Alleged active duty female soldier in uniform blasts trump at anti ICE protest in Dallas

[ThisIsMe]

Do you read what you post? In the heading she's former military. But could be arrested for impersonating a soldier.

Depends on the characterization of her discharge. If itd honorable, i dont think there is a law saying she can't wear her uniform. Dishonorable? That may have different implications.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Coupla things. Just because she's wearing a uniform doesn't mean she actually has some affiliation with a branch of the military. It might not have been her uniform, maybe she got it from someone else. So, who the hell is she? If she does have an existing connection to the military then she is subject to the UCMJ (military law), which if I'm not mistaken denies personnel the right to take part in political while wearing the uniform unless she has permission to do so.




It could be that her MSO came and went and she has no remaining connection to the military. I am not sure if it illegal for her to wear that uniform to include name and rank if she has no actual military affiliation. Might be a federal law that says you can't do that.

But if she does have some affiliation even if it's an inactive one then they can go after her under the UCMJ. Probably not jail time, but she could lose whatever benefits she may have. At this point we don't really know any specifics, so it's all just guesswork. But I do not like somebody using the uniform to make political judgements and if there was a law that was broken then I hope they throw the book at her.

"Might be a federal law that says you can't do that."

The federal laws that I could find was 18 USC 704, often referred to as the Stolen Valor Law. But that appears not to apply as it's about claiming earning military medals for fraudulent purposes.

A veteran wearing the uniform might be illegal (10 U.S. Code § 772) but that it about authorization, there appears to be no criminal penalty associated. "Illegal" and "Criminal" are two different things.

WW

10 U.S. Code § 772 - When wearing by persons not on active duty authorized

www.law.cornell.edu

18 U.S. Code § 704 - Military medals or decorations

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Mac-7]

Unless of course you can use them for poltical purposes.

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The commander in chief is exempt from that

 

[WorldWatcher]

The commander in chief is exempt from that

Oh...

Of course.

Anything Trump does is exempt.

WW

 

[task0778]

"Might be a federal law that says you can't do that."

The federal laws that I could find was 18 USC 704, often referred to as the Stolen Valor Law. But that appears not to apply as it's about claiming earning military medals for fraudulent purposes.

A veteran wearing the uniform might be illegal (10 U.S. Code § 772) but that it about authorization, there appears to be no criminal penalty associated. "Illegal" and "Criminal" are two different things.

WW

10 U.S. Code § 772 - When wearing by persons not on active duty authorized

www.law.cornell.edu

18 U.S. Code § 704 - Military medals or decorations

www.law.cornell.edu

1. Is it illegal to wear a military uniform if I’m not in the military? Wearing a military uniform is generally not illegal if you are not trying to deceive anyone or gain something through the impersonation. However, wearing it in a way that brings discredit to the military or violates specific regulations could be problematic.

Is it illegal to impersonate military? | [December Updated]

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thegunzone.com

I think a case could be made for bringing discredit to the military and/or violating specific regulations (maybe). I dunno, but I don't like it. I wouldn't be surprised to see the gov't go after her for improper use of the uniform, to discourage copycats.

 

[justoffal]

Oh...

Of course.

Anything Trump does is exempt.

WW

The most prosecuted president in history and still being prosecuted so what the **** are you talking about?

 

[justoffal]

1. Is it illegal to wear a military uniform if I’m not in the military? Wearing a military uniform is generally not illegal if you are not trying to deceive anyone or gain something through the impersonation. However, wearing it in a way that brings discredit to the military or violates specific regulations could be problematic.

Is it illegal to impersonate military? | [December Updated]

Is Impersonating a Member of the Military Illegal? Yes, it is often illegal to impersonate a member of the military. The specific circumstances and intent behind the impersonation largely determine the severity and type of legal repercussions. While simply dressing up in a military uniform for a...

thegunzone.com

I think a case could be made for bringing discredit to the military and/or violating specific regulations (maybe). I dunno, but I don't like it. I wouldn't be surprised to see the gov't go after her for improper use of the uniform, to discourage copycats.

The pension agreement is very explicit about being antithetical towards the military. The pension can be pulled if she's taking one that is.

 

[scruffy]

Army veteran joins anti-ICE protest in Dallas and ‘calls on conscience’ of fellow service members

‘We have a duty, a moral obligation to say no and resist,’ uniformed ex-soldier says at Texas demonstration, rebuking President Donald Trump for involving the military in domestic law enforcement

www.yahoo.com

If she is active duty military she’s toast

Unless she’s in the Mexican army

Libs might get away with that under biden and lloyd austin but not trump and pete hegseth

Adios!

Yep. I smell a dishonorable discharge coming.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Soon to be ex soldier

 

[WorldWatcher]

1. Is it illegal to wear a military uniform if I’m not in the military? Wearing a military uniform is generally not illegal if you are not trying to deceive anyone or gain something through the impersonation. However, wearing it in a way that brings discredit to the military or violates specific regulations could be problematic.

Is it illegal to impersonate military? | [December Updated]

Is Impersonating a Member of the Military Illegal? Yes, it is often illegal to impersonate a member of the military. The specific circumstances and intent behind the impersonation largely determine the severity and type of legal repercussions. While simply dressing up in a military uniform for a...

thegunzone.com

I think a case could be made for bringing discredit to the military and/or violating specific regulations (maybe).

It's not illegal for civilians to discredit the miltiary nor are they subject to specific regulations under the UCMJ.

The reporting is that she ex-Army, a veteran. There would have to be a showing that she was in some way still subject to the UCMJ for "specific regulations" to apply.

I dunno, but I don't like it.

I don't like it either. Wear veteran's regala? Sure. Fair game. To dress like you are on active duty? No, I don't like it.

However what I like or not doesn't matter to her being criminally charged.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the gov't go after her for improper use of the uniform, to discourage copycats.

It's not criminal to improperly wear the uniform for civilians. As far as I can tell.

If you have a federal law in addition to the ones I posted, it would be appreciated.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Yep. I smell a dishonorable discharge coming.

You can't dishonorably discharge a civilian.

WW

 

[laferia52]

Now to throw a wrench in the works.

And I'd appreciate someone more familiar with the Army chiming in as I'm retired Navy.

With the Army you have an enlistment, but my understanding is that there is a Minimum Obligated Service (MSO), after your initial enlistment you are transferred to the Army Individual Ready Reserve if the period of active duty did not satisfy the requirement.

Is it possible that her enlistment time on active duty didn't meat her MSO and she is in some form of inactive reserve status? I don't know, someone with more information than I would have to share.


WW

when I was discharged from the US Regular Army in 1979. I was kept in the inactive reserves for 8 yrs. all I had to do was report my home address so I could be contacted if needed. I received an Honorable Discharge. I would never berate the US Army or any branch of the US Military.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Soon to be ex soldier

Already an ex-soldier. It's in the OP linked article.

WW

 

[Lesh]

Do you read what you post? In the heading she's former military. But could be arrested for impersonating a soldier.

They don’t even read their own shit

 

[Moonglow]

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"Online, conservatives wasted no time in calling for the woman, subsequently identified as Carmen Colado, a former U.S. Army intelligence analyst, to be dishonorably discharged or court-martialled for publicly criticizing the commander-in-chief’s orders."

WW

Freedom of speech, do you think it is not for soldiers?

 

[Moonglow]

The problem is defining "free speech". Where does responsibility end and nastiness and destruction of others begin. Where do we define threats. Real threats. Not mouthing off. There are people who are not very good. And they may be revered by others.

Yous guys claimed that J-6 was not violent..

 

[Moonglow]

You're clueless. There's no free speech if she is active.

Like hell there isn't.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Already an ex-soldier. It's in the OP linked article.

WW

Hmmm, then she shouldn't be I uniform pulling this nonsense

She's a nothing

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

A veteran.

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[Meathead]

Army veteran joins anti-ICE protest in Dallas and ‘calls on conscience’ of fellow service members

‘We have a duty, a moral obligation to say no and resist,’ uniformed ex-soldier says at Texas demonstration, rebuking President Donald Trump for involving the military in domestic law enforcement

www.yahoo.com

If she is active duty military she’s toast

Unless she’s in the Mexican army

Libs might get away with that under biden and lloyd austin but not trump and pete hegseth

Adios!

She might find a new career as a housekeeper.