American beaten to death by Israeli settlers in the West Bank

[The Sage of Main Street]

Try telling his family.

Vermin Virtues

His parents sent him to die. Now they are strutting around their village, being applauded for their "heroic sacrifice." It's worked out well for them.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Shusha]

Sure he did you liar.

Why are you holding onto this "liar" accusation?

Is your claim that Palestinians in contested land in Area C NEVER commit acts of violence, such as throwing stones, starting fires, and placing IEDs?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

What do you call a smoldering pile of 1000 dead Palestinians?..... a good start

The "American " was hamas. He wasn't killed he was "Corried".

 

[Deadstick]

Vermin Virtues

His parents sent him to die. Now they are strutting around their village, being applauded for their "heroic sacrifice." It's worked out well for them.

Why are you holding onto this "liar" accusation?

Is your claim that Palestinians in contested land in Area C NEVER commit acts of violence, such as throwing stones, starting fires, and placing IEDs?

That is called resistance to Zionist/settler violence and occupation.

 

[Shusha]

That is called resistance to Zionist/settler violence and occupation.

Alright, so you admit that Palestinians ALSO commit violent acts and that, therefore, the conflict is mutual.

 

[Shusha]

That is called resistance to Zionist/settler violence and occupation.

Right, so your argument is that one party to the conflict is permitted to use violence, including against civilians, while the other party to the conflict must never.

And your justification for the use of violence against civilians, is that Israelis (Jews) shouldn't be permitted to live in Judea and Samaria. Therefore they must be "resisted" (with violence) until they are dead or fled. That doesn't sound like "ethnic cleansing" to you?

 

[Deadstick]

Right, so your argument is that one party to the conflict is permitted to use violence, including against civilians, while the other party to the conflict must never.

And your justification for the use of violence against civilians, is that Israelis (Jews) shouldn't be permitted to live in Judea and Samaria. Therefore they must be "resisted" (with violence) until they are dead or fled. That doesn't sound like "ethnic cleansing" to you?

Many of those so called settlers are from America and Europe, they have no right to be there at all, and they certainly don't have the right to steal Palestinian farmland and attack villages and Homes, if you think that is acceptable you have a screw loose

 

[Deadstick]

Alright, so you admit that Palestinians ALSO commit violent acts and that, therefore, the conflict is mutual.

No the conflict isn't mutual, settlers are attacking Palestinian villages and land.
the reality.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Shusha]

Many of those so called settlers are from America

You mean like the American who was tragically killed while "resisting" the theft of "his" land? That kind of American?

they have no right to be there at all, and they certainly don't have the right to steal Palestinian farmland and attack villages and Homes,

They are doing no such thing. Until there is a final peace treaty between Israel and any emerging State of Palestine, the territory is under Israeli control. (Private land excepted, and this is NOT privately-owned land. There is very, very little privately-owned land in Area C. Also land laws are complicated.)

if you think that is acceptable you have a screw loose

Here's the thing - I don't think that attacking villages and homes using violence is acceptable for EITHER side. I think mine is a much more reasonable position to take than yours.

 

[Shusha]

No the conflict isn't mutual, settlers are attacking Palestinian villages and land.

Palestinians are ALSO attacking Israeli villages and land. You've admitted so. Mutual.

 

[toobfreak]

Yep. Sure enough. What his family actually said: a group of settlers assaulted Musallet while he was defending his land
"while defending his land" Translation: while committing an act of terrorism.

Pretty much what I expected as soon as I saw it emphasized that an "American" was attacked. It was just another Palestinian who just happened to be living in America, went home to Palestine to do Palestinian stuff with his other Palestinian friends and family and the Israelis just had enough of it.

I realize that not all Palestinians are bad but 80% of them do support Hamas and the wanton killing of Jews.

 

[Shusha]

I realize that not all Palestinians are bad but 80% of them do support Hamas and the wanton killing of Jews.

Area C is a really difficult territory to manage. Two peoples, each of whom feels an existential threat from the other and each of whom has a valid moral and legal claim to the land, living in close proximity to one another, and left (more-or-less) by their respective governments to fight it out square foot by square foot. Both peoples are using violence. Both peoples are using "possession is the whole law". Both peoples are using lawfare.

And ethnic cleansing is abhorrent no matter who is doing it.

 

[Deadstick]

Palestinians are ALSO attacking Israeli villages and land. You've admitted so. Mutual.

What Israeli villages? there shouldn't be any in the occupied West Bank but there are illegal settlements and Palestinians couldn't attack them because the IDF would kill them and the crazy settlers are armed to the teeth.

 

[Deadstick]

Pretty much what I expected as soon as I saw it emphasized that an "American" was attacked. It was just another Palestinian who just happened to be living in America, went home to Palestine to do Palestinian stuff with his other Palestinian friends and family and the Israelis just had enough of it.

I realize that not all Palestinians are bad but 80% of them do support Hamas and the wanton killing of Jews.

The foreign and lunatic settlers had enough of it, bollocks, and the guy who was killed was a US Citizen.

 

[Shusha]

What Israeli villages? there shouldn't be any in the occupied West Bank but there are illegal settlements and Palestinians couldn't attack them because the IDF would kill them and the crazy settlers are armed to the teeth.

You are arguing for ethnic cleansing. Once the "West Bank" was ethnically cleansed of Israelis (Jews) by Jordan in 1948, no Jews are ever to be permitted to live in that territory again? If Israelis (Jews) do move there (entirely legally, btw), they must be ethnically cleansed again? This is a morally abhorrent stance to take.

 

[Roudy]

Sure he did you liar.

There hasn’t been a single claim or assertion coming out of the scum you defend that is coming from a legitimate reliable source or has had an ounce of truth in it. It’s all lies and garbage.

 

[Roudy]

Vermin Virtues

His parents sent him to die. Now they are strutting around their village, being applauded for their "heroic sacrifice." It's worked out well for them.

Psychos defending and rooting for sickos. That’s the dynamic occurring on the pro Pali side.

 

[Roudy]

The foreign and lunatic settlers had enough of it, bollocks, and the guy who was killed was a US Citizen.

The so called “West Bank” is actually Judeah and Samaria of ancient Israel. Jewish presence in that land goes back over 3000 years.

Arabs are the invaders.