All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss 2

[surada]

Amazing how you always manage to turn one issue into something totally different.

No, Israel has no design on the Litani River. But you do want to incite others into believing that.

The Litani River: Fact and Fiction on JSTOR

Arnon Soffer, The Litani River: Fact and Fiction, Middle Eastern Studies, Vol. 30, No. 4 (Oct., 1994), pp. 963-974

www.jstor.org

After 1971, the growth in southern Lebanon of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)—by refugees from the Jordanian Civil War—resulted in a rise in hostilities in that border area with Israel. These led in 1978 to Operation Litani by Israel and the 1982 Arab–Israel War. The fear exists in Lebanon that Israel will divert the Litani to join the Jordan River system, but Israel has replied that this is politically unfeasible.

Litani River | Encyclopedia.com

LITANI RIVER River in Lebanon. Flowing entirely within Lebanon, the Litani rises in the Biqa valley and flows south between the Lebanon mountains to the west and the anti-Lebanon mountains to the east until Nabatiya, where it turns sharply to the west crosses Lebanon and empties into the...

www.encyclopedia.com

By all means keep bring up what early Israeli leaders said, with no intent of showing that they never took any action towards those ideas.

Startup Nation has taken care of its own water issues. But you will not point that out.

You must be very young.. Why do you think the invasion of Southern Lebanon in 1978 was called Operation Litani?

Israel has been all about stealing more land and water assets since 1953. Look what they have done to both Aquifers and the Jordan River. Look what they have done to the water table in the Jordan Basin and the Dead Sea.

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[surada]

Oh Surada, did you wake up today on the wrong side of the bed?

Those with historical facts do not need psychiatric help. But keep insulting in order to feel good about all the misinformation on Jews and Israel you have been learning all of your life.

Jews are never victims.

We are survivors.

Am Israel Chai !!!

The People of Israel Live !!!

You're an obsessed amateur propagandist.

 

[Sixties Fan]

You must be very young.. Why do you think the invasion of Southern Lebanon in 1978 was called Operation Litani?

Israel has been all about stealing more land and water assets since 1953. Look what they have done to both Aquifers and the Jordan River. Look what they have done to the water table in the Jordan Basin and the Dead Sea.

Surada, who knows nothing, and wants to know nothing, will continue to make accusations without looking first and then stepping on the road.
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The announced objective of the operation was to destroy the bases of the PLO south of the Litani River in order to restore a sense of security in northern Israel. ... The original name of the operation was changed accordingly and became Operation Litani.

https://www.idf.il/en/minisites/wars-and-operations/operation-litani/

On March 11, 1978, three days before the start of Operation Litani (Hebrew: מבצע ליטני, 'Mivtsa Litani'), eleven terrorists from the Palestine Liberation Organization, led by Dalal al-Mughrabi, infiltrated Israel from Lebanon by sea, and took control of an Israeli civilian bus. The bus was traveling along a coastal road near Tel Aviv. 35 civilians, including 13 children, were killed, and 71 were wounded in the attack.​

The attack, known as the "Coastal Road Massacre" (Hebrew: טבח כביש החוף, "Tevah Kvish HaHof"), demonstrated a clear desire to sabotage the peace process with Egypt. In response to this attack, the Israeli government decided to take military action against the PLO's terrorist infrastructures located in southern Lebanon, in order to push the PLO beyond the Litani River. In a few days, the IDF was able to reach the banks of the Litani River.

https://www.idf.il/en/minisites/wars-and-operations/operation-litani/

 

[Sixties Fan]

You're an obsessed amateur propagandist.

Cries the professional propagandist. LMHO

 

[surada]

Surada, who knows nothing, and wants to know nothing, will continue to make accusations without looking first and then stepping on the road.
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The announced objective of the operation was to destroy the bases of the PLO south of the Litani River in order to restore a sense of security in northern Israel. ... The original name of the operation was changed accordingly and became Operation Litani.

https://www.idf.il/en/minisites/wars-and-operations/operation-litani/

On March 11, 1978, three days before the start of Operation Litani (Hebrew: מבצע ליטני, 'Mivtsa Litani'), eleven terrorists from the Palestine Liberation Organization, led by Dalal al-Mughrabi, infiltrated Israel from Lebanon by sea, and took control of an Israeli civilian bus. The bus was traveling along a coastal road near Tel Aviv. 35 civilians, including 13 children, were killed, and 71 were wounded in the attack.​

The attack, known as the "Coastal Road Massacre" (Hebrew: טבח כביש החוף, "Tevah Kvish HaHof"), demonstrated a clear desire to sabotage the peace process with Egypt. In response to this attack, the Israeli government decided to take military action against the PLO's terrorist infrastructures located in southern Lebanon, in order to push the PLO beyond the Litani River. In a few days, the IDF was able to reach the banks of the Litani River.

https://www.idf.il/en/minisites/wars-and-operations/operation-litani/

This is what European Zionism brought to Palestine and the neighbors yet you claim victim status, reparations and foreign aid.

Read Moshe Dayan.

 

[surada]

Cries the professional propagandist. LMHO

I am old.. and I have watched this for 70 years. Who could forget Palestine before the 1967 war.. before Operation Susannah, the Suez Crisis, Deir Yassin, the Qibya massacre, the invasion of Lebanon, the Sabra and Shatilla massacre, the attack on the USS Liiberty, the bombing of the Marine barracks.

 

[Sixties Fan]

This is what European Zionism brought to Palestine and the neighbors yet you claim victim status, reparations and foreign aid.

Read Moshe Dayan.

You have not read Moshe Dayan. Stop telling others to do it when you have no interest in doing so.

Jews have brought prosperity to any of the continents they have moved to from their homeland in Israel. And that includes their own homeland which they had to return to in order to become sovereign of their own lives as most people are.

You are out of touch.

Abraham Accords !!!!!!

How Israel helps people all over the world, including Jordan, Egypt and any other Muslim country which is willing to live in peace with the Indigenous people of the Land of Israel.

They know that the Jews, even those who came from Europe, are the indigenous people of the region. You prefer to read your conspiracy theories and continue to attack Israel.

Palestinians want you to stop doing it, because they have families to support, and they are very happy to go and work in Israel whenever Israel allows them to get jobs there. Those Arabs are the victims of their leaders and of fools like you, because you want to destroy the jobs they look forward to going to as they also getting a better salary than the PA or Hamas want to give them.


By all means, you go on wanting to damage the little these Arabs manage to get working in Israel, or for Jews, because you want to accuse ALL Jews of being European and not indigenous to the land.


Arabs know better.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I am old.. and I have watched this for 70 years. Who could forget Palestine before the 1967 war.. before Operation Susannah, the Suez Crisis, Deir Yassin, the Qibya massacre, the invasion of Lebanon, the Sabra and Shatilla massacre, the attack on the USS Liiberty, the bombing of the Marine barracks.

You are a 70 year old conspiracy idiot.

Go learn actual history of the region by reputable sources.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Surada, who knows nothing, and wants to know nothing, will continue to make accusations without looking first and then stepping on the road.
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The announced objective of the operation was to destroy the bases of the PLO south of the Litani River in order to restore a sense of security in northern Israel. ... The original name of the operation was changed accordingly and became Operation Litani.

https://www.idf.il/en/minisites/wars-and-operations/operation-litani/

On March 11, 1978, three days before the start of Operation Litani (Hebrew: מבצע ליטני, 'Mivtsa Litani'), eleven terrorists from the Palestine Liberation Organization, led by Dalal al-Mughrabi, infiltrated Israel from Lebanon by sea, and took control of an Israeli civilian bus. The bus was traveling along a coastal road near Tel Aviv. 35 civilians, including 13 children, were killed, and 71 were wounded in the attack.​

The attack, known as the "Coastal Road Massacre" (Hebrew: טבח כביש החוף, "Tevah Kvish HaHof"), demonstrated a clear desire to sabotage the peace process with Egypt. In response to this attack, the Israeli government decided to take military action against the PLO's terrorist infrastructures located in southern Lebanon, in order to push the PLO beyond the Litani River. In a few days, the IDF was able to reach the banks of the Litani River.

https://www.idf.il/en/minisites/wars-and-operations/operation-litani/

Dalal al-Mughrabi was Palestinian. What was she doing in Labanon?​

 

[Sixties Fan]

Dalal al-Mughrabi was Palestinian. What was she doing in Labanon?​

Here lazy bones:

(She was doing what she was turned into. A terrorist who was only too happy to kill Jews)

1978 operation​

Mughrabi was part of a group of eleven Palestinian and Lebanese militants who landed on March 11, 1978, on the coastal plain near Tel Aviv.[3][9] Mughrabi allegedly led the group, though reports differ.[12] The timing was aimed at scuttling peace talks between Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat,[13] and the intent was to attack the ministry of defence in Tel Aviv[3] or to "reach the Knesset and demand the release of Palestinian prisoners."[14] or to "kill as many Israelis as possible".[13]

Murder of Gail Rubin​

Landing at the beach, Mughrabi's group met American photographer Gail Rubin, who was taking nature photographs on the beach, and asked her where they were, after which they killed her.[15] Both surviving members of the group later confirmed that it was Mughrabi who killed Rubin,[16] who was the niece of US Senator Abraham A. Ribicoff.[17]

Hijacking​

The militants opened fire at passing traffic and hijacked a taxi, killing its occupants.[13] They seized a bus and headed to Tel Aviv,[12][13] and then hijacked another bus, moving the hostages (now numbering 71) to the first bus.[13]

Israeli forces stopped the bus, and a shooting battle ensued before it exploded.[3][13][18] During the shootout Mughrabi allegedly raised the Palestinian flag and declared the establishment of a Palestinian state.[3] Israel says the bus exploded after Mughrabi blew it up with a grenade, while Palestinians say it was struck by fire from an Israeli helicopter gunship.[3][13]A total of 38 Israelis, including 13 children, were killed and 72 were wounded; Mughrabi and eight other militants died as well.[2][19]

Dalal Mughrabi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Let us watch Tinmore be happy that she killed Jews.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Here lazy bones:

(She was doing what she was turned into. A terrorist who was only too happy to kill Jews)

1978 operation​

Mughrabi was part of a group of eleven Palestinian and Lebanese militants who landed on March 11, 1978, on the coastal plain near Tel Aviv.[3][9] Mughrabi allegedly led the group, though reports differ.[12] The timing was aimed at scuttling peace talks between Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat,[13] and the intent was to attack the ministry of defence in Tel Aviv[3] or to "reach the Knesset and demand the release of Palestinian prisoners."[14] or to "kill as many Israelis as possible".[13]

Murder of Gail Rubin​

Landing at the beach, Mughrabi's group met American photographer Gail Rubin, who was taking nature photographs on the beach, and asked her where they were, after which they killed her.[15] Both surviving members of the group later confirmed that it was Mughrabi who killed Rubin,[16] who was the niece of US Senator Abraham A. Ribicoff.[17]

Hijacking​

The militants opened fire at passing traffic and hijacked a taxi, killing its occupants.[13] They seized a bus and headed to Tel Aviv,[12][13] and then hijacked another bus, moving the hostages (now numbering 71) to the first bus.[13]

Israeli forces stopped the bus, and a shooting battle ensued before it exploded.[3][13][18] During the shootout Mughrabi allegedly raised the Palestinian flag and declared the establishment of a Palestinian state.[3] Israel says the bus exploded after Mughrabi blew it up with a grenade, while Palestinians say it was struck by fire from an Israeli helicopter gunship.[3][13]A total of 38 Israelis, including 13 children, were killed and 72 were wounded; Mughrabi and eight other militants died as well.[2][19]

Dalal Mughrabi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Let us watch Tinmore be happy that she killed Jews.

That ducks my question, as usual.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Dr. Hani El Akkad writes in Al Watan Voice a hysterical piece (in both senses of the word

The Jewish Hanukkah candelabra was lit in Dubai to celebrate the Hebrew festival. It is a holiday in which the Jews celebrate to commemorate the inauguration of the alleged Second Temple in Jerusalem in 164 BC.

I do not know if the Jewish menorah igniters [in the UAE] knew that this was their recognition of the right of the Jews in Jerusalem and therefore their right to destroy the Al-Aqsa Mosque and demolish the honorable Dome of the Rock and establish their alleged temple. The calamity if they knew and considered this religious tolerance and the biggest calamity if they consider this as a matter of Arab generosity and a kind of authenticity of the people of the Emirates. The truth is that I am trying to find approaches for reasons that are logical through which I can justify this heinous act of the Emiratis, but I cannot not find it. I do not think that there are reasons under any logic that would allow something forbidden, which is erecting the eight candle Jewish menorah on Arab land or on any building on Arab land, even if the Jews recognized the right of the Palestinians to a state with Jerusalem as its capital.

And a blue color covering the Burj Khalifa, which we thought was the Burj Al Arab, but after it was defiled by the feet of the Jews and their blue flag, it needs rain for a hundred years to be cleansed...!!, What is left of your Arabness, O Arabs in the Emirates...? To speak the Hebrew language, take off the headband and the keffiyeh, and wear the Jewish kippah...!! You mumble on deaf stones and insert messages to the gods in the holes in the walls, and claim that God heard your prayers and answered you, and you became God’s chosen people.

Dr. Al Akkad saw this Photoshopped picture created last year and believed it. Burj al Khalifa was never lit up with the Israeli flag.

He also thinks that a movie that Arabs have flipped out over that was originally meant to be Jordan's Oscar entry was really written by the Mossad.

Hate is a bizarre thing to monitor.

Another Arab op-ed that starts off anti-Israel, ends up hating Jews

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

elderofziyon.blogspot.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

Beinart's logic is:

A. The American Left is more likely to be anti-Israel.
B. The American Right, who are mostly Zionist, is more likely to be antisemitic.
Conclusion: Zionists are more likely to be antisemitic.

This is quite false.

Let's say that 70% of the Right - an overwhelming majority - are pro-Israel and 30% are anti-Israel. It makes sense that most of those 30% also have anti-Jewish attitudes. (ThinkPat Buchanan or Ron Unz, both prominent conservative haters of Israel and purveyors of antisemitism.)

Now, what percentage of Americans altogether have antisemitic attitudes? A 2019 ADL survey says that 24% of Americans say that Jews are more loyal to Israel than America and 15% say Jews have too much influence in business. If most of the anti-Israel Right agree with those statements, that would mean that the majority of those with overtly antisemitic attitudes are right wing anti-Zionists - and not one right-wing Zionist!

The only conclusion you can draw is that members of the Right are more likely to be overtly antisemitic than the Left - but it even imply that Zionists are antisemitic! Very few Zionists would answer those survey questions in the affirmative. The relatively small number of Americans who harbor explicit antisemitic attitudes mean that a minority of the Right - the anti-Zionists - can easily be the majority of the proud Jew-haters.

Beinart flunks Logic 101.

To claim that Zionists are more likely to be antisemitic is purely Beinart's bias. It's part of the fantasy among socialist Jews that Christian Zionists are really antisemites, even though they cannot point to a poll that shows that.

Beinart chooses the surveys that support his thesis both in the US and Europe. But the American Left is going in the direction of the British Left, and the British Left is actually attracting overt antisemites. In a 2019 survey that Beinart would never quote, 58% of those who strongly liked Jeremy Corbyn held two or more overtly antisemitic views, and 35% held four or more such views - a huge amount that was not seen in other politicians. Will the American Left go in that direction? Do Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib attract overt antisemites? It is not a far fetched concern. And it is not one that concerns Peter Beinart.

Not to say that there are no antisemitic idiots who admire Israel. Of course there are. Israel haters love to point to white supremacist Richard Spencer as if he represents the Zionism of the Right (and often they make the even more egregious logical error that if a hater says he loves Israel, Zionists must support hate.)

I wouldn't call those antisemites Zionists. They are just bigots who look at Israel as an ally in their own xenophobia against Muslims. Saying that you want Jews you hate to leave your country and go to Israel is not Zionism. Saying that you want to treat minorities horribly and falsely using Israel as a model is not Zionism. But Beinart pretends that it is, redefining the meaning of the word "Zionist" itself to prove his points.

One more point: Beinart says that defining anti-Zionism as antisemitism is creating a tautology. Indeed it is. But what if it isn't a definition - but an observation?

(full article online)

Peter Beinart flunks basic logic in pretending to prove that Zionists are antisemitic

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

elderofziyon.blogspot.com

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Dalal al-Mughrabi
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Dalal al-Mughrabi was Palestinian. What was she doing in Labanon?​

(COMMENT)

Who said Dalal al-Mughrabi was Palestinian?

She is Lebanese by birth... She was just a psychopathic member of the PLO Lebanese branch.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sixties Fan]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Dalal al-Mughrabi
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,


(COMMENT)

Who said Dalal al-Mughrabi was Palestinian?

She is Lebanese by birth... She was just a psychopathic member of the PLO Lebanese branch.

Most Respectfully,
R

Her father was a Palestinian refugee. The habit is to call all Arabs who fled, Palestinians, even their descendants.

Only people on the planet who do that.

 

[surada]

Her father was a Palestinian refugee. The habit is to call all Arabs who fled, Palestinians, even their descendants.

Only people on the planet who do that.

Not really.. Lots of Israelis have sought residence in Germany and dual citizzenship.. Only the Palestinians are denied the right of return.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Not really.. Lots of Israelis have sought residence in Germany and dual citizzenship.. Only the Palestinians are denied the right of return.

Jews were denied the right to return to Gaza from 1920 to 1967.

Jews were denied the right to return to TransJordan from 1925 to reside, till today.

Jews were denied the right to return to Hebron from 1929 till 1967

Jews were denied to return to Jerusalem's Jewish Quarter, Judea and Samaria from 1948 till 1967


Do you have any more crocodile tears to shed?

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Sixties Fan]