All Congressional Dems Have Right Now Is Epstein

[Oddball]

Just curious. Why is that so important to you? What do you think you'll see? What is this obsession that so many have with seeing photos and videos of Epstein's victims? That is all that is left in those files that haven't been released.

So they release all the files and all you see are prurient photos and videos. The Democrats and TDS afflicted will accuse them of not releasing all the files. You know that's a fact.

So what is to be gained by releasing those files?

How is it that the uber wealthy and politically connected kidnapping and sexually abusing children isn't important to you?

 

[Oddball]

Trump has to follow the ******* law just like everyone else (except Democrats).

Cop out.

Which law is preventing the release of the files?

 

[SaxonJackson]

True.

.....but you don't expect the Democrat party to run on anything even remotely related to their actual policies, do you?

We can't trust ANYONE to run on their actual policies. Both sides lie as a matter of routine. Obama lied. Biden lied. Trump lied. Let's just say it like it is. It's the establishment Swamp vs. We The People. Nothing has changed. Big spending continues. Endless wars continue. Creating paper money out of thin air continues. Covering up for fellow Swamp dwellers continues. Attacks on gun rights continue. What has changed?

But we'll all vote for the lesser of two evils in the next election and feel empowered that we "did our civic duty." But the Swamp will live on.

 

[Oddball]

We can't trust ANYONE to run on their actual policies. Both sides lie as a matter of routine. Obama lied. Biden lied. Trump lied. Let's just say it like it is. It's the establishment Swamp vs. We The People. Nothing has changed. Big spending continues. Endless wars continue. Creating paper money out of thin air continues. Covering up for fellow Swamp dwellers continues. Attacks on gun rights continue. What has changed?

But we'll all vote for the lesser of two evils in the next elections and feel empowered that we "did our civic duty." But the Swamp will live on.

 

[mudwhistle]

Cop out.

Which law is preventing the release of the files?

Judge denies DOJ's request to unseal Epstein grand jury records

A federal judge in New York has denied the Department of Justice's request to unseal grand jury material from Jeffrey Epstein's criminal case.

abcnews.go.com

A federal judge in New York has denied the Department of Justice's request to unseal grand jury material from Jeffrey Epstein's criminal case.

The decision on Wednesday marks the third and final time a federal judge has denied the Trump administration's request to unseal grand jury materials related to Epstein, the wealthy financier and convicted sex offender who died by suicide in jail in 2019. The court's decision effectively ends the DOJ's attempt to release grand jury materials in the case, through the department plans to start sharing other Epstein files with Congress later this week.

The Trump administration has been dealing with the fallout from its decision not to release materials related to the investigation into Epstein following the blowback it received from some MAGA supporters after it announced that no additional files would be released.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The answer is easy: release the ******* files and let the chips fall where they may.

This was a campaign promise.

No one CAN release them unless the two Judges barring it change their mind DUMBASS.

 

[Oddball]

No one CAN release them unless the two Judges barring it change their mind DUMBASS.

Then why isn't that his argument?...Why does he keep peddling the weak-assed "HOAX" sauce?

C'mon, dazzle us.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Then why isn't that his argument?...Why does he keep peddling the weak-assed "HOAX" sauce?

C'mon, dazzle us.

you were just linked to the fact a Judge ruled no release, what can't you read?

 

[Oddball]

Judge denies DOJ's request to unseal Epstein grand jury records

A federal judge in New York has denied the Department of Justice's request to unseal grand jury material from Jeffrey Epstein's criminal case.

abcnews.go.com

A federal judge in New York has denied the Department of Justice's request to unseal grand jury material from Jeffrey Epstein's criminal case.

The decision on Wednesday marks the third and final time a federal judge has denied the Trump administration's request to unseal grand jury materials related to Epstein, the wealthy financier and convicted sex offender who died by suicide in jail in 2019. The court's decision effectively ends the DOJ's attempt to release grand jury materials in the case, through the department plans to start sharing other Epstein files with Congress later this week.

The Trump administration has been dealing with the fallout from its decision not to release materials related to the investigation into Epstein following the blowback it received from some MAGA supporters after it announced that no additional files would be released.

That's GRAND JURY testimony, not the voluminous remainder of the files.

I can read for comprehension, can you?

 

[Oddball]

you were just linked to the fact a Judge ruled no release, what can't you read?

I can read GRAND JURY TESTIMONY, can you?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I can read GRAND JURY TESTIMONY, can you?

all the other material is being released to Congress nutjob. As stated in a link in this thread.

 

[Oddball]

all the other material is being released to Congress nutjob. As stated in a link in this thread.

"Released to congress".

I can't tell you how relieved I am to hear that.

 

[mudwhistle]

That's GRAND JURY testimony, not the voluminous remainder of the files.

I can read for comprehension, can you?

Any damaging or sensitive info was in that testimony.
The rest of the unreleased info falls under victim protection laws.

What Trump found out, as does every president, that what they campaign on isn't a problem until they get into office, and they discover all of the legal and national security issues surrounding their campaign promises.
The DOJ requested everything to be released and were rejected.
I don't believe nothing came out during the Grand Jury testimony.

Frankly, I think the Epstein List never existed in the files.
The only person who really knows what went on Maxine Guislaine.

I also think that everyone other than Barack Obama and Bill Clinton have had huge changes in their lives because of what they did with Epstein. Just ask Bill Gates and Prince Andrew.

 

[Oddball]

Any damaging or sensitive info was in that testimony.
The rest of the unreleased info falls under victim protection laws.

What Trump found out, as does every president, that what they campaign on isn't a problem until they get into office, and they discover all of the legal and national security issues surrounding their campaign promises.
The DOJ requested everything to be released and were rejected.
I don't believe nothing came out during the Grand Jury testimony.

Frankly, I think the Epstein List never existed in the files.
The only person who really knows what went on Maxine Guislaine.

I also think that everyone other than Barack Obama and Bill Clinton have had huge changes in their lives because of what they did with Epstein. Just ask Bill Gates and Prince Andrew.

Excuses, excuses, excuses, excuses, excuses.

There's plenty that can be released that doesn't involve revealing the IDs of victims.

Quit dissembling, distracting, dithering, and release them.

 

[Foxfyre]

How is it that the uber wealthy and politically connected kidnapping and sexually abusing children isn't important to you?

Nice dodge to avoid answering my question. Both Epstein and Maxwell were charged, indicted, tried, convicted and sent to prison for those crimes and I defy anybody to find a single post of mine in which I did not think that needed to happen.

I defy anybody to find a single post of mine in which I have condoned sex trafficking, child abuse, etc. etc. etc. and have not condemned that when it has been the topic of discussion. It is because I do care about those victims that I can support not releasing those photos and videos.

I am 100% confident that if there was anything incriminating against any Republican in those files, the Biden Administration would have released that information. I am just as confident the Trump Administration is not protecting any Democrats by not releasing the photos and videos.

I am reasonably confident there is nothing left to release that would not compromise the privacy and well being of the victims should those be plastered all over the internet which will happen if they are released. Why is it so important to the TDS crowd that it happens?

So again. Why is the release of those files so important to you? What do you hope to see if they are released?

 

[Oddball]

Nice dodge to avoid answering my question. Both Epstein and Maxwell were charged, indicted, tried, convicted and sent to prison for those crimes and I defy anybody to find a single post of mine in which I did not think that needed to happen.

I defy anybody to find a single post of mine in which I have condoned sex trafficking, child abuse, etc. etc. etc. and have not condemned that when it has been the topic of discussion.

I am 100% confident that if there was anything incriminating against any Republican in those files, the Biden Administration would have released that information.

I am reasonably confident there is nothing left to release that would not compromise the privacy and well being of the victims should those be plastered all over the internet which will happen if they are released.

So again. Why is the release of those files so important to you? What do you hope to see if they are released?

Not a dodge...It's a legit question your dodge questions.

I have no prurient interest...I want these bloody demonic fiends identified and, where possible, locked up for the rest of their revolting animal lives.

I'm not accepting any more cheap-assed excuses for covering up this horror show.

 

[Foxfyre]

Not a dodge...It's a legit question your dodge questions.

I have no prurient interest...I want these bloody demonic fiends identified and, where possible, locked up for the rest of their revolting animal lives.

I'm not accepting any more cheap-assed excuses for covering up this horror show.

And when you're told that information is not in the files and the only way to prove that to people like you is to violate the privacy and well being of the victims, you still want that to happen? Why?

There is no Epstein client list. Maxwell confirmed that when she had no reason to lie about it. You can't release what doesn't exist.

 

[Oddball]

And when you're told that information is not in the files and the only way to prove that you people like you is to violate the privacy and well being of the victims, you still want that to happen? Why?

I've already said that I'm against violating the privacy of the victims, so put that one away.

IMO, that's just another cheap dodge by the people keeping this affront to humanity under wraps.

 

[Foxfyre]

I've already said that I'm against violating the privacy of the victims, so put that one away.

IMO, that's just another cheap dodge by the people keeping this affront to humanity under wraps.

Explain how? When we are told there is no client list then there is no client list. Maxwell confirmed that when she had absolutely no reason to lie about it. But if such list ever existed it was almost certainly destroyed long ago by the Biden Administration.

You can't release what doesn't exist. I'm sure Bondi thought it would be there in the files and was more disappointed than anybody when it wasn't as she was the one who caught hell for it not being there. But if there is no list, there is no list.

Why can't you accept that all that hasn't been released are those prurient photos and videos that would compromise the victims if they are released?

And how does attacking and accusing me change anything?

In matters like this I adhere to Russell Kirk's 4th principle of conservatism:

". . .Fourth, conservatives are guided by their principle of prudence. Burke agrees with Plato that in the statesman, prudence is chief among virtues. Any public measure ought to be judged by its probable long-run consequences, not merely by temporary advantage or popularity. Liberals and radicals, the conservative says, are imprudent: for they dash at their objectives without giving much heed to the risk of new abuses worse than the evils they hope to sweep away. . ."

 

[Orangecat]

All Congressional Dems Have Right Now Is Epstein​

And communism.