America could conquer canada in a month if it wanted too

[AZrailwhale]

All the peace keeping, NATO operation in Kosovo, and oh, Afghanistan. We went there with you from the start. And when you decided on that folly in Iraq, we increased our presence in Afghanistan so you could pull your troops out to go to Iraq.

What units did you send? All I can find were support troops. KFOR was the Kosovo operation.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Trump likes to present "outrageous" statements to shock and trigger the opposition, jerk their chains, and get their nickers in a knot.
Once you know him better, you can tell if he's serious or just "tongue in cheek".

Is this how you believe things should be run?

 

[Stryder50]

America could conquer canada in a month if it wanted too and have our flag flying over Parliament. Lets be honest. Canada should be shitting its pants by the threats of Donald Trump. He will be president of the most powerful country on earth!!!

America has 10 times the military and budget...It has a real navy that can easily shut it off from the rest of the world and bomb all its cities until it surrenders without much efford. It wouldn't even need a huge amount of ground troops. Just airforce and navy to force submission.

If it wanted to send land forces it would collapse faster then iraq did. It military wise was a more serious nation and was more focused on power projection then canada is currently capable of doing. That is a fact. Canada depends on the United states for its defense and probably should consider merging with us. I think 5-6 states would be the best way to go!

Why would America(USA) want to attack and conquer Canada ???
The USA is well served with a friendly neighbor to the North that has often operated in mutual interests internationally, plus be a source of mutual beneficial trade and markets.

This is mostly a "bong dream".

 

[IM2]

Trump won because the majority disagree with you. Only 5% of Americans give a crap about J6, in effect, only 5% think it was an insurrection, 95% know better.

I think it's best to stick to the thread topic.

Trump got 49 percent of the vote. So the majority didn't disagree.

 

[Stryder50]

Is this how you believe things should be run?

Nope.
Just mentioning how things are done in campaign, and at rallies especially.
Not how he speaks when in a serious interview.

 

[IM2]

Is this how you believe things should be run?

He's got to be crazy. Trump isn't doing any of the things Stryder claims.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

He's got to be crazy. Trump isn't doing any of the things Stryder claims.

Yea, I know. It's what political said extremists do.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Only idiots talk about invading Canada.

And the military would not permit it.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Well "BS not Truth" it's clear you know very little to nothing of military or tactics, or history.

As one who has studied Military History and Methods for over 50 years it becomes clear that Strategy and Tactics have remained fundamentally the same since the start of warfare, usually only slight adjustment and/or variation based on tech advance and weaponry changes.

Sun Tzu's "The Art of War" remains as valid now as it did c. 500 BC +/-.

The Art of War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

However, if you actually understood my post, you'd realize that the bulk of it addressed an oft overlooked and/or lightly considered aspect of Military skill and art, Logistics.
....
1. The aspect of military operations that deals with the procurement, distribution, maintenance, and replacement of materiel and personnel.
2. The management of the details of an operation.
....

The American Heritage Dictionary entry: logistics

The American Heritage Dictionary entry: logistics

ahdictionary.com

OR;

Logistics - Wikipedia​

As for "still living in the mid 1980s", not sure how you came to this conclusion unless this is a bit of projection on your own small and limited knowledge and understanding of the subject.

Well "BS not Truth" it's clear you know very little to nothing of military or tactics, or history.

It's clear you're full of shit.

As one who has studied Military History and Methods for over 50 years it becomes clear that Strategy and Tactics have remained fundamentally the same since the start of warfare, usually only slight adjustment and/or variation based on tech advance and weaponry changes.

Every few thousand years there's a paradigm shift in how humanity organizes and manages its communities, labor, production, logistics, politics.. etc., and how it fights its wars. We're now experiencing one of those epic paradigm shifts due to advanced automation in robotics (including drones), AGI, quantum computing, 3D printing, DeFi/DEX crypto..etc. Non-state actors can leverage these technologies to wage war against the state in many ways. Your assertion that only the government will be empowered by this technology, not revolutionaries, is quite naive.

We're entering a unique age in our history due to the aforementioned technology, which inevitably, irrespective of whatever the current ruling elites are planning to unleash on the working-class, to secure their vested interests and power, is going to emancipate the masses from their masters. Adam Smith the father of industrial Age capitalism wrote:

"What are the common wages of labor, depends everywhere upon the contract usually made between those two parties, whose interests are by no means the same. The workmen desire to get as much, the masters to give as little as possible. The former are disposed to combine (To form labor unions) in order to raise, the latter in order to lower the wages of labor.


It is not, however, difficult to foresee which of the two parties must, upon all ordinary occasions, have the advantage in the dispute, and force the other into a compliance with their terms. The masters, being fewer in number, can combine (In the form of chambers of commerce, industry-specific associations, guilds, super-PACs, non-profit front organizations/NGOs, armies of lobbyists bribing politicians in the halls of government, think tanks staffed by Ivy league analysts and scholars who write the papers and legislation that they hand to the lobbyists, to give to their cronies in the US Congress) much more easily; and the law, besides, authorises, or at least does not prohibit their combinations, while it prohibits those of the workmen.

We have no acts of parliament against combining to lower the price of work; but many against combining to raise it. In all such disputes the masters can hold out much longer. " (Wealth Of Nations - Book I, Chapter VIII)

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What the capitalists refer to as "consumers" are going to be fully empowered by all of the advanced automation, robotics, AI..etc. Guerillas, revolutionaries, in the 21st century are also much more empowered. It's perhaps the most dangerous time in history for plutocratic, oligarchal regimes that serve the vested interests of the rich to the detriment of the working class. The state that serves the wealthy at the expense of the public today, is in the worst position it has ever been in.

The masters are now more than ever asserting their power because they know the writing is on the wall:

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It's not the working class (94% of the population), that needs a UBI (Universal Basic Income - which will quickly become a UI - Universal Income - the only income most people will have under this obsolete capitalist system that relies on wages), it's the capitalists who need the government to pay their current customer base a UBI/UI, to keep capitalism alive on life-support for a few more decades or maybe even a century or two (That's their intention, but their plan isn't going to materialize as they envision it).

They're pushing for a MASSIVE government intervention that will secure their control over the means of production, transforming (or maybe I should say, mutating) a productive working-class (The American workforce is the most productive and overworked labor force in the world), into a worthless consumer serf-class, relying on a monthly government check, whose only purpose is to buy stuff from the ruling class (their masters), keeping them wealthy and empowered.

Elon Musk and his ilk, plan to own everything, and the FORMER working class, replaced by genius, incredibly dexterous robots and other autonomous, intelligent systems, will be living under an oppressive, plutocratic, techno-feudalist dictatorship, openly, brazenly run by the current wealthy, capitalist class. That's what they want, but it's not what they're going to achieve, because the actual outcome of all of this advanced automation isn't capitalist control of resources or production, it's the full empowerment of the working class. That's the reality.

When society is able to practically, for all intents and purposes, automate the supply chain, from the mine to the retail outlet, that's the end of for-profit production and the need for wages and paying customers. Human labor and priorities will completely change from working for a wage, to working part-time, as a supervisor, for direct access to goods and services—the human monitoring and accounting of autonomous systems.

Labor alongside efficient, autonomous, intelligent robots, takes the form of supervision, and reporting. It becomes a civic duty like serving the court as a juror. You give 20 hours weekly to supervise the system and in return you get everything. Home, vehicle, domestic robots, all of the modern amenities, more food you can eat, healthcare, education, and a level of recreation you'll never experience as a working-class wage-slave-drone under a capitalist master.

Do you actually believe the current ruling elites are going to be able to deprive the working class of all of the above, by asserting their current power that is built upon wages and profits? It's socialism for the rich when the government is bailing them out monthly with a UBI/UI, creating an artificial, unproductive customer base. Why use the government for that, when the working class can simply employ the government to assist with planning production, in collaboration with labor cooperatives?

The workplace will be managed by worker owned cooperatives in collaboration with a government staffed by elected delegates under the constant scrutiny of their constituents. The prospect of quickly being recalled and replaced by someone else if they're proven incompetent or corrupt by the electorate keeps the government under the heel of the working class (of the people).

In the long term, Elon Musk and his fellow billionaires won't be able to control our government and the state won't be able to fight a well-organized and equipped, high-tech guerilla. I will leave it up to your imagination what 21st century guerilla forces will be able to achieve using the latest technology. Technology is a force multiplier and the government of a country that portrays itself as a democracy, a constitutional Republic, can only go so far in heavy-handedly controlling its population before the shit hits the fan. You're incredibly naive if you believe guerilla warfare is impossible or less effective today than in the past.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Only idiots talk about invading Canada.

And the military would not permit it.

It's absolute nonsense.