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^ You clearly did not watch the speech. You are just repeating what other people have told you about it. Watch it from front to back and then tell me again that Obama did not lay out a budget proposal in it. You are so wrong it hurts to talk to you.
Wait a second. So did Obama not put out a budget or did he put out a budget with extra spending?
Or maybe you're both wrong, and he proposed a budget that cuts $3 trillion in spending over 12 years.
But y'know, I really think you're lowering the discourse by calling me an idiot for no reason. Jester, would you please help me explain to Jroc that we're both really offended by useless insults when we're trying to have a policy debate?
Yeah, you're right. I would have said the exact same things about Obama before that substance lacking, lil' hissyfit of a speech.......The man is a failure. The man is not a leader. The man is in way over his head. And that was true long before that ridiculous speech that laid out no proposal whatsoever.There's so much empty rhetoric in your post, it's hard to believe that you're really speaking out against empty rhetoric. I refuse to believe that you watched that speech and didn't see a budget proposal.
You would have written the entire above post before his speech. You're not discussing his speech, and you're not discussing the budget. You're using the discussion as an opportunity to attack Obama.
Wait a second. So did Obama not put out a budget or did he put out a budget with extra spending?
Or maybe you're both wrong, and he proposed a budget that cuts $3 trillion in spending over 12 years.
But y'know, I really think you're lowering the discourse by calling me an idiot for no reason. Jester, would you please help me explain to Jroc that we're both really offended by useless insults when we're trying to have a policy debate?
Nope your an idiot becouse Obama changed his budget as a becouse of Paul Ryan, not the other way around. Obama is a follower not a leader get clue will you?
me too.I like West.
No shit brother!Wait a second. So did Obama not put out a budget or did he put out a budget with extra spending?
Or maybe you're both wrong, and he proposed a budget that cuts $3 trillion in spending over 12 years.
But y'know, I really think you're lowering the discourse by calling me an idiot for no reason. Jester, would you please help me explain to Jroc that we're both really offended by useless insults when we're trying to have a policy debate?
Nope your an idiot becouse Obama changed his budget as a becouse of Paul Ryan, not the other way around. Obama is a follower not a leader get clue will you?
Indeed. 2 Trllion less than Ryan, and two years longer to accomplish. Oh, and Ryan is NOT talking about taking away Medicare...unlike the LIE Obama is spouting.
another repig trying to gain in his party of whiners , the party of no can't take no .
Florida GOP Rep. Allen West says he stands by his statement that President Barack Obama exhibited Third World dictator-like arrogance in his speech last week on the budget and Americas skyrocketing debt, and he is sick and tired of the presidents Marxist demagogic rhetoric.
I do stand by those words and perhaps one of the things that many people need to understand is that the truth needs to be said, West Thursday said on Fox News, referring to a comment he made Tuesday on Laura Ingrahams radio show. When I go around and I talk to people down here in my district, and we get phone calls, that speech that was given last week Wednesday was absolutely beneath the statesmanship, or the atmosphere, or the aura of the personality that the president should show.
I am sick and tired of this class warfare this Marxist demagogic rhetoric that is coming from the president of the United States of America, he told Greta Van Susteren. It is not helpful for this country, and its not going to move the ball forward as far as rectifying the economic situation in our country and Im not going to back away from telling what the truth is.
West said it is time to stop playing games when it comes to discussing Americas deteriorating fiscal situation.
I don't think it's very presidential when Barack Hussein Obama refers to my colleague, [House Budget Committee Chairman] Paul Ryan, as a simple little accountant, either, he said. So I think that when you look at what a community organizer [Obama] is turning out to be, it does seem to be like a low-level socialist agitator.
Allen West: Tired of Obama
No shit brother!Nope your an idiot becouse Obama changed his budget as a becouse of Paul Ryan, not the other way around. Obama is a follower not a leader get clue will you?
Indeed. 2 Trllion less than Ryan, and two years longer to accomplish. Oh, and Ryan is NOT talking about taking away Medicare...unlike the LIE Obama is spouting.
And it was quite entertaining watching Brent Bozell on Hannity the other night, clearly exposing the lies by the liberal talking heads like Madcow, Shultz, Mathews, Bashir, and several others who are BSing their lil' followers about Medicare.
Allen West is a disgraced officer who brags how he stayed with his men? He was forced to retire. It was either that or a courts martial.
Isn't this the same idiot who said he had a higher security clearance than Obama? This fool needs to just shut up and understand he is not in the house, he is still in the field. Go kiss Ingrams ass again fetchit. Your an embarrassment to every single service member in history.
No shit brother!Indeed. 2 Trllion less than Ryan, and two years longer to accomplish. Oh, and Ryan is NOT talking about taking away Medicare...unlike the LIE Obama is spouting.
And it was quite entertaining watching Brent Bozell on Hannity the other night, clearly exposing the lies by the liberal talking heads like Madcow, Shultz, Mathews, Bashir, and several others who are BSing their lil' followers about Medicare.
Then why is he being boo'd by repuplicans? Why is it, 70 of tea baggers dont want this idiot to mess with medicare?
This is so going to bite the republicans in the ass. You guys ran on Obama is taking 500 billion out of medicare ..to now, lets just get rid of medicare.
wow.
No shit brother!Nope your an idiot becouse Obama changed his budget as a becouse of Paul Ryan, not the other way around. Obama is a follower not a leader get clue will you?
Indeed. 2 Trllion less than Ryan, and two years longer to accomplish. Oh, and Ryan is NOT talking about taking away Medicare...unlike the LIE Obama is spouting.
And it was quite entertaining watching Brent Bozell on Hannity the other night, clearly exposing the lies by the liberal talking heads like Madcow, Shultz, Mathews, Bashir, and several others who are BSing their lil' followers about Medicare.
Allen West is a disgraced officer who brags how he stayed with his men? He was forced to retire. It was either that or a courts martial.
Isn't this the same idiot who said he had a higher security clearance than Obama? This fool needs to just shut up and understand he is not in the house, he is still in the field. Go kiss Ingrams ass again fetchit. Your an embarrassment to every single service member in history.
Read the whole thread loon, you might learn something about what you speak.
Here's a hero of the left in action...
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How did he embarrass every single service member in history?Allen West is a disgraced officer who brags how he stayed with his men? He was forced to retire. It was either that or a courts martial.
Isn't this the same idiot who said he had a higher security clearance than Obama? This fool needs to just shut up and understand he is not in the house, he is still in the field. Go kiss Ingrams ass again fetchit. Your an embarrassment to every single service member in history.
So what is it now Jester? Obama didn't present a plan? Or you don't like it? I'm not going to bother finding the specific points in his speech where he lays out his plan. You seem to be able to discuss it well enough to at least realize that it exists. But you still haven't shown me where he insulted anyone. The only insults I see here are flying in the other direction.
That's right. Obama's plan cuts $3 trillion in spending, $2 trillion less than Ryan's plan does. But Obama's plan adds $1 trillion in taxes, while Ryan's plan cuts taxes by another $1 trillion. Both proposals end up with $4 trillion in deficit reduction, although Obama's plan takes 12 years instead of Ryan's 10.
The difference is pretty stark. $2 trillion dollars in spending cuts vs. $2 trillion in taxes. Simple to understand. No reason to call Obama a socialist. No reason to say he doesn't have a plan. No reason to say the he insulted anyone. There's a lot of hot air around here.
Obama's original 2012 budget purposed only 1 trillion in cuts over 10yrs get it through your head. He changed his budget after Ryan’s budget came out and even in his new speech he did not address entitlements. Wake up man you're falling into a Obama demagogue haze
