America Doesn't Have The Moral Justification To Enter Into the Israel/Iran War!

[BluesLegend]

Iran has been killing Americans non-stop since 1979. What's been needed is a president with the balls to hit back so hard they will never dare kill Americans again!!!

 

[0311]

Imagine you have a next door neighbor who, for no apparent reason, has publicly declared that he is going to blow up your house, with you and your family in it. He proceeds to buy the chemicals necessary to make explosive materials and does experiments in his basement, just waiting for the day when he has the expertise and sufficient exploding material to blow up your house (and the houses of anyone else he doesn't like).

Do his public declarations and provable basement activities warrant your preemptively taking action to keep it from happening?

I say, Yes.

As for President Trump, there is no "three-dimensional chess" going on here. The MINUTE the Iranians directly attack U.S. assets in the region, killing American soldiers, President Trump will authorize our Armed Forces to take OFFENSIVE action against the Iranian regime.

Until that time, our forces will assist the Israeli forces with targeting appropriate Iranian facilities and people, tracking incoming assets for the purpose of intercepting them, and providing whatever other services are requested.

President Trump is reluctant, as we all are, to FORCE regime change. These activities seem never to work out as planned. But if the Iranian people overthrow their government, that would be perfectly fine, and Trump would not interfere with the head Mullah going off into exile, in Russia or elsewhere.

This is not complicated.

NOT even to a fair comparison. Iran is a nuclear power. Israel is a nuclear power and Russian a primary trading partner with Iran (they use Iranian Drones against Ukraine). Any U.S. military intervention would force Russia to react.

 

[BluesLegend]

STOP electing these punk ass bitches like Obama and Biden who appease Iran while Iran kills Americans.

 

[Rigby5]

You don't need a moral justification to start a war.

Ah yes you, according to the UN charter that we ratified.
The only legal war is defense, so then the other person started it.
You not only need a moral justification, but you legally have to get the UN to agree to it.
The US has just been ignoring our own laws.

 

[excalibur]

Iran regularly chants 'death to America', and have killed many Americans since the Jimmy Carter aided and abetted revolution.

 

[Rigby5]

Most Americans don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons.

Irrelevant.
Most Americans supported the illegal invasion of Iraq, the illegal war in Vietnam, etc.
The US population have very poor concepts of law and ethics.

 

[Foxfyre]

Why don't you compose your thoughts before posting?

1. Is it moral for the US to oppose Iran producing nuclear weapons?
2. If yes, how should the US go about doing this?
3. If negotiation fails, should the US take direct action against Iran?
4. If yes, what action should that include?

If you can't or won't answer these questions, your opinions on this subject are worthless.

Other important questions:

1. Does U.S. and world intelligence agree with Israel that Iran is on the verge of producing a usable nuclear weapon?

2. If the answer is yes, does a country dedicated to exporting terrorism throughout the world, obliterating Israel and doing as much damage to the USA provide the moral authority to take out that country's nuclear capability?

 

[Rigby5]

The U.S. has the moral justification and the imperative to save the world from nuclear war. If it means the use of a single bunker buster bomb so be it.

Wrong.
If Iran produces nuclear weapons, it makes the world safer because it can only be used as a deterrent against invasion.
It is attacking Iran that ensures a nuclear war because it would be illegal and require China, Russia, Pakistan and even India to retaliate against us.

There is no way the US can stop Iran.
They do not have a single enrichment facility, but dozens of them, and too deep even for our best bunker busters.

And the US gets the least say, since we are the most in violation of laws we ratified, against the very invasions we are guilty of.

 

[Blaster]

Irrelevant.
Most Americans supported the illegal invasion of Iraq, the illegal war in Vietnam, etc.
The US population have very poor concepts of law and ethics.

Nonsense.

 

[Rigby5]

Are you retarded?? Iran has threatened the U.S. and put hit out on a U.S. president.

That is simply a lie.
What Iran has actually said is not in English, and the translations have been falsely altered to claim to be threats.

And anyone claiming Iranians would hire an assassin, is crazy.
Clearly the have their own snipers who are much more reliable.
And in fact a $200 drone could easily kill anyone who goes outside.

 

[Blaster]

That is simply a lie.
What Iran has actually said is not in English, and the translations have been falsely altered to claim to be threats.

And anyone claiming Iranians would hire an assassin, is crazy.
Clearly the have their own snipers who are much more reliable.
And in fact a $200 drone could easily kill anyone who goes outside.

Bullshit.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Newsflash. So-called "Christian" holy guys are just mean, rotten, child molesting scum bags as well. Mullahs holy men. Not all Ministers, Chaplains, Rabbis are pure as the driven snow. Just at all Reich Winger Ministers who have been bused child abuse.

Perhaps try to stay on topic

 

[Rigby5]

It's LONG OVERDUE that the world stop taking shit off Iran. That little yipper dog needs a good kick.

Wrong.
It is the US who should be punished for the illegal take over and destruction of the democracy in Iran in 1953.
It was called Operation Ajax.
Look it up.
Iran did not get its freedom back until 1979.

 

[DonGlock26]

Newsflash. So-called "Christian" holy guys are just mean, rotten, child molesting scum bags as well. Mullahs holy men. Not all Ministers, Chaplains, Rabbis are pure as the driven snow. Just at all Reich Winger Ministers who have been bused child abuse.

Hell, Joe Biden showered with his own daughter. Dems are all groomers.

 

[Rigby5]

I responded to your post how wrong Mullahs are wrong, I simply point Christianity has it own fair amount whack jobs.

The Mullahs are better than what we have because at least they give out free public health care.
And unlike the US, they never attacked anyone.

 

[0311]

Perhaps try to stay on topic

You stop stereotyping religious leader who are NOT Christian. What YOU wrote was way off topic as well, try to remember that.

 

[DonGlock26]

Progressives wanted WWIII a few months ago. Now, they don't want Iran's nuclear mountain hit with one
conventional bomb.

 

[Rigby5]

STOP electing these punk ass bitches like Obama and Biden who appease Iran while Iran kills Americans.

Wrong.
It is the US who is the murderer, like half a million innocent Iraqis.
Who would bomb civilian water and electricity in a desert?
But that evil act is what the US did.

 

[Manonthestreet]

You stop stereotyping religious leader who are NOT Christian.

Are they not insane......Checkmate. Now back to the topic

 

[Rigby5]

Iran regularly chants 'death to America', and have killed many Americans since the Jimmy Carter aided and abetted revolution.

That is just a media lie.
What the Iranians are saying actually translates to "defeat" imperialism.

Iran was an illegal military dictatorship after 1953, so anyone who believes in the principles of a republic, should support Iran forcing the Shah to leave and becoming a republic.