America....The Present and The Future

[gipper]

"Liberals founded this country..."

Hardly.

The 'Liberals" to whom you refer are the Socialist Party.
They didn't exist when this country was founded.


Fact:

The "Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The Founders were'classical liberals,' whose vision included individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them



Now....which 'Liberals' today espouse individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

Certainly not the socialists/communists known as the Democrat Party

The 'Liberals" to whom you refer are the Socialist Party.
They didn't exist when this country was founded.

Damn...talk about melodramatic hyperbole

Our founding fathers were the greatest liberals of their era....they used to tar and feather conservatives like you

"Our founding fathers were the greatest liberals of their era"

Which of your contemporary 'Liberals' favor individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government?

None, huh.




I can't recall a day I didn't catch you lying....

Can you?

Liberals love individualism and free markets. We also understand there are times when they must be regulated

Limited constitutional government? We believe in the right sized constitutional government

Just curious.....why is it that lying is never a bother to you socialists/communists?

I am the most honest poster on USMB

Yeah just like BO and Cankles are the most honest pols.

 

[rightwinger]

Yup.....look at the source.

Damn skippy!

Progressives are responsible for every major social initiative in this country

If one were to define modern American liberalism in one sentence, what would it be?

After a few minutes of thought, here is my definition:
The belief that government controlled by a few select elites, should be granted the unlimited power to control the lives of all Americans.

I will defer to JFK for his definition of a liberal

What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

 

[gipper]

Yup.....look at the source.

Damn skippy!

Progressives are responsible for every major social initiative in this country

If one were to define modern American liberalism in one sentence, what would it be?

After a few minutes of thought, here is my definition:
The belief that government controlled by a few select elites, should be granted the unlimited power to control the lives of all Americans.

I will defer to JFK for his definition of a liberal

What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

You have nothing in common with JFK and neither does modern liberalism. He believed in limited government and the Constitution. You and modern liberalism do not.

 

[rightwinger]

Yup.....look at the source.

Damn skippy!

Progressives are responsible for every major social initiative in this country

If one were to define modern American liberalism in one sentence, what would it be?

After a few minutes of thought, here is my definition:
The belief that government controlled by a few select elites, should be granted the unlimited power to control the lives of all Americans.

I will defer to JFK for his definition of a liberal

What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

You have nothing in common with JFK and neither does modern liberalism. He believed in limited government and the Constitution. You and modern liberalism do not.

Too funny

Coming from the same branch of the Republican Party that accused JFK of hating the Constitution and being a communist

 

[P@triot]

Liberals love individualism and free markets. We also understand there are times when they must be regulated

Liberals love the collective. Where everyone is forced to row in the exact same direction. Why do you think you can lie to us RW? We've seen all of your posts and all of the posts of your fellow liberals calling for the collective and openly admitting that you could give a shit about the individual.

Limited constitutional government? We believe in the right sized constitutional government

RW - liberals have no idea what constitutional government is. None of you have ever read the document and whenever one of us posts a section of it as proof - you guys deliberately attempt to misconstrue what it means to fit your agenda.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yup.....look at the source.

Damn skippy!

Progressives are responsible for every major social initiative in this country

Progressives are responsible for ending the guidance of the Constitution.
Fact is, under Progressive Woodrow Wilson, America was the first fascist nation on earth.

During WW I, under the Progressive Woodrow Wilson, American was a fascist nation.

1. Had the world’s first modern propaganda ministry
2. Political prisoners by the thousands were harassed, beaten, spied upon and thrown in jail for simply expressing private opinions.
3. The national leader accused foreigners and immigrants of injecting treasonous ‘poison’ into the American bloodstream
4. Newspapers and magazines were closed for criticizing the government
5. Almost 100,000 government propaganda agents were sent out to whip up support for the regime and the war
6. College professors imposed loyalty oaths on their colleagues
7. Nearly a quarter million ‘goons’ were given legal authority to beat and intimidate ‘slackers’ and dissenters
8. Leading artists and writers dedicated their work to proselytizing for the government.

http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Classical_Liberalism_vs_Modern_Liberal_Conservatism.pdf p. 9



Got any other lies today?

 

[P@triot]

I am the most honest poster on USMB

RW - you're exactly like Hillary Clinton. You're a pathological liar. You can't even help yourself. The fact that you attempt to credit liberals with founding this country, freeing slaves and leading the Civil Rights movement when it was Republican's/conservatives that did all of those things is proof enough of what a pathological liar you are.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yup.....look at the source.

Damn skippy!

Progressives are responsible for every major social initiative in this country

If one were to define modern American liberalism in one sentence, what would it be?

After a few minutes of thought, here is my definition:
The belief that government controlled by a few select elites, should be granted the unlimited power to control the lives of all Americans.

Ooo....ooooo.......,call on me!!!!

Liberalism:

collectivization, unquestioning lock-step adherence to government policies, over-regulation, and unlimited central command and control governance.....'

 

[P@triot]

I can do that too RW - see....


Conservatives
....giving transgenders access to any bathrooom they want since 1776.
and we won't stop now

 

[P@triot]

You know....the thought just occurred to me that maybe RW isn't a pathological liar. Maybe he's just so stupid that he believes a liberal propaganda meme on the internet is historical fact. That would explain why he needs government to care for him as well.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Liberals founded this country..."

Hardly.

The 'Liberals" to whom you refer are the Socialist Party.
They didn't exist when this country was founded.


Fact:

The "Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The Founders were'classical liberals,' whose vision included individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them



Now....which 'Liberals' today espouse individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

Certainly not the socialists/communists known as the Democrat Party

The 'Liberals" to whom you refer are the Socialist Party.
They didn't exist when this country was founded.

Damn...talk about melodramatic hyperbole

Our founding fathers were the greatest liberals of their era....they used to tar and feather conservatives like you

"Our founding fathers were the greatest liberals of their era"

Which of your contemporary 'Liberals' favor individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government?

None, huh.




I can't recall a day I didn't catch you lying....

Can you?

Liberals love individualism and free markets. We also understand there are times when they must be regulated

Limited constitutional government? We believe in the right sized constitutional government

Just curious.....why is it that lying is never a bother to you socialists/communists?

I am the most honest poster on USMB

"RIGHT-winger"????????????????



Gee, that one was easy.

 

[P@triot]

"RIGHT-winger"???????????????? Gee, that one was easy.

Have you ever seen anyone quite like him? He actually started years ago by claiming the was "right-wing" because he actually believed he could change conservatives into liberals by claiming to be on the right but preaching about how wonderful left-wing policy was. Pathological liar. Not to mention immature. And naïve.

 

[P@triot]

Conservatives​

....leading the fight for gay marriage since 1776.

and we won't stop now​

 

[initforme]

Oh god, the founding fathers pop up again. Some of them were slave owners. Buff said.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You know....the thought just occurred to me that maybe RW isn't a pathological liar. Maybe he's just so stupid that he believes a liberal propaganda meme on the internet is historical fact. That would explain why he needs government to care for him as well.

Maybe both.....


Our pal Leftwinger is a congenital liar....and so old that when he started lying,
the Dead Sea was just feeling ill.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"RIGHT-winger"???????????????? Gee, that one was easy.

Have you ever seen anyone quite like him? He actually started years ago by claiming the was "right-wing" because he actually believed he could change conservatives into liberals by claiming to be on the right but preaching about how wonderful left-wing policy was. Pathological liar. Not to mention immature. And naïve.

"Have you ever seen anyone quite like him?"

Far too many.

 

[P@triot]

Conservatives​

....leading the fight for gay marriage since 1776.

and we won't stop now

Oh god, the founding fathers pop up again. Some of them were slave owners. Buff said.

"Buff said"?

 

[rightwinger]

Liberals love individualism and free markets. We also understand there are times when they must be regulated

Liberals love the collective. Where everyone is forced to row in the exact same direction. Why do you think you can lie to us RW? We've seen all of your posts and all of the posts of your fellow liberals calling for the collective and openly admitting that you could give a shit about the individual.

Limited constitutional government? We believe in the right sized constitutional government

RW - liberals have no idea what constitutional government is. None of you have ever read the document and whenever one of us posts a section of it as proof - you guys deliberately attempt to misconstrue what it means to fit your agenda.

Hardly

Liberals want a government that helps those that need help. A government that does what needs to be done as dictated by We the People

Liberals are fully aware of what a Constitutional government is...we wrote it

 

[P@triot]

Liberals want a government that helps those that need help.

Boom! Game Over right there. A governmet that "helps those in need" is not constitutional government. Also - proof that you've never read the U.S. Constitution.

 

[rightwinger]

The 'Liberals" to whom you refer are the Socialist Party.
They didn't exist when this country was founded.

Damn...talk about melodramatic hyperbole

Our founding fathers were the greatest liberals of their era....they used to tar and feather conservatives like you

"Our founding fathers were the greatest liberals of their era"

Which of your contemporary 'Liberals' favor individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government?

None, huh.




I can't recall a day I didn't catch you lying....

Can you?

Liberals love individualism and free markets. We also understand there are times when they must be regulated

Limited constitutional government? We believe in the right sized constitutional government

Just curious.....why is it that lying is never a bother to you socialists/communists?

I am the most honest poster on USMB

"RIGHT-winger"????????????????



Gee, that one was easy.

As many are not aware, I was named after my maternal grandfather Rightwinger McGee. He was a minor league pitcher in the Chicago White Sox organization in the 1920s. As fate would have it...he was a southpaw