Alex Jones: Trump Is Either Ignorant Or The Most Evil Person Ever

[Dragonlady]

No intelligent person thinks that President Trump actually lost the vote.

No Billie, you have it backwards. No intelligent person voted for Trump and no intelligent person believes Trump won the election.

 

[kyzr]

Biden won by 7 million votes, so there's some basis to claim a popular mandate.
I never claimed Biden won in a landslide, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander, I guess. I see a lot of people on the left noting that this was Trump's standard so they're adopting it. Such as this:
Richmond, Nov. 22: This was a fair election. Joe Biden won by over 6 million votes in the popular vote. 306 electoral votes, which is the exact same number that Donald Trump had that he called a landslide. So, Joe Biden won with a mandate and a landslide and now it’s time to transition.

All true, but if you look at the actual vote results you see a few anomalies.
1. Why did so many ballots only have a vote for Joe Biden and none for down ballot candidates? Could it be because it would skewed the results for the down ballot candidates, such as many more votes than actual voters? Just sayin'.

2. Xiden's claim of a landslide can also be refuted by looking at the House races. No GOP candidates lost, the GOP gained 12 House seats in 2020. The senate is tied at 50-50 only because the dumb asses in GA put up Collins against Kelly Loeffler, thereby splitting the GOP vote allowing Warnock to win.

3. Not sure what you mean by "transition"? His "mandate" is limited to what he can accomplish with votes. Joe Manchin is kinda pissing on Xiden's "mandate", huh? I hope he switches to the GOP to align with his state's voters.

 

[colfax_m]

All true, but if you look at the actual vote results you see a few anomalies.
1. Why did so many ballots only have a vote for Joe Biden and none for down ballot candidates? Could it be because it would skewed the results for the down ballot candidates, such as many more votes than actual voters? Just sayin'.

2. Xiden's claim of a landslide can also be refuted by looking at the House races. No GOP candidates lost, the GOP gained 12 House seats in 2020. The senate is tied at 50-50 only because the dumb asses in GA put up Collins against Kelly Loeffler, thereby splitting the GOP vote allowing Warnock to win.

3. Not sure what you mean by "transition"? His "mandate" is limited to what he can accomplish with votes. Joe Manchin is kinda pissing on Xiden's "mandate", huh? I hope he switches to the GOP to align with his state's voters.

1. Happens every presidential election. Some people can only bring themselves to vote in the "big elections" and don't vote down ballot. The "more votes than actual voters" doesn't make any sense, since they're still voting. This one is quite illogical.

2. The Senate is tied 50-50 even though there's more Republican states than Democratic states. It's not an accurate representation of the American people.

3. I produced a quote from someone in Biden's campaign during the transition. Everyone's mandate is limited by what they can accomplish with votes. If Trump claimed a mandate, Biden gets to with the added benefit of having won the popular vote by millions. At the end of the day, most people didn't want Trump to be president. That's true in 2020. It's also true in 2016.

 

[kyzr]

But there was no tie...unless one was manufactured illegally
But Trump kept trying to get them too
Irrelevant
True...all Trump had to do was show the least amount of competence and compassion and he'd be President.
Neither was in his DNA

1. We're talking past each other. My earlier post said that Trump could have won in 2020 if 43,000 votes went from Biden to Trump.

2. If Trump tried to get them to, that would have been unconstitutional. VP Pence adhered to the Constitution.

3. Totally relevant. Its what this discussion is about. If Trump was more presidential, he would still be president. Woulda, coulda, shoulda, but lost, by 43,000 votes via the EC.

4. Agreed. Trump lost because of Trump and no one else.

 

[kyzr]

1. Happens every presidential election. Some people can only bring themselves to vote in the "big elections" and don't vote down ballot. The "more votes than actual voters" doesn't make any sense, since they're still voting. This one is quite illogical.

2. The Senate is tied 50-50 even though there's more Republican states than Democratic states. It's not an accurate representation of the American people.

3. I produced a quote from someone in Biden's campaign during the transition. Everyone's mandate is limited by what they can accomplish with votes. If Trump claimed a mandate, Biden gets to with the added benefit of having won the popular vote by millions. At the end of the day, most people didn't want Trump to be president. That's true in 2020. It's also true in 2016.

1. Okay, if democrats registered bogus voters, it would be much easier to do "Biden only" ballots, than to replicate realistic down ballot votes. You may be right that 2020 was legitimate, but there are many anomalies to work thru.

New Judicial Watch Study Finds 353 U.S. Counties in 29 States with Voter Registration Rates Exceeding 100% - Judicial Watch

1.8 Million ‘Extra’ Registered Voters (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that a September 2020 study revealed that 353 U.S. counties had 1.8 million more registered voters than eligible voting-age citizens. In other words, the registration rates of those counties exceeded 100% of...

www.judicialwatch.org

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that a September 2020 study revealed that 353 U.S. counties had 1.8 million more registered voters than eligible voting-age citizens. In other words, the registration rates of those counties exceeded 100% of eligible voters. The study found eight states showing state-wide registration rates exceeding 100%: Alaska, Colorado, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Vermont.

2. Joe Manchin is one example of an old school democrat in a GOP state. Sinema is another, Tester is another. In PA we have one dem senator (Casey) and one GOP senator (Toomey). You must be assuming that voters vote party over the man. We'll see in 2022 if that holds true. Voters will probably favor the GOP due to the Xoden "shit show" of an administration..

3. Xiden can claim a mandate, it means nothing. Its the vote count that matters as to what you can accomplish. The bi-partisan infrastructure Bill passed easily. The socialist BBB Bill is dead. Mandates are talking points, not real things.

 

[kyzr]

No intelligent person thinks that President Trump actually lost the vote.

You have any audit findings to report?

Any court cases won?

Any revised EC votes? Didn't think so...

 

[Billiejeens]

You have any audit findings to report?

Any court cases won?

Any revised EC votes? Didn't think so...

Thank you for outing yourself.
You are now dismissed.

 

[strollingbones]

why either or? why not both

 

[Mac-7]

You know, it is actually possible to think poorly of both men, it does not have to be one or the other

And what?

vote for some dopehead third party loser who promises to legalize drugs?

or like your twin Mac1958 and vote for biden anyway just because he’s not trump?

trump was not perfect

but he did represent something lib tweeners always said they wanted

an outsider who was not beholden to the corrupt uniparty political establishment in washington

 

[strollingbones]

i am so sick of unamerican pos who claim the election was stolen....bunch of snowflakes who cant/wont accept defeat just a bunch of whiny losers

 

[Dragonlady]

Trump lost because of his ego, period. Trump's 1st debate "shit show" cost him many more votes than the 43,000 he needed to win. If the stupid MF could acted presidential we wouldn't have the current Xiden "shit show".

Trump lost the election because he did a REALLY bad job of running the country - even before covid.

 

[Rigby5]

1. Happens every presidential election. Some people can only bring themselves to vote in the "big elections" and don't vote down ballot. The "more votes than actual voters" doesn't make any sense, since they're still voting. This one is quite illogical.

2. The Senate is tied 50-50 even though there's more Republican states than Democratic states. It's not an accurate representation of the American people.

3. I produced a quote from someone in Biden's campaign during the transition. Everyone's mandate is limited by what they can accomplish with votes. If Trump claimed a mandate, Biden gets to with the added benefit of having won the popular vote by millions. At the end of the day, most people didn't want Trump to be president. That's true in 2020. It's also true in 2016.

A mandate is winning by something like twice what the other person got, not just 1%, so there has not been a "mandate" since Reagan.
And look at how badly Reagan did once in office?
It took decades to pay of SDI borrowing.

 

[colfax_m]

1. Okay, if democrats registered bogus voters, it would be much easier to do "Biden only" ballots, than to replicate realistic down ballot votes. You may be right that 2020 was legitimate, but there are many anomalies to work thru.

New Judicial Watch Study Finds 353 U.S. Counties in 29 States with Voter Registration Rates Exceeding 100% - Judicial Watch

1.8 Million ‘Extra’ Registered Voters (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that a September 2020 study revealed that 353 U.S. counties had 1.8 million more registered voters than eligible voting-age citizens. In other words, the registration rates of those counties exceeded 100% of...

www.judicialwatch.org

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that a September 2020 study revealed that 353 U.S. counties had 1.8 million more registered voters than eligible voting-age citizens. In other words, the registration rates of those counties exceeded 100% of eligible voters. The study found eight states showing state-wide registration rates exceeding 100%: Alaska, Colorado, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Vermont.

2. Joe Manchin is one example of an old school democrat in a GOP state. Sinema is another, Tester is another. In PA we have one dem senator (Casey) and one GOP senator (Toomey). You must be assuming that voters vote party over the man. We'll see in 2022 if that holds true. Voters will probably favor the GOP due to the Xoden "shit show" of an administration..

3. Xiden can claim a mandate, it means nothing. Its the vote count that matters as to what you can accomplish. The bi-partisan infrastructure Bill passed easily. The socialist BBB Bill is dead. Mandates are talking points, not real things.

1. Democrats didn't register bogus voters. It's not "easier" to do Biden only voters if all you have to do is fill in a few more bubbles. This is a pretty big reach, trying to find something to fit your narrative.

The judicial watch study is highly flawed. It used a census estimate (not a true census) that was out of date by 2-6 years and included inactive voters in their analysis.

2. Voters do vote party line over man the vast majority of the time. Partisanship is out of control.

3. Declaring a mandate is public relations only. It meant equally nothing when Trump and his supporters repeated it ad nauseum in 2017.

 

[Rigby5]

i am so sick of unamerican pos who claim the election was stolen....bunch of snowflakes who cant/wont accept defeat just a bunch of whiny losers

We have not had a fair election in over a century.
The 2 party system with a primary, is totally corrupt and designed to prevent good candidates from being able to be on the ballot at all.

 

[kyzr]

Thank you for outing yourself.
You are now dismissed.

You really don't know how to "fact based" debate do you?
Maybe you should research before you post stupid shit.

 

[kyzr]

1. Democrats didn't register bogus voters. It's not "easier" to do Biden only voters if all you have to do is fill in a few more bubbles. This is a pretty big reach, trying to find something to fit your narrative.

The judicial watch study is highly flawed. It used a census estimate (not a true census) that was out of date by 2-6 years and included inactive voters in their analysis.

2. Voters do vote party line over man the vast majority of the time. Partisanship is out of control.

3. Declaring a mandate is public relations only. It meant equally nothing when Trump and his supporters repeated it ad nauseum in 2017.

1. Years ago both parties used to track down registered voters to verify legitimacy. I hope we do that again. Voter rolls need to be super-accurate.

2. Agreed. Too many voters are straight-party voters.

3. Agreed. Declaring a "mandate" is PR only.

 

[Billiejeens]

You really don't know how to "fact based" debate do you?
Maybe you should research before you post stupid shit.

Do you not understand "dismissed"?

 

[colfax_m]

1. Years ago both parties used to track down registered voters to verify legitimacy. I hope we do that again. Voter rolls need to be super-accurate.

2. Agreed. Too many voters are straight-party voters.

3. Agreed. Declaring a "mandate" is PR only.

1. We do. I'm pretty sure we do more so now than ever before since there are computer systems for doing so.

 

[kyzr]

Trump lost the election because he did a REALLY bad job of running the country - even before covid.

Wrong. Before Covid the US was the best ever.
1. Unemployment was the lowest ever.

2. The GDP was the best ever.

3. Stop LYING.

 

[kyzr]

Do you not understand "dismissed"?

Do you understand "Go fuck yourself"?