Aliens: Are we sceptical of their existence or just too frightened to admit that they do?

[Stryder50]

Z. Sitchin did portray alien visitations a entirely self serving

which would seem plausible, i really can't think of any good reason to travel the galaxy just to visit a race of Neanderthals..

~S~

Z. Sitchin only examined part of the evidence to work with, plus he passed on before more recent additions came along.
He was about 75% correct, but made a few major errors.

My Geminga Scenario thread here at USMB builds upon his and other's work.

I posit that most, not all, of ETs here(Solar System/Earth) arrived here hundreds of thousands of years ago as part of a larger inter-stellar exploration & colonization program. Originating from a cluster of earlier and more advanced star-planet systems, that out expansion was full sphere in directions.

Unfortunately, about 300-330,000 years ago, a major star in the Home Worlds cluster went SuperNova and destroyed most of those home world planets. Isolating the many outer colonies to their own resources. That blast was likely more than 50 light years distant, possibly in the range of 150-200 light years. The star that went supernova is now the pulsar Geminga and scooted across space to a different location from where it started.

The colony here at Sol/Earth/Mars/Etc. was initially isolated and on it's own, so they were starting from scratch with limited resources. This required a larger population base as well as more economy and industry than they came here with. So the solution they settled on was genetic manipulate a native hominid species, accelerate it's evolutionary track, a few other tweaks and hence we homo-sapiens-sapiens are that product.

Next was to get the humans on a civilization and technology development track. Ironically, a study of history shows that warfare is a great accelerator of technology so they (Anunnaki) have manipulated our species on that track, trying to get us built up to the level of their lost Home Worlds.

In recent centuries some of the other nearby "Gemingian" colonies have established contact and 'trade' with our Anunnaki, hence the source of variety of 'UFO' craft and their operators.

It's also probable some of the conflict that may have resulted in that long ago supernova continue, have been renewed.

As I said, more detain, sources, "evidence" etc. in the Geminga Scenario thread, in History subforum.

 

[Stryder50]

If intersteller travel was possible ... where are all the tourists? ... paraphrased from Step Hen Hawking ...

Who says the travel is cheap?
Why should they show themselves?
Especially if such would violate a Prime Directive - i.e. as in Star Trek?

 

[sparky]

Z. Sitchin only examined part of the evidence to work with, plus he passed on before more recent additions came along.
He was about 75% correct, but made a few major errors.

My Geminga Scenario thread here at USMB builds upon his and other's work.

I posit that most, not all, of ETs here(Solar System/Earth) arrived here hundreds of thousands of years ago as part of a larger inter-stellar exploration & colonization program. Originating from a cluster of earlier and more advanced star-planet systems, that out expansion was full sphere in directions.

Unfortunately, about 300-330,000 years ago, a major star in the Home Worlds cluster went SuperNova and destroyed most of those home world planets. Isolating the many outer colonies to their own resources. That blast was likely more than 50 light years distant, possibly in the range of 150-200 light years. The star that went supernova is now the pulsar Geminga and scooted across space to a different location from where it started.

The colony here at Sol/Earth/Mars/Etc. was initially isolated and on it's own, so they were starting from scratch with limited resources. This required a larger population base as well as more economy and industry than they came here with. So the solution they settled on was genetic manipulate a native hominid species, accelerate it's evolutionary track, a few other tweaks and hence we homo-sapiens-sapiens are that product.

Next was to get the humans on a civilization and technology development track. Ironically, a study of history shows that warfare is a great accelerator of technology so they (Anunnaki) have manipulated our species on that track, trying to get us built up to the level of their lost Home Worlds.

In recent centuries some of the other nearby "Gemingian" colonies have established contact and 'trade' with our Anunnaki, hence the source of variety of 'UFO' craft and their operators.

It's also probable some of the conflict that may have resulted in that long ago supernova continue, have been renewed.

As I said, more detain, sources, "evidence" etc. in the Geminga Scenario thread, in History subforum.

Yes i've read your thread Stryder , i'm simply at a loss to reply cuz all i can think of is >>>>

“Not only is the Universe stranger than we think, it is stranger than we can think.”​

― Werner Heisenberg, Across the Frontiers

~S~

 

[luiza]

Does this mythology teach any lessons? ... you seriously believe men have one less rib than women? ...

Lame sauce ... let me guess, not one shred of physical evidence ... this gets hilarious when we look up "Isotopes of Gold" ... but I get it, Gold is precious to humans so it must be precious to aliens ... ROFL ...

No citation means it didn't happen ...

You mentioned ribs . Not me .

As for gold .
You have it the wrong way around .
It is very necessary for the Elohim . Apparently .

Perhaps that is why it then became important to us as primitives. They certainly had us mining it as slaves .

All because they needed beings somewhat smarter than Homo Habilis --- they experimented to get Homo Sapiens -- more useful and productive slaves .


The evidence is there if you study ancient writings and paintings / pictures .

Can you read the earliest writings ?
Might be useful before you start getting "set " in your thinking .

 

[Stryder50]

Yes i've read your thread Stryder , i'm simply at a loss to reply cuz all i can think of is >>>>

“Not only is the Universe stranger than we think, it is stranger than we can think.”​

― Werner Heisenberg, Across the Frontiers

View attachment 1051230
~S~

And as an aid to others, the click link;
The Geminga Scenario

 

[toobfreak]

Yes clearly the planet Venus viewed through a glitch on the lens. /sarcasm

I know you're just kidding, but for the uninitiated, no, this could not possibly been a planet or lens aberration! For one thing, the sky was still pretty lit and it was just too bright even for Venus, I originally spotted the thing high over head with my naked eyes. Second, Venus (by far the brightest planet), never strays far from the Sun being that its orbit is inside the Earth's, so you never see Venus far from the west or east horizon as either a "morning" or "evening" star, and this thing was high overhead to the south, a position impossible for Venus to be.

As to lens aberration, again no, I'm a fair expert on optics and the telescope this photo was taken through was a $20,000 state of the art 6" refractor with some of the best optics ever made--- aerospace quality, essentially flawless, not that there is any type of optical aberration which could produce this shape. BTW, the thing kept moving, changing shape and direction which is why it looks a little blurred. I took several pictures of it and it looks different in each photo. Also note there is a tiny "star" or dot of light off the one corner of it, that was consistent in all the photos.

The third object I saw in a telescope was in the 1970's through a 60mm TASCO. It was interesting in that I first spotted it in the sky too at dusk with my eyes getting ready to use the scope after dusk. Through the telescope (about 35 power, the photo attached above was around 55X), it looked like a glass ball or round orb. It appeared that the sun was reflecting off either the front or inside back of the thing. Towards the lower third, there appeared to be two round "headlights" which remained fixed in position. On top of the thing there was a short antenna of sorts with two red lights on it. The one red light was at the tip, the other about 2/3rds down. I made a drawing of it the night I saw it. The antenna appeared to rock or move a bit like it was going slightly towards and away from me.

I excitedly called my father out to see it. He came out and we both watched it taking turns, then while my dad was at the eyepiece, he said it just disappeared! It was gone in the sky. My father actually called somewhere the next day, the airport maybe, somewhere that would have info on weather balloons and described it asking if they knew of anything or recognized the description but they said no.

Over the years, I've rationalized that this thing and the thing I attached here in photo COULD have been some sort of weather balloon or weather package, but the first thing I saw in the 60s through a telescope, the three lights which flew together making instantaneous speed and directional changes were NOT balloons or any other type of man-made flying craft known to science.

Then there was one other thing I saw naked eye in the 60s, probably 500-1000 feet away that I tell myself must have been some sort of balloon, though it made no sense as it was too big to be anything private, and too low to be anything commercial, it was big and long and gray with no markings of any kind, somewhere between 50-150 feet long, but what was most odd is that it was tumbling in the sky, slowly tumbling end to end maybe once every 6 seconds or so, but without any apparent means of power to propel its motion! Worse, it was moving towards the SSW, which meant that it was moving INTO the direction the wind generally comes from! Then it moved beyond my line of sight.

One other account I will relate here came from an aunt of mine who lived on a remote country farm. They had woods way out back behind their field. This was a woman who was very grounded and not at all the sort to make up stories or kid, and had she been kidding, she would have smiled letting me KNOW she was kidding. She told me on one of my visits there that one night she (or they) had been out and saw this light come up out of their woods. She said it gave off an orange glow, hovered above the trees, pulsed a bit, then got bright and shot up into the sky and disappeared.

There, now for those interested (or skeptical), you now have a few accurate 1st hand accounts to cogitate.

 

[Moonglow]

I don’t know what I think but there are several points in this report that just don’t “click”. Also, I find it difficult to trust someone who says “fuck” when he wants to say fuck but says “Oh, my gosh” when he wants to say oh my God:

I had sex with an alien last week.

 

[sparky]

I had sex with an alien last week.

so any offspring would be>>>

~S~

 

[sparky]

There, now for those interested (or skeptical), you now have a few accurate 1st hand accounts to cogitate.

I do believe my friends and i were witness to something very extraordinary hovering above as teens Toob

We watched for a good spell wondering just what it could be , and none of us to this day can say "It could have been a_______ earthly manifestation"

We would not have known who to report to, and even if we did, i'm sure whoever was on the receiving end would have wrote us off as delusional teens

~S~

 

[yidnar]

Travel at the speed of light may be possible but not achievable

Particles in an accelerator can reach that speed but generate significant heat. Heat that a living organism can’t survive

DARPA Funded Researchers Accidentally Discover The World's First Warp Bubble

Warp drive pioneer Dr. Harold G “Sonny” White has reported research results that he believes could theoretically manifest a warp bubble under laboratory conditions.

thedebrief.org

 

[yidnar]

Travel at the speed of light may be possible but not achievable

Particles in an accelerator can reach that speed but generate significant heat. Heat that a living organism can’t survive

if you encase the object in a [warp bubble] it may not be effected by speed ..

 

[sparky]

DARPA Funded Researchers Accidentally Discover The World's First Warp Bubble

Warp drive pioneer Dr. Harold G “Sonny” White has reported research results that he believes could theoretically manifest a warp bubble under laboratory conditions.

thedebrief.org

To further evaluate his groundbreaking results and move the research forward, White and his team have come up with a proposed design for a testable, nano-scale “warp drive craft.”

interesting Yid.......

~S~

 

[GLASNOST]

I had sex with an alien last week.

Birds of a feather, huh?

 

[Mack Brazile]

Who are we to argue with the Military people who handled the materials?

 

[GLASNOST]

Who are we to argue with the Military people who handled the materials?

I don't know ..... but that's a nice video.

 

[MarathonMike]

Do we all accept that the "hunter-gatherer" phase of human development lasted until around 11 thousand years ago? If so, then how can we reconcile that human development leaped from primitive communes into mind boggling structures all over the world constructed of perfectly fitted stones often weighing 50 to 100 tons? Why the heck would primitive people expend the effort to build those structures and cities? How did they create and fit and move the gigantic stones? They had to have guidance from advanced beings. If you have another explanation, feel free to share it.

 

[Mack Brazile]

The man in charge of the of the Roswell Alien UFO recovery

 

[EMH]

The difference between Star Trek and reality is this.


Space is not empty. In Star Trek you go to warp drive and arrive at another star in minutes and your ship doesn't collide with anything.

In reality, space is dirty, rocks, dust, planet centered systems we don't see because they are not lit etc..

If your starship hits a tiny rock at warp speed, the collision will cause nuclear fission on your ship... all dead... sorry...

So your ship has to detect objects in front of it at warp speed (precisely how is the question) and steer around them (at warp speed, which would rip your ship apart).

 

[Mack Brazile]

 

[Captain Caveman]

I don’t know what I think but there are several points in this report that just don’t “click”. Also, I find it difficult to trust someone who says “fuck” when he wants to say fuck but says “Oh, my gosh” when he wants to say oh my God:

In the observable universe, there's anywhere between 1 trillion to 2 trillion galaxies. And each galaxy can have a billion or so stars and many of those stars can have a varying number of planets. Then how many of those planets have moons.

So to think we're the only life against those odds

And that's just taking into account the numbers from the observable universe. One thing is for sure, the size and distance between galaxies means we'll never find out.