Ali's cause of parkinson's disease

[rightwinger]

Joe Louis had one signature victory against Max Schmeling, an inferior fighter he had previously lost to.
After that, he was mostly “Bum of the Month” opponents who were not in his league.
Occasionally, fighters like Jersey Joe Walcott and Billy Conn gave him a good fight but most were just walkovers

Ali beat Sonny Liston who experts predicted would literally kill him. He beat Joe Frazier, Ken Norton along with all the top heavyweights of his era.
Beating George Forman, who again experts predicted would physically harm him was the highlight of his career.

 

[katsteve2012]

Joe Louis had one signature victory against Max Schmeling, an inferior fighter he had previously lost to.
After that, he was mostly “Bum of the Month” opponents who were not in his league.
Occasionally, fighters like Jersey Joe Walcott and Billy Conn gave him a good fight but most were just walkovers

Ali beat Sonny Liston who experts predicted would literally kill him. He beat Joe Frazier, Ken Norton along with all the top heavyweights of his era.
Beating George Forman, who again experts predicted would physically harm him was the highlight of his career.

I believe that there were also two other significant variables that placed Ali above Louis.

Ali was never counted out, even when he was past his prime, and Ali also had the better ability to adjust to an opponents style and find ways to win.

An example of that was Louis' first loss to Schmeling. If you watch the film of that fight,
Schmeling hit Louis with counter overhand rights throughout the entire fight up until the end because Louis repeatedly lowered his left hand after throwing his left jab.

 

[DGS49]

Here'w what I know. When I went into the service in 1968, every eligible draftee had to take what was called the Armed Forces Qualification Test. The test was scored on a PERCENTILE basis. Those with the highest scores got 99 and those with the lowest scores got...well, whatever. If you got a score under 15, YOU COULD NOT BE DRAFTED. The Department of Defense concluded that if your IQ was less than 85 (or so), you could not even be trained to do anything useful to the Armed Forces.

Robert McNamara got the brilliant idea one day that they could lower the minimum score from 15 to 9, and could take those unlucky dullards and have them do routine stuff. THIS IS HOW CASSIUS CLAY WAS DRAFTED. His score was lower than 15, but higher than 9. Accordingly, his IQ was 85 or lower.

Parenthetically, the program was a disaster. Those people were tagged with the conspicuous Service Number that started with "US66..." and they were sent to Vietnam to serve as security guards and similar positions. MORE THAN HALF OF THEM WERE KILLED over there because they were too stupid to assess dangerous circumstances. Like the turkey who lifts his head up when he hears gunfire, these unfortunates constantly did things that made them more vulnerable to being shot or otherwise victimized.

Cassius Clay was a moron. Literally.

 

[rightwinger]

Here'w what I know. When I went into the service in 1968, every eligible draftee had to take what was called the Armed Forces Qualification Test. The test was scored on a PERCENTILE basis. Those with the highest scores got 99 and those with the lowest scores got...well, whatever. If you got a score under 15, YOU COULD NOT BE DRAFTED. The Department of Defense concluded that if your IQ was less than 85 (or so), you could not even be trained to do anything useful to the Armed Forces.

Robert McNamara got the brilliant idea one day that they could lower the minimum score from 15 to 9, and could take those unlucky dullards and have them do routine stuff. THIS IS HOW CASSIUS CLAY WAS DRAFTED. His score was lower than 15, but higher than 9. Accordingly, his IQ was 85 or lower.

Parenthetically, the program was a disaster. Those people were tagged with the conspicuous Service Number that started with "US66..." and they were sent to Vietnam to serve as security guards and similar positions. MORE THAN HALF OF THEM WERE KILLED over there because they were too stupid to assess dangerous circumstances. Like the turkey who lifts his head up when he hears gunfire, these unfortunates constantly did things that made them more vulnerable to being shot or otherwise victimized.

Cassius Clay was a moron. Literally.

Probably shows how valid those tests were

Ali may have gotten a low score on a written test, but he understood politics, religion, he had good verbal skills and leadership. He understood how to work the press and shift public opinion. He gave a good interview.
He was brave and put his personal values over monetary gain.

Something those tests don’t show.

 

[DGS49]

Ali was a braggart and a scoundrel, with a litter of black and brown bastards following him from sea to shining sea.

His impact on sports, and especially how to conduct yourself w/r/t winning and losing was a cultural disaster. He is the Godfather of spiking the football, trash talk, and countless other classless practices that remain to this day.

Great boxer. Awful person. And a dullard.

 

[rightwinger]

Ali was a braggart and a scoundrel, with a litter of black and brown bastards following him from sea to shining sea.

His impact on sports, and especially how to conduct yourself w/r/t winning and losing was a cultural disaster. He is the Godfather of spiking the football, trash talk, and countless other classless practices that remain to this day.

Great boxer. Awful person. And a dullard.

No question Ali was a jerk
The way he treated Joe Frazier was reprehensible

In terms of Boxing, he was the GOAT

 

[DGS49]

Joe Frazier was the first boxer that I ever saw who actually landed a punch to Ali's head. All the others were swinging at air.

 

[Fiero425]

Your trolling Ali doesn’t work

It's not trolling admitting that the poor guy's brain had to be scrabbled w/ that "rope-a-dope" BS! Whether Ali was getting hit directly or not, his own gloves were pounding his own head repeated just trying to outlast an opponent taking punishment! Joe Frazier abused him & Ken Norton broke his jaw! A monster like George Foreman lost, but had Ali absorbing a lot of blows in Zaire! Back in those days, the fights were featured on the radio and later telecast on TV! Ali made Howard Cosell! There was a decline that was precipitous! Many fights after that had him barely winning vs poor comp.! The rest was sad w/ exhibitions for TV $$!

 

[BackAgain]

They say that Ali became such a stupid nonentity because he did not know how to fight and Joe beat off his whole brain. But in fact, Ali was an idiot before. His IQ was at the level of an insect, it seems he studied at a school for the mentally retarded.

You’re an idiot.

Ali was a genuine man. A good man.

 

[rightwinger]

It's not trolling admitting that the poor guy's brain had to be scrabbled w/ that "rope-a-dope" BS! Whether Ali was getting hit directly or not, his own gloves were pounding his own head repeated just trying to outlast an opponent taking punishment! Joe Frazier abused him & Ken Norton broke his jaw! A monster like George Foreman lost, but had Ali absorbing a lot of blows in Zaire! Back in those days, the fights were featured on the radio and later telecast on TV! Ali made Howard Cosell! There was a decline that was precipitous! Many fights after that had him barely winning vs poor comp.! The rest was sad w/ exhibitions for TV $$!

You got to figure he was in the ring from the late 50s to the early 80s

That is a lot of shots to the head

 

[Couchpotato]

They say that Ali became such a stupid nonentity because he did not know how to fight and Joe beat off his whole brain. But in fact, Ali was an idiot before. His IQ was at the level of an insect, it seems he studied at a school for the mentally retarded.

People with a low IQ arent as quick witted as Ali was. Ali's public persona was a show. Ali understood that beyond the actual boxing match there was not only a mental game to play against his opponent but that he could use his mind and personality to drive interest in the match and thus his value upward. Ironic that you're too dumb to see that....

 

[Couchpotato]

Here'w what I know. When I went into the service in 1968, every eligible draftee had to take what was called the Armed Forces Qualification Test. The test was scored on a PERCENTILE basis. Those with the highest scores got 99 and those with the lowest scores got...well, whatever. If you got a score under 15, YOU COULD NOT BE DRAFTED. The Department of Defense concluded that if your IQ was less than 85 (or so), you could not even be trained to do anything useful to the Armed Forces.

Robert McNamara got the brilliant idea one day that they could lower the minimum score from 15 to 9, and could take those unlucky dullards and have them do routine stuff. THIS IS HOW CASSIUS CLAY WAS DRAFTED. His score was lower than 15, but higher than 9. Accordingly, his IQ was 85 or lower.

Parenthetically, the program was a disaster. Those people were tagged with the conspicuous Service Number that started with "US66..." and they were sent to Vietnam to serve as security guards and similar positions. MORE THAN HALF OF THEM WERE KILLED over there because they were too stupid to assess dangerous circumstances. Like the turkey who lifts his head up when he hears gunfire, these unfortunates constantly did things that made them more vulnerable to being shot or otherwise victimized.

Cassius Clay was a moron. Literally.

Did you know there's no direct correlation between the ASVAB and IQ?