Aliens: Are we sceptical of their existence or just too frightened to admit that they do?

[Stryder50]

I assume they are intelligent beings and would not travel hundreds of light years only to buzz the night sky and go home.

They may have technology more advanced than we do but they still have to deal with the same rules of chemistry and physics

Currently the age of the universe is pegged at about 13.5 billion years.
Age of Sol and Earth about 5-4.5 billion years.
We humans are late comers and children in that time scale.
"They", some at least have been here a long time before we humans and have stayed.
"They" hold the lease and title to this System. We are the 'cattle' that come with the 'farm'.

 

[Stryder50]

What would this alien species be eating? ... if they brought their own foods, where are they growing? ... we'd be able to see this from space ...

4.5 billion years of evolution would be ... different ... where they're from ... their nutrition would be different ... only on Star Trek do aliens have exact copies of human reproductive tracks ... that's not what we're expecting "out there" ... mermaids all over again eh? ...

Rules of chemistry and physics are the same throughout the Universe.
The same table of elements exist and apply.
As the basis for biology we can assume the same.
This implies that most species of "Them" would be carbon based life with similar structure and life systems such as found on Earth. Most would likely have bi-lateral symmetry of body design and many quite likely also be very human~humanoid in appearance.

Not only might they be able to eat our food types, but they may have habitats in our Solar System we haven't(can't yet) detect where they grow some of their own.

I've heard that PNW geoduck is a prized and valuable gourmet delicacy in demand at places like Alpha Centauri B4, Arcturus 5, and Tau Ceti 3.

 

[Stryder50]

They clearly showed how it can be done without unavailable massive energy. I am not scientifically knowledgeable enough to explain it, and it has been awhile since I saw the film, but I watched their models carefully. It was very interesting. I would not be at all surprised if Elon Musk or NASA is working on it.

Warp Speed Travel Is Theoretically Possible, Says Astrophysicist

Despite all the intergalactic hopping in science fiction and the occasional extraordinary research claim, most of us have accepted that when it comes to travel, humanity is always going to be limited by the speed of light.

www.sciencealert.com

Faster-than-light 'warp speed' interstellar travel now thought to be possible

Scientists have taken a significant step towards turning the sci-fi concept of "warp drives" into a feasible reality.

www.earth.com

Their inter-stellar transit may not be linear, Newtonian action/reaction physics.
They may have a means of time/space dislocation and transference that circumvents some physics and speed of light considerations.

 

[Stryder50]

I have always wanted to see what others describe as a ghost but I never have. Nevertheless I believe the very serious and reliable people, not given to wild conclusions or making up stories, that have told me of seeing/encountering apparitions that they had no other explanation for other than a ghost. And I have no reason to disbelieve you or several others, again, educated serious people not given to manufacturing any kind of facts, who describe seeing objects in the sky--actually one was landed in a farmer's field--exercising behavior that any rational person would describe as other worldly or no technology known to us.

I thought I might have finally seen some a few months ago but alas, it was a string of Elon's Starlink satellites launched a few hours earlier. Interesting but quite explainable.

But of course if we are being visited by beings from outside our solar system, such beings have mastered warp drive technology. It takes us three days now to travel from Earth to the Moon with our current technology. But should we have warp drive capability:

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Considering our science has only seen about 13.5 billion light years distant in space and time, not where that 90 billion comes from ???

 

[Stryder50]

Did they starve to death before they suffocated? ...

Look ... either they're respiratory creatures, and can exist just fine in our atmosphere ... or they're not respiratory creatures they would catch fire in our oxygen-rich atmosphere ...

Does this mythology teach any lessons? ...

It does, but they are disconcerting. Such as we humans are a biologic and genetic hybrid mixed with their DNA.
Even if we are talking about the others not linked to human past and origins, they might still be wary of airborne viruses, diseases, infections. Some types may not be quite ready to doff the space helmet.

 

[Stryder50]

When the Elohim or Anunnaki last visited, they had major problems in that very area and obvious related other ones .
Nutrients and atmosphere.

For each of their several colonies they built the equivalent of Earth air- tight " Bubbles", a term which got translated--- deliberately?-- into the singular ( one not many), and as Gardens -- hence Garden of Eden etc .

The source for this detail comes from the wealth of written and pictural info across several different civilisations . In particular from the Vedas and other Sanskrit documents and apparently 90% of all known manuscripts still remain untranslated .

I am a great fan of Clif High who is one of the leading authorities in these matters -- if not the foremost .

I find the whole narrative very believable but for those who cannot and do not -- ignore and go elsewhere .
My view is :-
Always let Dullards remain Dull .And if this is based on their subject ignorance -- just smile and ignore .

Anunnaki are still around, just not re-engaging in open and blatant "visitations" and relations, yet.

Consider the late Z. Sitchin for further information, ideas, concepts, etc.

 

[Stryder50]

More information and details available in this thread;
The Geminga Scenario
Which I need to edit, revise , and up date. Soon I hope, maybe with in a couple~few weeks once more urgent Holiday tasks resolved.

 

[Foxfyre]

You have always wanted to see a ghost or you have always wanted to ask someone who's seen a ghost explain to you what they've seen and tell you why they are convinced it is a ghost they've seen? Ask me and I'll tell you.

I don't doubt at all that those who have discussed it with me did see something that had no other explanation other than it was a ghost. I have read a lot of accounts of such paranormal experiences. Some I deem credible and some I deem questionable but those who describe the experience do so very well.

 

[Foxfyre]

Their inter-stellar transit may not be linear, Newtonian action/reaction physics.
They may have a means of time/space dislocation and transference that circumvents some physics and speed of light considerations.

Perhaps. We won't know until we can interview them and/or achieve such technology ourselves.

 

[Stryder50]

Perhaps. We won't know until we can interview them and/or achieve such technology ourselves.

Both may be balls in their court more than ours.
For the next few decades at least.

 

[GLASNOST]

I don't doubt at all that those who have discussed it with me did see something that had no other explanation other than it was a ghost. I have read a lot of accounts of such paranormal experiences. Some I deem credible and some I deem questionable but those who describe the experience do so very well.

In my case (the only one I've had) it was corroborated by more than one other isolated (and un-coached) source. I kept silent and just listened while others described exactly what I saw before I said anything. Both what I saw, and the circumstances were identical.

 

[luiza]

Anunnaki are still around, just not re-engaging in open and blatant "visitations" and relations, yet.

Consider the late Z. Sitchin for further information, ideas, concepts, etc.

I believe we have gone much further than Sitchin , though he certainly set the ball rolling .
Prior to Covid and then Ukraine, Clif High was part of a small planet group who specialised in this area and immediately related subjects. He calls them "the Old Farts Club". All brilliant very high IQ group of polymaths .

Their work has been disrupted though Clif now works closely with Dick Allgire and his Future Forecasting team . They produce remarkable findings .Remote Viewers .

The body of knowledge they have built up about the Elohim is daunting and it seems the Moon is being used as a laboratory and viewing base, though perhaps only inhabited by Greys ( hybrids /robots ?) rather than their creators .

I follow the Men in Black and Black Eyed Children narratives with interest but reserve judgment in terms of full explanations .
All imho .

 

[rightwinger]

Rules of chemistry and physics are the same throughout the Universe.
The same table of elements exist and apply.
As the basis for biology we can assume the same.
This implies that most species of "Them" would be carbon based life with similar structure and life systems such as found on Earth. Most would likely have bi-lateral symmetry of body design and many quite likely also be very human~humanoid in appearance.

Not only might they be able to eat our food types, but they may have habitats in our Solar System we haven't(can't yet) detect where they grow some of their own.

I've heard that PNW geoduck is a prized and valuable gourmet delicacy in demand at places like Alpha Centauri B4, Arcturus 5, and Tau Ceti 3.

Very true

Most of the universe is made up of the basic elements of the periodic table……Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen, Carbon

They have the same building blocks we do

H2O is a building block needed for life and only exists in certain temperature ranges

 

[rightwinger]

Alien craft that "buzz cornfields" aren't the ones used for interstellar flight. They are meant for trans-planetary and intra-plantery transport.
Other larger vessels with different types of energy systems are used for the inter-stellar travels.

"They", some types anyway, have been here already and long before we humans. There's evidence to suggest that "They" were instrumental in accelerating humanoid evolution to 'create' we homo-sapiens-sapiens.

What evidence would that be?
No humans have documented it and they left no trace

 

[ReinyDays]

This race can live up to around 20 000 years but in our artmosphere it was hugely reduced to ca 2000 years .

And this is why the long lives mentioned for early Adamites in the Old Testament are to be taken literally .

And , No .
I have no detail idea what they ate but they had a tremendous interest in a Gold isotope which might link to this subject area .

Does this mythology teach any lessons? ... you seriously believe men have one less rib than women? ...

Lame sauce ... let me guess, not one shred of physical evidence ... this gets hilarious when we look up "Isotopes of Gold" ... but I get it, Gold is precious to humans so it must be precious to aliens ... ROFL ...

No citation means it didn't happen ...

 

[Dr.Destructo]

I once gave a very detailed account of the event in the late 60s with the three objects, but I could not find where is was in a cursory search. I've seen one other object naked eye, again back in the 60s, and two other objects through telescopes (other than the triangle of objects related above), not to mention numerous personal accounts with people I've known, and as an educated and highly skilled observer, and after dismissing everything dismissable as possibly explainable by ordinary ecvents, my only possible conclusion from it all left over that I cannot dismiss is that:

• The government either has fantastic technology like Star Wars centuries ahead of anything we know it keeps totally secret.
• There are alien races from other planets visiting the Earth.

And maybe from that, maybe aliens among us or clandestinely involved with our government already running things here for reasons unknown.

Here, the last object I spotted through a telescope (about 20 years ago), I was able to take some afocal pictures of it. It was at dusk while the sun was down but the sky still lit. Here is one of them.

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THERES my pizza slice!!!!

 

[Dr.Destructo]

Someone put a logically based spin on all this UFO/Alien mumbo jumbo...........

They said "WHY would a supposedly more intelligent and more technologically advanced civilization waste unfathomable amounts of resources and months/years of travelling, just to come here and do "fly bys" to scare the crows"??

Makes sense.

If they ARE supposedly more advanced and more intelligent, then WHY would more intelligent beings waste so many resources, so much energy, and so much time, just to scare the sheep and a few humans??

And if it WERE an invasion, they would come in like the movie Independence Day, not one at a time over the millenia.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I never understood why governments felt the need to cover up UFO and ET's. What's the big deal?

They don't have to travel from Sirius or Proxima if they're already here and have been here for ages

Seriously, what difference does it make in your life? What's the big investment?

 

[GLASNOST]

... "WHY would a supposedly more intelligent and more technologically advanced civilization waste unfathomable amounts of resources and months/years of travelling, just to come here and do "fly bys" to scare the crows"??

Maybe crows are bad luck where they come from. I don't like snakes, spiders, and mosquittos myself. If I was thinking of moving to another planet I'd erradicate them critters before I book the U Haul.

 

[rightwinger]

I never understood why governments felt the need to cover up UFO and ET's. What's the big deal?

Our Defense Dept is always looking for more money.
Why would they pass up the chance to arm for an alien invasion?