Americans are idiots

[Said1]

Yep. Go forth, said1, preach the truth across the frozen steppes of your lib-laden nation. The power of the truth will allow you to speak all languages, and give you energy inexhaustate.

Not today, I have cramps. My ass looks big in everything.

 

[dilloduck]

Not today, I have cramps. My ass looks big in everything.

NP--I have confidence that it'll only take ya a week when ya get started ! :cof:

 

[MrMarbles]

Don't misrepresent my position please. I don't want big business to be able to do whatever it likes. They need to adhere to the laws like the rest of us.

Liberals, embittered by the own envy, look at the world in black and white terms: business bad, socialism good. They do this because they would rather use the power of government to steal from others than learn how to run a business and deal with all the paperwork.

Also they feel intellectually superior because they can regurgitate the wrong, and simplistic priniciples of socialism, due to their attendance of one our many fine leftist indoctrination universities. "Those who can't do, criticize".

Another thing. Libs have us believe that they push for socialism because they're morally superior, attempting to disabuse society of it's greed, when actually they simply wish to use the power of government for their own personal gain. At least business people admit they're in it to make money.

Business people must come up with a good or service people want . Libs seek to confiscate wealth from others, oblivious of what it means to EARN money by providing a marketable good or service.

And also. There is corruption in both business and government. However, corruption in business is controlled by a free market; a manager can only bilk so much and act a tyrant to the degree that he does not ruin his companies ability to compete against other companies. When the stock goes down, he's out of there. Government, having no competition, is only limited by the leaders willingness to use force and suppress information.

Think about it for awhile.

All of your 'theories' on libs are unfounded, generalized and wrong.

Corruptiion in gov't is controlled, by the people, they have the power to change things. A free market cannot control anything, thats why it is free, to allow anybody to what they want. Hello big bussiness just now starting to get its ass in check for wrong doings, enron, ect. Gov't is run by the people. It is not a bussiness, it does not provide goods, it provides for your rights. The right to receive medical care, to school, support net for those abused by big corporations. Not all big bussiness is bad. It's just that Absolute power corrupts absoulutley, and in a free market, they have absolute power.

Oh, oh, let me: The gov becomes the unregulated big business monopoly, which implodes from within...bad.

No offense Said, but being a fellow Canuckistanian, where did you grow up? How where your views formed?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

All of your 'theories' on libs are unfounded, generalized and wrong.

Actually they're proven by history, generalized, and correct. One out of three IS bad.

Corruptiion in gov't is controlled, by the people, they have the power to change things.

Corruption is greatest in government. Have you heard the expression, "Power corrupts, and total power corrupts totally. "?
Government typically has a monopoly on anything it endeavors to do. Economically speaking monopolies lead to high prices, and low quality. THis is an economic fact. Why don't you take some courses in economics. You would be well served.

A free market cannot control anything, thats why it is free, to allow anybody to what they want.

Free markets allow consumers to decide in their everyday purchasing decisions which companies thrive and which ones do not. They vote with their dollars.

Hello big bussiness just now starting to get its ass in check for wrong doings, enron, ect.

Your precious U.N. has committed the biggest fraud in history, under the GUISE Of caring about people. ANd yes there is white collar crime, and it should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Gov't is run by the people.

Yeah. We get to vote once in a while. It is not nearly as responsive to our choices as the market is.

It is not a bussiness, it does not provide goods, it provides for your rights. The right to receive medical care, to school, support net for those abused by big corporations.

Those are goods and services. Government is typically a poor value proposition.

Not all big bussiness is bad. It's just that Absolute power corrupts absoulutley, and in a free market, they have absolute power.

Woah. Deja vu. Who's they? Deregulation and forcing competition and freemarkets is a check and balance system with every consumer deciding the winner on a daily basis with his purchasing decisions. SOcialism eliminates competition, and puts way to much power in the hands of a monolithic government.

No offense Said, but being a fellow Canuckistanian, where did you grow up? How where your views formed?

Marbles, your views are upside down, were you born in China?

 

[Said1]

No offense Said, but being a fellow Canuckistanian, where did you grow up? How where your views formed?

I lived in Calgary for many years, and have spent the last 17yrs living in Ottawa.

My views were formed mainly by working for the government and working within various different social programs. I am also a student who has studied underdevelopment in third world countries to death, and aside from learning about rocks and such, my concentration is in culture and globalization. So, as you see, I have formed my views from both first hand experience, and a little bit of book learnen' heeuck. Any more questions?

Have you seen the new health care plan? 41 billion over 10yrs? No terms, no conditions..... "we got high hopes, high up in the sky hopes"

 

[MrMarbles]

I lived in Calgary for many years, and have spent the last 17yrs living in Ottawa.

My views were formed mainly by working for the government and working within various different social programs. I am also a student who has studied underdevelopment in third world countries to death, and aside from learning about rocks and such, my concentration is in culture and globalization. So, as you see, I have formed my views from both first hand experience, and a little bit of book learnen' heeuck. Any more questions?

Have you seen the new health care plan? 41 billion over 10yrs? No terms, no conditions..... "we got high hopes, high up in the sky hopes"

Just curious. At least you have some first hand knowledge behind you.

RWA history has proven that when econonmy for the rich is pushed ahead above everything else, oppression is not far behind. Your extremists views for the right will only hurt people. Join the centre, their is alo t more of us over here, and we know how to party!

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Just curious. At least you have some first hand knowledge behind you.

RWA history has proven that when econonmy for the rich is pushed ahead above everything else, oppression is not far behind. Your extremists views for the right will only hurt people. Join the centre, their is alo t more of us over here, and we know how to party!

We have minimum wages, environmental protections, workplace standards, graduated income tax (so the rich "pay their share" like you communists like). No one is advocating pushing the economy ahead of all else for the rich. We DO recognize however that capitalism and profit is the golden goose from which the money for your programs flows. Everything in life has a cost. I'm just asking you to acknowledge reality. Can you do that?

It's funny, Marbles, that you consider yourself a centrist!

 

[MrMarbles]

We have minimum wages, environmental protections, workplace standards, graduated income tax (so the rich "pay their share" like you communists like). No one is advocating pushing the economy ahead of all else for the rich. We DO recognize however that capitalism and profit is the golden goose from which the money for your programs flows. Everything in life has a cost. I'm just asking you to acknowledge reality. Can you do that?

It's funny, Marbles, that you consider yourself a centrist!

Captialism works. Ultra-capitalism corrupts, and oppresses. America is great, it is all about the winning. Unfortunatley for every one person that 'wins' hundreds need to lose. One gets rich and succeds of the backs of others. There need to be the proper checks in place to help them.

And in the grand scheme of things, I am centre, well okay, centre left.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Captialism works. Ultra-capitalism corrupts, and oppresses. America is great, it is all about the winning. Unfortunatley for every one person that 'wins' hundreds need to lose. One gets rich and succeds of the backs of others. There need to be the proper checks in place to help them.

And in the grand scheme of things, I am centre, well okay, centre left.

Checks like minimum wage, working standards, income tax, corporate tax, we have them. There is no ultracapitalism in the world. This is just a sloppy slippery slope argument. Very high school debate team.

 

[MrMarbles]

Checks like minimum wage, working standards, income tax, corporate tax, we have them. There is no ultracapitalism in the world. This is just a sloppy slippery slope argument. Very high school debate team.

An arguement you love to employ.

 

[eric]

There need to be the proper checks in place to help them

Simple question, WHY ?????????

Think of capitalism as natural selection at it's finest !!!

 

[rtwngAvngr]

An arguement you love to employ.

Because I've never gotten an answer about what you mean by regulated capitalism.

 

[MrMarbles]

Because I've never gotten an answer about what you mean by regulated capitalism.

You've gotten plenty. Not just by my, but isaac and others aswell.

Simple question, WHY ?????????

To prevent oppression.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

You've gotten plenty. Not just by my, but isaac and others aswell.

No I haven't. All I've gotten from Isaac is proof of his ignorance of the tragedies of government monopolies.

What do you mean by regulated captialism? Anyone please answer. is it taxation? Minimum wages? Working conditions? What is it?