All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss

[Sixties Fan]

CAMERA Video: Why Is NY Times Downplaying Islamic Jihad?

 

[Sixties Fan]

It seems like a reasonable request not to allow EU finds to be redirected to EU-recognized terror groups, right?

Well, Palestinian NGOs freaked out, saying that if there are strings attached to the funding, they'd rather go without.Because to them, giving aid to these groups is righteous. The Palestinian argument is, essentially, we don't distinguish between terrorists and non-terrorists, so asking that the money not be given to terrorists is a form of discrimination.

Really, that's their argument.

And this argument is not only from Hamas and Islamic Jihad and NGOs that fund thm. No, the government of the "State of Palestine" is openly saying that terror groups should get funding like anyone else.

(full article online)

"Moderate" Erekat and Ashrawi tell the EU that paying terrorists is the right thing to do. EU tries to accommodate them. ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Hollie]

Wait, what?

Genocidal Islamic Terrorist franchises are bad at governing?

That would tend to beg the question, “why shower Islamic terrorists with welfare money when they have a demonstrated pattern of behavior that ignores responsible governance and instead leads to theft of huge portions of their welfare money while squandering the rest”?






Let’s Tell the Truth About Hamas and Gaza

It turns out that genocidal Islamist terrorist groups are bad at governing. This shouldn’t come as a surprise. But apparently it is to The Washington Post. The newspaper’s January 2 dispatchdecried living conditions in the Gaza Strip, but failed to place blame where it belongs: with Hamas, the US-designated terror group that rules the Strip

 

[P F Tinmore]

It seems like a reasonable request not to allow EU finds to be redirected to EU-recognized terror groups, right?

Well, Palestinian NGOs freaked out, saying that if there are strings attached to the funding, they'd rather go without.Because to them, giving aid to these groups is righteous. The Palestinian argument is, essentially, we don't distinguish between terrorists and non-terrorists, so asking that the money not be given to terrorists is a form of discrimination.

Really, that's their argument.

And this argument is not only from Hamas and Islamic Jihad and NGOs that fund thm. No, the government of the "State of Palestine" is openly saying that terror groups should get funding like anyone else.

(full article online)

"Moderate" Erekat and Ashrawi tell the EU that paying terrorists is the right thing to do. EU tries to accommodate them. ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

They are constitutionally protected political parties and must not be treated with discrimination.

They are only "terrorists" to foreign name callers.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

It seems like a reasonable request not to allow EU finds to be redirected to EU-recognized terror groups, right?

Well, Palestinian NGOs freaked out, saying that if there are strings attached to the funding, they'd rather go without.Because to them, giving aid to these groups is righteous. The Palestinian argument is, essentially, we don't distinguish between terrorists and non-terrorists, so asking that the money not be given to terrorists is a form of discrimination.

Really, that's their argument.

And this argument is not only from Hamas and Islamic Jihad and NGOs that fund thm. No, the government of the "State of Palestine" is openly saying that terror groups should get funding like anyone else.

(full article online)

"Moderate" Erekat and Ashrawi tell the EU that paying terrorists is the right thing to do. EU tries to accommodate them. ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

They are constitutionally protected political parties and must not be treated with discrimination.

They are only "terrorists" to foreign name callers.

^^^
This is the sick Palestinian/Arab/Muslim mindset. Tinmore, are you sure you're from European descent?

 

[P F Tinmore]

It seems like a reasonable request not to allow EU finds to be redirected to EU-recognized terror groups, right?

Well, Palestinian NGOs freaked out, saying that if there are strings attached to the funding, they'd rather go without.Because to them, giving aid to these groups is righteous. The Palestinian argument is, essentially, we don't distinguish between terrorists and non-terrorists, so asking that the money not be given to terrorists is a form of discrimination.

Really, that's their argument.

And this argument is not only from Hamas and Islamic Jihad and NGOs that fund thm. No, the government of the "State of Palestine" is openly saying that terror groups should get funding like anyone else.

(full article online)

"Moderate" Erekat and Ashrawi tell the EU that paying terrorists is the right thing to do. EU tries to accommodate them. ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

They are constitutionally protected political parties and must not be treated with discrimination.

They are only "terrorists" to foreign name callers.

^^^
This is the sick Palestinian/Arab/Muslim mindset. Tinmore, are you sure you're from European descent?

What is wrong with constitutionally protected equality?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

It seems like a reasonable request not to allow EU finds to be redirected to EU-recognized terror groups, right?

Well, Palestinian NGOs freaked out, saying that if there are strings attached to the funding, they'd rather go without.Because to them, giving aid to these groups is righteous. The Palestinian argument is, essentially, we don't distinguish between terrorists and non-terrorists, so asking that the money not be given to terrorists is a form of discrimination.

Really, that's their argument.

And this argument is not only from Hamas and Islamic Jihad and NGOs that fund thm. No, the government of the "State of Palestine" is openly saying that terror groups should get funding like anyone else.

(full article online)

"Moderate" Erekat and Ashrawi tell the EU that paying terrorists is the right thing to do. EU tries to accommodate them. ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

They are constitutionally protected political parties and must not be treated with discrimination.

They are only "terrorists" to foreign name callers.

^^^
This is the sick Palestinian/Arab/Muslim mindset. Tinmore, are you sure you're from European descent?

What is wrong with constitutionally protected equality?

You cannot compare Hamas to the Democratic or Republican parties. Do those American parties promote killing innocent civilians?

 

[Hollie]

It seems like a reasonable request not to allow EU finds to be redirected to EU-recognized terror groups, right?

Well, Palestinian NGOs freaked out, saying that if there are strings attached to the funding, they'd rather go without.Because to them, giving aid to these groups is righteous. The Palestinian argument is, essentially, we don't distinguish between terrorists and non-terrorists, so asking that the money not be given to terrorists is a form of discrimination.

Really, that's their argument.

And this argument is not only from Hamas and Islamic Jihad and NGOs that fund thm. No, the government of the "State of Palestine" is openly saying that terror groups should get funding like anyone else.

(full article online)

"Moderate" Erekat and Ashrawi tell the EU that paying terrorists is the right thing to do. EU tries to accommodate them. ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

They are constitutionally protected political parties and must not be treated with discrimination.

They are only "terrorists" to foreign name callers.

^^^
This is the sick Palestinian/Arab/Muslim mindset. Tinmore, are you sure you're from European descent?

What is wrong with constitutionally protected equality?

So, tell us about "constitutionally protected equality" for non-islamics in Gaza, for instance.

Armed islamic terrorists performing street killings and throwing people off rooftops suggests a constitution only an arab-moslem could support.

 

[Shusha]

What is wrong with constitutionally protected equality?

You cannot compare Hamas to the Democratic or Republican parties. Do those American parties promote killing innocent civilians?

Ah, but you forget according to Tinmore there are no innocent civilian Jewish Israelis. According to Tinmore, Jewish Israelis (which just means "Jews", let's be honest) are not protected persons. It is legally and morally permissible to kill Jews (yes, even children). Therefore, killing Jews is not terrorism. Its just politics, from perfectly equitable, reasonable, political parties. In fact, it is an act of heroism to kill Jews. Its patriotic to kill Jews. Its proper to kill Jews. Its GOOD to kill Jews. Therefore, the EU should fund the killing of Jews.

 

[P F Tinmore]

What is wrong with constitutionally protected equality?

You cannot compare Hamas to the Democratic or Republican parties. Do those American parties promote killing innocent civilians?

Ah, but you forget according to Tinmore there are no innocent civilian Jewish Israelis. According to Tinmore, Jewish Israelis (which just means "Jews", let's be honest) are not protected persons. It is legally and morally permissible to kill Jews (yes, even children). Therefore, killing Jews is not terrorism. Its just politics, from perfectly equitable, reasonable, political parties. In fact, it is an act of heroism to kill Jews. Its patriotic to kill Jews. Its proper to kill Jews. Its GOOD to kill Jews. Therefore, the EU should fund the killing of Jews.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
⁜→ ⁜→ Shusha, P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, it is true. Israelis are NOT in the protected persons under Common Articles 3 and 4. It is a very complicated definition. But in any event, all civilians of all nations/states are protected from abuse.

What the Arab Palestinians forget is that being a "protected person" does not mean they are shielded from prosecutions for misdemeanors and felonies. Protected persons who commit an offense that is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power can be lawfully prosecuted.

Ah, but you forget according to Tinmore there are no innocent civilian Jewish Israelis. According to Tinmore, Jewish Israelis (which just means "Jews", let's be honest) are not protected persons.

(COMMENT)

Yeah, he gets this wrong every time.

It is legally and morally permissible to kill Jews (yes, even children). Therefore, killing Jews is not terrorism. Its just politics, from perfectly equitable, reasonable, political parties. In fact, it is an act of heroism to kill Jews. It's patriotic to kill Jews. It's proper to kill Jews. Its GOOD to kill Jews. Therefore, the EU should fund the killing of Jews.

(COMMENT)

Yes, I read that from any number of pro-Anti-Semitic and pro-Arab Palestinians and most often they have used Resolutions to justify their attacks, launches, bombings and other criminal acts of violence calculated to intimidate and compel the Israelis take some act that furthers their propaganda position in the various media outlets.

◈ A/RES/3246 (XXIX) • Armed Struggle - All Means • 29 November 1974
Reaffirms the legitimacy of the peoples' struggle for liberation form colonial and foreign domination and alien subjugation by all available means, including armed struggle;

◈ A/RES/33/24 • Armed Struggle - All Means • 29 November 1978
Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;​

The Arab Palestinians believe their effort is working.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
⁜→ ⁜→ Shusha, P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, it is true. Israelis are NOT in the protected persons under Common Articles 3 and 4. It is a very complicated definition. But in any event, all civilians of all nations/states are protected from abuse.

What the Arab Palestinians forget is that being a "protected person" does not mean they are shielded from prosecutions for misdemeanors and felonies. Protected persons who commit an offense that is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power can be lawfully prosecuted.

Ah, but you forget according to Tinmore there are no innocent civilian Jewish Israelis. According to Tinmore, Jewish Israelis (which just means "Jews", let's be honest) are not protected persons.

(COMMENT)

Yeah, he gets this wrong every time.

It is legally and morally permissible to kill Jews (yes, even children). Therefore, killing Jews is not terrorism. Its just politics, from perfectly equitable, reasonable, political parties. In fact, it is an act of heroism to kill Jews. It's patriotic to kill Jews. It's proper to kill Jews. Its GOOD to kill Jews. Therefore, the EU should fund the killing of Jews.

(COMMENT)

Yes, I read that from any number of pro-Anti-Semitic and pro-Arab Palestinians and most often they have used Resolutions to justify their attacks, launches, bombings and other criminal acts of violence calculated to intimidate and compel the Israelis take some act that furthers their propaganda position in the various media outlets.

◈ A/RES/3246 (XXIX) • Armed Struggle - All Means • 29 November 1974
Reaffirms the legitimacy of the peoples' struggle for liberation form colonial and foreign domination and alien subjugation by all available means, including armed struggle;

◈ A/RES/33/24 • Armed Struggle - All Means • 29 November 1978
Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;​

The Arab Palestinians believe their effort is working.


Most Respectfully,
R

I can’t quite identify what efforts at destroying Israel the Arabs-Moslems believe is working.

The wars aimed at Israel and initiated by the combined Arab armies have all been disasters for the Arabs. There has even been grudging acceptance of Israel by Egypt and Jordan. The KSA has even come to view Israel as something of a buffer between themselves and Iran.

The wars fought between Israel and the Pals have ended disastrously for the Pals. The Pals singular focus on the destruction of Israel has consumed their very existence and while Israel has generated a world class economy and standard of living, the Pals still struggle with supplies of potable water and availability of indoor plumbing. Amidst the luxury malls for the few and the wealth achieved by the Islamic terrorist kingpins, the Pals, as a society, are little more than welfare dependent enclaves which exist on the benefits supplied by a UN sponsored welfare agency.

 

[Hollie]

This is your brain: The Bill of Rights: A Transcription



This is your brain on Islam:

Sheikh Salem Salameh, member of Hamas Legislative Council and Deputy Head of the Palestine Islamic Scholars Association, said in a December 26, 2019 interview on Mayadeen TV (Lebanon) that it is inconceivable to Muslims that there are other Muslims who recognize and normalize relations with Israel. He said that this constitutes betrayal of God, of Islam, and of the Muslims, and that Palestine and Jerusalem are Islamic land belonging to all the Muslims in the world. He claimed that U.S. President Washington had warned the Muslims and killed Native Americans because they were Muslims who had mosques. In addition, Sheikh Salameh said that the U.S. passes rulings that allow the Jews to kill the Palestinians.


"Hamas MP Sheikh Salem Salameh: George Washington Killed Indians Because They Were Muslims; Normalization of Relations with Israel Is Betrayal of God, Islam"



Yes, ladies and Gents. Sometimes it is appropriate to point and laugh.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
⁜→ Hollie, et al,

While the PLO-Negotiation Affairs Department (as well as other Arab Palestinian activities) have a stated goal of achieving a clear demarcation of agreed-upon (Israel & Arab Palestine) borders → to reach an end of the conflict on the basis of the two-state solution. IF one actually looks at what effort the PLO/PA is putting forward to achieve that goal, THEN you will discover that there is (as you suspect) no effort at all being made to actively progress to achieve that goal.

The PLO-Negotiation Affairs Department heap demand after demand (Borders, Jerusalem, Refugees and Right of Return, Prisoners, Water, Security, Economy, Monetary Restitution, etc) and preconditions to a meeting between negotiators, that they are (in effect) preventing any issue listed as being on the "Permanent Status of Negotiations" from being seriously approached.

IF the PLO-Negotiation Affairs Department → Palestinian Authority → State of Palestine wanted to have a meeting this week, THEN I am quite sure the Israelis would be more than happy to set-up such an arrangement (absent preconditions).

But actually, the PLO-Negotiation Affairs Department → Palestinian Authority → State of Palestine do not want progress.

I can’t quite identify what efforts at destroying Israel the Arabs-Moslems believe is working.

(COMMENT)

WHY? (RHETORICAL) you might ask... Because of the "Gravy Train Effect" (the conflict is necessary) to maintain a steady stream of revenue to all the various players; whether that be the backbone of management for the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement, the constant event planning program for authoritative speakers, the Anti-Israeli speaking tours and circuits, book sales for Anti-Israeli authors and publishers, the ad hoc working groups and committees of the UN [not to mention the overhead for the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA)], the skimmers of donor nation contributions that have made so many millionaires in Ramallah and Gaza, the political shadows that feed off the controversies, etc, etc, etc. This conflict is not just a cottage industry, but a major source of revenue as big as any of the transnational corporations in the world. Just imagine how many people would be affected, directly and indirectly, if the conflict were to suddenly come to an unexpected end. This is not counting the war industry (both the leagal and illegal) that support hostilities revolving aroung the different entities involved.

When the benefits for peace out weigh the benefits the conflict produces, then and only then, will we see progress.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sixties Fan]

I have recently been offering a presentation on the Strategic and Diplomatic Challenges for Israel 2020.

In this presentation I include the linguistic trend, used by the international diplomatic community, away from Israel’s original territorial legitimacy through the term “disputed territory” and arriving into “occupied Palestinian land,” an incorrect, devious and dangerous change of language to suit a narrative.


And, lo and behold, this morning I read that the EU just changed their official definition of Judea & Samaria from “occupied or disputed lands” into a shorter, simplistic “occupied lands.” This fails to admit that Israel is occupying its legitimate land. On the contrary, it is part of the push to delegitimize Israel on its ancestral land in favor of an amorphous, undefined, “Palestinian” entity.

This is the new, contrived, anti-Israel definition of EU foreign policy under its new foreign official, Josep Borrell.

The bias against Israel has been a noticeable feature of EU foreign policy for several years, particularly emphasized under the foreign policy leadership of Federica Mogherini, a former Arafat groupie and disciple of Italian Communist, Massimo D’Alema. Mogherini rose through the rank of the Italian DS party, which emerged out of the Italian Communist Party. As such, her political dogma included sympathy for arch-terrorist, Yasser Arafat and a desire to reduce Israel’s legitimacy in order to create a balance favorable to a belligerent Palestinian ideology.

(full article online)

EU’s Misuse of Language for Diplomatic Advantage

 

[Sixties Fan]

Remember, this was written in 1970. Anti-Israel literature before this was crude and more openly antisemitic, pushed mostly by Arabs and Christians. The Soviet anti-Israel and antisemitic propaganda is still openly used and accepted as fact after generations of indoctrination - mostly in academia.

(full article online)

The anti-Zionist tract that the Soviet Union gave away to Arabs ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Shusha]

I have recently been offering a presentation on the Strategic and Diplomatic Challenges for Israel 2020.

In this presentation I include the linguistic trend, used by the international diplomatic community, away from Israel’s original territorial legitimacy through the term “disputed territory” and arriving into “occupied Palestinian land,” an incorrect, devious and dangerous change of language to suit a narrative.


And, lo and behold, this morning I read that the EU just changed their official definition of Judea & Samaria from “occupied or disputed lands” into a shorter, simplistic “occupied lands.” This fails to admit that Israel is occupying its legitimate land. On the contrary, it is part of the push to delegitimize Israel on its ancestral land in favor of an amorphous, undefined, “Palestinian” entity.

This is the new, contrived, anti-Israel definition of EU foreign policy under its new foreign official, Josep Borrell.

The bias against Israel has been a noticeable feature of EU foreign policy for several years, particularly emphasized under the foreign policy leadership of Federica Mogherini, a former Arafat groupie and disciple of Italian Communist, Massimo D’Alema. Mogherini rose through the rank of the Italian DS party, which emerged out of the Italian Communist Party. As such, her political dogma included sympathy for arch-terrorist, Yasser Arafat and a desire to reduce Israel’s legitimacy in order to create a balance favorable to a belligerent Palestinian ideology.

(full article online)

EU’s Misuse of Language for Diplomatic Advantage

There was an interesting article someone put up here, some years ago, concerning the changing language (misuse of language) in the UN documents with respect to labeling the territories under dispute. How it went from "territories" to "disputed territories" to "Arab lands" to "occupied territories" to "Occupied Palestinian territories". Can't find the article now.

 

[MJB12741]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
⁜→ ⁜→ Shusha, P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, it is true. Israelis are NOT in the protected persons under Common Articles 3 and 4. It is a very complicated definition. But in any event, all civilians of all nations/states are protected from abuse.

What the Arab Palestinians forget is that being a "protected person" does not mean they are shielded from prosecutions for misdemeanors and felonies. Protected persons who commit an offense that is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power can be lawfully prosecuted.

Ah, but you forget according to Tinmore there are no innocent civilian Jewish Israelis. According to Tinmore, Jewish Israelis (which just means "Jews", let's be honest) are not protected persons.

(COMMENT)

Yeah, he gets this wrong every time.

It is legally and morally permissible to kill Jews (yes, even children). Therefore, killing Jews is not terrorism. Its just politics, from perfectly equitable, reasonable, political parties. In fact, it is an act of heroism to kill Jews. It's patriotic to kill Jews. It's proper to kill Jews. Its GOOD to kill Jews. Therefore, the EU should fund the killing of Jews.

(COMMENT)

Yes, I read that from any number of pro-Anti-Semitic and pro-Arab Palestinians and most often they have used Resolutions to justify their attacks, launches, bombings and other criminal acts of violence calculated to intimidate and compel the Israelis take some act that furthers their propaganda position in the various media outlets.

◈ A/RES/3246 (XXIX) • Armed Struggle - All Means • 29 November 1974
Reaffirms the legitimacy of the peoples' struggle for liberation form colonial and foreign domination and alien subjugation by all available means, including armed struggle;

◈ A/RES/33/24 • Armed Struggle - All Means • 29 November 1978
Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;​

The Arab Palestinians believe their effort is working.


Most Respectfully,
R

I can’t quite identify what efforts at destroying Israel the Arabs-Moslems believe is working.

The wars aimed at Israel and initiated by the combined Arab armies have all been disasters for the Arabs. There has even been grudging acceptance of Israel by Egypt and Jordan. The KSA has even come to view Israel as something of a buffer between themselves and Iran.

The wars fought between Israel and the Pals have ended disastrously for the Pals. The Pals singular focus on the destruction of Israel has consumed their very existence and while Israel has generated a world class economy and standard of living, the Pals still struggle with supplies of potable water and availability of indoor plumbing. Amidst the luxury malls for the few and the wealth achieved by the Islamic terrorist kingpins, the Pals, as a society, are little more than welfare dependent enclaves which exist on the benefits supplied by a UN sponsored welfare agency.

Yes, and despite all of this Israel has tried over & over again for many years to help improve life for the Palestinians. And just look at today's Palestinian thank you to Israel.

https://embassies.gov.il/MFA/FOREIGNPOLICY/Peace/HUMANITARIAN/Pages/Departments.aspx?WPID=WPQ2&PN=8

 

[Hollie]

Oh, my. Have the Arabs-Moslems masquerading as Pal’istanians run into a shortage of disposable children to use at the border gee-had?



Palestinians launch anti-Israel dawn prayer protests

Palestinians have launched a new campaign called The Great Fajr to protest Israeli presence and measures at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem and Tomb of the Patriarchs (Cave of Machpelah) in Hebron

 

[Shusha]

Oh, my. Have the Arabs-Moslems masquerading as Pal’istanians run into a shortage of disposable children to use at the border gee-had?



Palestinians launch anti-Israel dawn prayer protests

Palestinians have launched a new campaign called The Great Fajr to protest Israeli presence and measures at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem and Tomb of the Patriarchs (Cave of Machpelah) in Hebron

I am LOVING this idea. Let's do this. We'll have a Jewish section and a Muslim section up on the Temple Mount and we'll see who can out-pray the other. The first to use a weapon or do anything other than pray loses and abandons the Temple Mount for good.