All About the Oslo Accords

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Maybe your next “ You Tube” should be about why Olmert’s offer was rejected. :D:D
That is common knowledge for people who do not use Israeli propaganda for their only source of information.
It’s “ common knowledge “ as to why Olmert’s offer was rejected? Please tell us
In your response, please tell us why Israel would/should agree to give up their Holy Sites
Perhaps you could watch the linked video.
More of your silly Press TV spam?
Ignorant by choice. Interesting concept.
Spam videos. Not interesting at all.
 

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I read a lot about the Oslo Accords and both sides have their take on it. Especially as to why it has not succeeded.

The questions are:

What was the Oslo Accords supposed to achieve?
What was each side's role in it?
What, if anything has each side achieved since it was signed?
What are the advantages of keeping the Accords alive for each side, good or bad?
Was it done in good faith by both sides?
What was it like before the Accords?
What is it like now?
Is it best to keep it as is, or put an end to it?
What would be the consequences of ending it for each side?
Where did it go wrong?
etc, etc

Many decades later, there are a few articles which possibly point to the reason why the Accords seem to not have succeeded in bringing a Peace Treaty between Palestinians and Israelis, as negotiations did between Israelis, Egyptians and Jordanians before it, or any kind of peace at all.

Senior Palestinian Journalist: Arafat Told Me He Went Along With Oslo Accords Because It Would Make 'The Jews... Leave Palestine Like Rats Abandoning A Sinking Ship'


The ‘Oslo Diaries’ and Yasser Arafat’s trunk


Was Arafat in good faith when he signed it, or was this another Hudna on the Arab side, following on the footsteps of what Mohammad had done with the Jewish Tribe of Khaybar in the 7th Century as the article below suggests?

Tactical Hudna and Islamist Intolerance


Is there any chance of making both sides return to the ideas of the Accords and eventually follow them to the conclusion they were meant to bring when they were first signed?

What do the experts say?

What do you say?
Maybe your next “ You Tube” should be about why Olmert’s offer was rejected. :D:D
That is common knowledge for people who do not use Israeli propaganda for their only source of information.
It’s “ common knowledge “ as to why Olmert’s offer was rejected? Please tell us
In your response, please tell us why Israel would/should agree to give up their Holy Sites
Perhaps you could watch the linked video.
I did; Regarding the Oslo Accords which dealt with “ building settlements “ I am referring to after that . Still haven’t acknowledged Israel’s forbidden access to their Holy Sites. That wasn’t in the Video either
Why are you so reluctant to address it and recognize it? Because it’s easier for you to just ignore the issue
 

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Maybe your next “ You Tube” should be about why Olmert’s offer was rejected. :D:D
That is common knowledge for people who do not use Israeli propaganda for their only source of information.
It’s “ common knowledge “ as to why Olmert’s offer was rejected? Please tell us
In your response, please tell us why Israel would/should agree to give up their Holy Sites
Perhaps you could watch the linked video.
I did; Regarding the Oslo Accords which dealt with “ building settlements “ I am referring to after that . Still haven’t acknowledged Israel’s forbidden access to their Holy Sites. That wasn’t in the Video either
Why are you so reluctant to address it and recognize it? Because it’s easier for you to just ignore the issue
I don't know. :dunno:
 

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Maybe your next “ You Tube” should be about why Olmert’s offer was rejected. :D:D
That is common knowledge for people who do not use Israeli propaganda for their only source of information.
It’s “ common knowledge “ as to why Olmert’s offer was rejected? Please tell us
In your response, please tell us why Israel would/should agree to give up their Holy Sites
Perhaps you could watch the linked video.
I did; Regarding the Oslo Accords which dealt with “ building settlements “ I am referring to after that . Still haven’t acknowledged Israel’s forbidden access to their Holy Sites. That wasn’t in the Video either
Why are you so reluctant to address it and recognize it? Because it’s easier for you to just ignore the issue
I don't know. :dunno:
I do. It’s because not even you can justify it so rather then being objective you ignore it. Exactly how I feel about the Palestinians
 

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The Oslo Accords: The Five Star Israeli Occupation

Perhaps the Oslo Accords, which were concluded between the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and Israel, will be registered in the modern and contemporary history as the worst agreement between the representatives of a people under occupation and an occupying power.

Since then, 26 years have passed. The Palestinian negotiator thought that the Accords would be a prelude to the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on the soil of the West Bank (WB) and Gaza Strip (GS). However, he found himself establishing a self-government authority that provides a cover to a “five-star occupation,” that continued with Judaization and settlement building plans, to destroy the dream of a “two-state solution,” and keep the functional Palestinian Authority (PA) that serves the occupation’s objectives rather than the goals of the Palestinian people.

It is the trap, which the late Palestinian scholar Edward Said talked about, when he stated that that ‘Arafat “has entangled his people in a trap from which there is no escape,” and that he had thrown himself among the Israelis and the Americans (Al-Hayat newspaper, 21/8/1995).

The Oslo Accords: The Five Star Israeli Occupation
 

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The Oslo Accords: The Five Star Israeli Occupation

Perhaps the Oslo Accords, which were concluded between the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and Israel, will be registered in the modern and contemporary history as the worst agreement between the representatives of a people under occupation and an occupying power.

Since then, 26 years have passed. The Palestinian negotiator thought that the Accords would be a prelude to the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on the soil of the West Bank (WB) and Gaza Strip (GS). However, he found himself establishing a self-government authority that provides a cover to a “five-star occupation,” that continued with Judaization and settlement building plans, to destroy the dream of a “two-state solution,” and keep the functional Palestinian Authority (PA) that serves the occupation’s objectives rather than the goals of the Palestinian people.

It is the trap, which the late Palestinian scholar Edward Said talked about, when he stated that that ‘Arafat “has entangled his people in a trap from which there is no escape,” and that he had thrown himself among the Israelis and the Americans (Al-Hayat newspaper, 21/8/1995).

The Oslo Accords: The Five Star Israeli Occupation
I thought the "country of Pally'land" was invented in 1924 by the Treaty of Lausanne and "Pal'istanians" became, you know, Pal'istanians in 1967 by the decree of an Egyptian.

Is there a new state of Pal'istan that needs to be invented?

Link?
 

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The Oslo Accords: The Five Star Israeli Occupation

Perhaps the Oslo Accords, which were concluded between the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and Israel, will be registered in the modern and contemporary history as the worst agreement between the representatives of a people under occupation and an occupying power.

Since then, 26 years have passed. The Palestinian negotiator thought that the Accords would be a prelude to the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on the soil of the West Bank (WB) and Gaza Strip (GS). However, he found himself establishing a self-government authority that provides a cover to a “five-star occupation,” that continued with Judaization and settlement building plans, to destroy the dream of a “two-state solution,” and keep the functional Palestinian Authority (PA) that serves the occupation’s objectives rather than the goals of the Palestinian people.

It is the trap, which the late Palestinian scholar Edward Said talked about, when he stated that that ‘Arafat “has entangled his people in a trap from which there is no escape,” and that he had thrown himself among the Israelis and the Americans (Al-Hayat newspaper, 21/8/1995).

The Oslo Accords: The Five Star Israeli Occupation

"Perhaps the Oslo Accords, [between the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and Israel] will be registered in the modern and contemporary history as the worst agreement ..."



"Since then, 26 years have passed" .


. . .a Palestinian Authority (PA) that serves the occupation’s objectives rather than the goals of the Palestinian people...


"Palestinian scholar Edward Said [stated]: ‘Arafat “has entangled his people in a trap from which there is no escape."


it's hamass/abbas now doing all the entangling....
 
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The position on jurisdiction that the Office of the Prosecutor (OTP) has taken depends in part on its interpretations of the Oslo Accords and the Israeli-Palestinian peace process more generally. Having served as the lead American negotiator on Middle East peace and a participant or mediator in Oslo talks and other Israeli-Palestinian discussions from 1993 to 2001, I know the inside history and content of the accords intimately. In response to an invitation sent out by the Pre-Trial Chamber, I felt compelled to submit an amicus curiae brief explaining that the OTP has misrepresented the terms and meaning of these agreements in a number of ways.

My hope was to convince the OTP to correct its errors, but that has not happened. In fact, the OTP’s April 30 responseto opposing briefs doubled down on some of its most misleading arguments, attempting to redefine the Oslo Accords in some areas and simply ignoring them in others.

This problem has become more important in light of the chamber’s unusual request for clarification regarding a May 19 statement by Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas, who declared that the PA was “absolved” of its past agreements with the Israeli and U.S. governments. The judges appear to recognize that the Oslo Accords are relevant to the legal issue before them; as such, I think it’s high time to set the record straight.

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  • The Prosecutor's Response seems to create new international law where non-binding resolutions can change legally binding agreements in order to prosecute Israeli leaders and Israeli Jews for war crimes....

  • The limitations of the Palestinian Authority's jurisdiction in the Oslo Accords do not permit transferring jurisdiction to the ICC. Those limitations cannot be changed or disregarded.

  • There is no crime and no case for the Prosecutor to investigate those who returned to their ancestral land, who are the indigenous people. Judea and Samaria are not occupied territories.

  • "Palestine", according to the International Court of Justice (ICL), is not a state.

  • There is no occupation by Israel of the territory of another state. There was no "Palestinian" state before 1967. Israel liberated Judea Samaria from Jordan after a war of aggression, in which Jordan attacked Israel in 1967 – for the second time (the first time being in 1948). Jordan finally abandoned all claims to the territory in 1988.
  • The Jews were expelled or killed during Jordan's 1948 aggression. Their houses were taken by Arabs...."Palestine" is the Jewish Home as codified in international law. It is not a terra nullius ["nobody's land"]. It belongs to the Jewish people. The "Arabs" of Judea and Samaria are the settlers, colonizers, who invaded the land.
  • The Jews hold the right to that land from the Bible, the Qur'an, and from several international instruments: the Balfour Declaration (1917), the Treaty of Lausanne (1923), the British Mandate (1922), the San Remo Resolution (1920), and the Treaty of Sèvres (1920) created International law, recognized and re-established the historical indigenous rights of the Jews to their Land.... Moreover, the Jewish people is entitled to its land under the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples....

  • Contrary to the Jewish people being the indigenous people, the "Palestinian people" has been invented to oppose the Jewish people.

  • The ICC cannot be a forum for the diversion of international law and for a travesty of justice.... The Response of the Prosecutor follows a political agenda and is based on law created by the Prosecutor to enable the prosecution of Israeli Jews/leaders for crimes they never committed. Ms. Fatou Bensouda's impartiality can reasonably be doubted and she should be disqualified pursuant to article 42-7 of the Rome Statute and Rule 34 (d) of the Rules of Procedure and Evidence.

(full article online)

 

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