Aliens: Are we sceptical of their existence or just too frightened to admit that they do?

[rightwinger]

Absent a magnificent technological breakthrough along the lines of what Star Trek labeled a “warp drive,” the vast distances involved make it all but impossible for us to ever visit other planetary civilizations or for them to ever visit us.

Still, I suppose we cannot rule out such technologies.

Travel at the speed of light may be possible but not achievable

Particles in an accelerator can reach that speed but generate significant heat. Heat that a living organism can’t survive

 

[rightwinger]

I subscribe to what I call “The Cornfield Theory”

Finding a planet with intelligent life is extremely rare. Most planets that contain life would have some single cell organisms or slime.
Travel to reach earth would take at a minimum decades and probably hundreds of years at the speed of light. The next planet with life will take as long.

Now, why would an alien spacecraft buzz some cornfield in Iowa and then disappear?
You would think that if they finally reached a planet with intelligent life that they would stick around a while.

 

[TNHarley]

Our govt has officially admitted to them and no gives a shit. Its crazy

 

[luiza]

Allow me to side-step your conviction by asking for the definition of UFO. "Unidentified" by whom?

Essentially just "Unidentified" by anybody considered Expert from any relevant discipline .
In simple terms , anything that cannot be explained in terrestrial terms -- flying craft , drones , balloons , flares etc. Incoming meteors , space debris etc

And there are tens of thousands of instances from all over the world though there are Sighting Corridors which experience hugely more incidents than should occur statistically .

 

[luiza]

I subscribe to what I call “The Cornfield Theory”

Finding a planet with intelligent life is extremely rare. Most planets that contain life would have some single cell organisms or slime.
Travel to reach earth would take at a minimum decades and probably hundreds of years at the speed of light. The next planet with life will take as long.

Now, why would an alien spacecraft buzz some cornfield in Iowa and then disappear?
You would think that if they finally reached a planet with intelligent life that they would stick around a while.

You confuse " What You Think" with,
"What an Alien might Think" , or , even " Want you to think" .

The Time factor is just Earth 2024 Sheeple thinking .

You have no idea what methods might exist elsewhere with a Species that is millions of years older than us and even from different dimensions.

 

[rightwinger]

You confuse " What You Think" with,
"What an Alien might Think" , or , even " Want you to think" .

The Time factor is just Earth 2024 Sheeple thinking .

You have no idea what methods might exist elsewhere with a Species that is millions of years older than us and even from different dimensions.

I assume they are intelligent beings and would not travel hundreds of light years only to buzz the night sky and go home.

They may have technology more advanced than we do but they still have to deal with the same rules of chemistry and physics

 

[ReinyDays]

What would this alien species be eating? ... if they brought their own foods, where are they growing? ... we'd be able to see this from space ...

4.5 billion years of evolution would be ... different ... where they're from ... their nutrition would be different ... only on Star Trek do aliens have exact copies of human reproductive tracks ... that's not what we're expecting "out there" ... mermaids all over again eh? ...

 

[GLASNOST]

Essentially just "Unidentified" by anybody considered Expert from any relevant discipline .
In simple terms , anything that cannot be explained in terrestrial terms -- flying craft , drones , balloons , flares etc. Incoming meteors , space debris etc

And there are tens of thousands of instances from all over the world though there are Sighting Corridors which experience hugely more incidents than should occur statistically .

The point I was trying to make is that the Deep States has already Identifid those FOs. but claim they are Unidentified in order to keep us dumbed-down.

 

[luiza]

The point I was trying to make is that the Deep States has already Identifid those FOs. but claim they are Unidentified in order to keep us dumbed-down.

Quite possibly .
But the dangers of them drawing wider public conclusions are frighteningly concerning ;_

It would totally undermine the basis of Abrahamic Religions-- the Cult Christians, Moslems and Jews .
The resultant social upheaval could be mind blowing in terms of ill health and suicides . General mayhem , Mass Mind explosions .

Also , it would prompt deeper discussion about Zero Point Energy which is required to explain travel which we measure in Light Years but might then only take seconds. .

Therefore , It would put enormous pressure on the 1% ,as many of us believe they have known about this for some time in detail, from reverse engineering work on crash retrievals .
The world would change beyond imagination and the 1% could lose most of their ongoing income -- many , many trillions .Plus power and status .

The Sheeple could become uncontrollable .More reason to get rid of a few billion !!

All critical points which require detail pre-planning for . And obviously if you are one of the top beneficiaries of the present system .

 

[luiza]

What would this alien species be eating? ... if they brought their own foods, where are they growing? ... we'd be able to see this from space ...

4.5 billion years of evolution would be ... different ... where they're from ... their nutrition would be different ... only on Star Trek do aliens have exact copies of human reproductive tracks ... that's not what we're expecting "out there" ... mermaids all over again eh? ...

When the Elohim or Anunnaki last visited, they had major problems in that very area and obvious related other ones .
Nutrients and atmosphere.

For each of their several colonies they built the equivalent of Earth air- tight " Bubbles", a term which got translated--- deliberately?-- into the singular ( one not many), and as Gardens -- hence Garden of Eden etc .

The source for this detail comes from the wealth of written and pictural info across several different civilisations . In particular from the Vedas and other Sanskrit documents and apparently 90% of all known manuscripts still remain untranslated .

I am a great fan of Clif High who is one of the leading authorities in these matters -- if not the foremost .

I find the whole narrative very believable but for those who cannot and do not -- ignore and go elsewhere .
My view is :-
Always let Dullards remain Dull .And if this is based on their subject ignorance -- just smile and ignore .

 

[Failzero]

Until there is a whistleblower with proof / evidence or an Archeological Find that beats out or resists suppressive efforts many of these will remain unanswered .

 

[BackAgain]

We enjoy our Natural History and Science Museum here in Albuquerque and the scientific movies they show in the Dynamax Theater there. Not all that long ago we watched a documentary on exploring space and they demonstrated how warp drive can be achieved which would allow us to explore our solar system much more efficiently as well as leave our solar system and explore elsewhere. We haven't developed the technology yet but know it can be done.

If other beings from elsewhere in the universe have been checking us out, and I think the probability of that is pretty good, their technology is obviously far advanced from ours. We would still be in the infancy of scientific knowledge in comparison. I am 100% percent that we know only a tiny bit of all the science there is to know.

I read somewhere that while it is theoretically possible to create a warp field (maybe not the actual name for it), it would require so much massive energy that it isn’t feasible to use it to move any ship or any other object.

But … still. We don’t yet know what we might figure out down the road.

I am a fan of space exploration, manned and unmanned.

 

[ReinyDays]

When the Elohim or Anunnaki last visited, they had major problems in that very area and obvious related other ones .
Nutrients and atmosphere.

For each of their several colonies they built the equivalent of Earth air- tight " Bubbles", a term which got translated--- deliberately?-- into the singular ( one not many), and as Gardens -- hence Garden of Eden etc .

The source for this detail comes from the wealth of written and pictural info across several different civilisations . In particular from the Vedas and other Sanskrit documents and apparently 90% of all known manuscripts still remain untranslated .

I am a great fan of Clif High who is one of the leading authorities in these matters -- if not the foremost .

I find the whole narrative very believable but for those who cannot and do not -- ignore and go elsewhere .
My view is :-
Always let Dullards remain Dull .And if this is based on their subject ignorance -- just smile and ignore .

Did they starve to death before they suffocated? ...

Look ... either they're respiratory creatures, and can exist just fine in our atmosphere ... or they're not respiratory creatures they would catch fire in our oxygen-rich atmosphere ...

Does this mythology teach any lessons? ...

 

[Foxfyre]

I read somewhere that while it is theoretically possible to create a warp field (maybe not the actual name for it), it would require so much massive energy that it isn’t feasible to use it to move any ship or any other object.

But … still. We don’t yet know what we might figure out down the road.

I am a fan of space exploration, manned and unmanned.

They clearly showed how it can be done without unavailable massive energy. I am not scientifically knowledgeable enough to explain it, and it has been awhile since I saw the film, but I watched their models carefully. It was very interesting. I would not be at all surprised if Elon Musk or NASA is working on it.

Warp Speed Travel Is Theoretically Possible, Says Astrophysicist

Despite all the intergalactic hopping in science fiction and the occasional extraordinary research claim, most of us have accepted that when it comes to travel, humanity is always going to be limited by the speed of light.

www.sciencealert.com

Faster-than-light 'warp speed' interstellar travel now thought to be possible

Scientists have taken a significant step towards turning the sci-fi concept of "warp drives" into a feasible reality.

www.earth.com

 

[Foxfyre]

Well, Glas, I will just tell you what I've told people here before:

• I've been quit the amateur space observer in my life and among other things, back in the late 1960s observed three stellar objects high in the sky one night in my first telescope performing maneuvers flying together that were totally physically impossible for anything man-made to do even to this day. Things like instantaneous changes in direction and speed.
• Many years ago, an aunt of mine who lived on a remote country farm related to me her seeing an object rising out of her woods that was unlike anything we had at the time and still not today.
• Before he died, a dear friend of mine who knew he didn't have long to live related personal accounts to me of experiences he had.

Beyond that, dismissing 95% of all reported sightings and incidents which can be explained away as natural or other things, that still leaves the other 5% which still adds up to thousands and thousands of bizarre events witnessed which no one, not even the authorities, have the slightest credible explanation for.

You take from that what you wish.

I have always wanted to see what others describe as a ghost but I never have. Nevertheless I believe the very serious and reliable people, not given to wild conclusions or making up stories, that have told me of seeing/encountering apparitions that they had no other explanation for other than a ghost. And I have no reason to disbelieve you or several others, again, educated serious people not given to manufacturing any kind of facts, who describe seeing objects in the sky--actually one was landed in a farmer's field--exercising behavior that any rational person would describe as other worldly or no technology known to us.

I thought I might have finally seen some a few months ago but alas, it was a string of Elon's Starlink satellites launched a few hours earlier. Interesting but quite explainable.

But of course if we are being visited by beings from outside our solar system, such beings have mastered warp drive technology. It takes us three days now to travel from Earth to the Moon with our current technology. But should we have warp drive capability:

 

[toobfreak]

I have always wanted to see what others describe as a ghost but I never have. Nevertheless I believe the very serious and reliable people, not given to wild conclusions or making up stories, that have told me of seeing/encountering apparitions that they had no other explanation for other than a ghost.

Roddy Piper the wrestler lived in a haunted house. There was a documentary about it. I knew a guy who said the house next to him was haunted. He lived in the woods and it was just the two houses. The other house was unoccupied--- it looked like the family just got up one day and left. Furniture, clothes, dishes, etc., all laying around as if they just got up one day and walked out.

The other house where my friend lived had hexagrams on it, wooden things with designs. He said they kept evil spirits away. He also got good luck in that house. My buddy told me that the other house listened to us. He had a big doberman guard dog trained to kill that when he left it out, would not go anywhere near that house.

We went over there once at night, we needed a plumbing part so went over to steal one out of the basement. It was strange. As soon as we got half way to the other house, right where the dog would stop going, a cold feeling came over you. But other than that, I never saw nothing and nothing strange happened. But I wouldn't have gone there alone.

 

[GLASNOST]

I have always wanted to see what others describe as a ghost but I never have.

You have always wanted to see a ghost or you have always wanted to ask someone who's seen a ghost explain to you what they've seen and tell you why they are convinced it is a ghost they've seen? Ask me and I'll tell you.

 

[luiza]

Did they starve to death before they suffocated? ...

Look ... either they're respiratory creatures, and can exist just fine in our atmosphere ... or they're not respiratory creatures they would catch fire in our oxygen-rich atmosphere ...

Does this mythology teach any lessons? ...

This race can live up to around 20 000 years but in our artmosphere it was hugely reduced to ca 2000 years .

And this is why the long lives mentioned for early Adamites in the Old Testament are to be taken literally .

And , No .
I have no detail idea what they ate but they had a tremendous interest in a Gold isotope which might link to this subject area .

 

[Stryder50]

I don’t know what I think but there are several points in this report that just don’t “click”. Also, I find it difficult to trust someone who says “fuck” when he wants to say fuck but says “Oh, my gosh” when he wants to say oh my God:

In answer to your thread title, try "Other".
Several "Other"s.

 

[Stryder50]

I subscribe to what I call “The Cornfield Theory”

Finding a planet with intelligent life is extremely rare. Most planets that contain life would have some single cell organisms or slime.
Travel to reach earth would take at a minimum decades and probably hundreds of years at the speed of light. The next planet with life will take as long.

Now, why would an alien spacecraft buzz some cornfield in Iowa and then disappear?
You would think that if they finally reached a planet with intelligent life that they would stick around a while.

Alien craft that "buzz cornfields" aren't the ones used for interstellar flight. They are meant for trans-planetary and intra-plantery transport.
Other larger vessels with different types of energy systems are used for the inter-stellar travels.

"They", some types anyway, have been here already and long before we humans. There's evidence to suggest that "They" were instrumental in accelerating humanoid evolution to 'create' we homo-sapiens-sapiens.