more dangerous because it is the more hidden. Thus, a soul fails in this sacred duty when.. their actions and intentions are interpreted in a captious manner, without waiting for the judgment of the Apostolic See.
Similarly, it is... [an insincere] submission to set up some kind of opposition between one Pontiff and another. Those who, faced with two differing directives, reject the present one to hold to the past, are not giving proof of obedience..
(Pope Leo XIII, Letter Epistola Tua)
Comments:
This would SEEM to apply only to the OLD Catholic Church, the one that existed before the Vatican was taken over by anti-Christs (yet retains an appearance of Catholicity).
So some Catholics here will note that I do not accept Francis as a true pope and may use the above quote from Pope Leo XIII to argue with me. Oh well, so be it. The Church elsewhere defines what a true pope is and Francis is not it.

One thing required of a pope: has to be CATHOLIC
seems obvious but not in these crazy times...
(Francis is not Catholic)
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