ALEC forgoes social issues to declare war on environment

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Looks like they're not trying to hide their agenda anymore. Lobbyists for the extraction industry.

ALEC looks to shred EPA regulations Al Jazeera America

“It’s a definitely an escalation from what we’ve seen in previous years, and that’s noteworthy because ALEC has come under a lot of criticism for its anti-environmental positions,” said Aliya Haq, climate change special projects director at the National Resources Defense Council, a D.C.-based environmental group. “What’s interesting is that ALEC has doubled down on its anti-environmental agenda.”

In the last two years, Google, Yahoo, Yelp, Microsoft, Visa, Merck, General Motors, Walgreen’s, Walmart, Amazon, Proctor Gamble, McDonald’s, Kraft and Coca-Cola have all decided not to renew their membership with the organization. Some of those departures are linked to ALEC’s sponsorship of “Stand Your Ground” gun laws, which came into national prominence after the killing of unarmed Florida teen Trayvon Martin in 2012.

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[Stephanie]

gawd, for you all claiming you are anti-WAR. you sure have a lot of wars DECLARED

do you feel stupid over that?

 

[Dot Com]

Good ol' rw steph can be counted on for a laugh

shouldn't you be in the "Ketchup is a Vegetable" thread?

 

[American Horse]

This is part and parcel of the attempted by the left (including leftist lawmakers) to intimidate business and corporate donors to ALEC.

All of these corporations and many others have been targeted by left wing groups who were able, illegally, to find out who these supporters were, ostensibly, by gaining access to Internal Revenue Service tax returns filed by ALEC, a 501(c)3 organization.
Senator DickDurban sent a letter to some 300 ALEC business contributors - whom he had no legal way of discovering that they were donors to ALEC - asking if they supported ALEC’s position on “Stand Your Ground” law.

That letter to ALEC supporters came in advance of his promised Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing on “stand your ground” laws he held in September.

Senator TedCruz said in a letter defending the group: "Senator Durbin's request for ALEC supporters to announce an official position on gun laws in advance of a Senate Judiciary Subcommittee hearing is inappropriate," Mr.Cruz called it "an inappropriate governmental intrusion into the personal and political views of American citizens and businesses. In light of the current IRS targeting scandal, this action raises concerns about retaliation against those who may disagree with the Chairman and the Obama Administration."

An ALEC letter to its members sent out on Friday August 8th (2014) noted that "Members and donors to 501(c)3 organizations are specifically protected by the Internal Revenue Service and the Supreme Court to shield them from the type of political intimidation found in Senator Durbin's letter."

Among other things, ALEC's board is investigating how Mr.Durbin obtained a list of the group's undisclosed donors and whether the Internal Revenue Service played a role.

The abuse of the IRS to target, intimidate and harm by stalling and persecuting T-Party groups attempting to organize did not stop there, nor were those inside the IRS intimidated by the fact that they were acting illegally as exposed by hearings in the house. Hopefully when the Senate is restored to the adults in January there will be an actual investigation into IRS activities and Durban's collusion with the same miscreants as Lois Lerner's emails are finally open to review..

 

[Stephanie]

Yep if they can't win in the courts of law and the PEOPLE just voted them OUT OF POWER under Obama's rein of terror in just SIX YEARS, SO they come out with the SMEARS. that is how DIRTY THEY ARE

time to take this country back from these nasty people

 

[Billy_Bob]

Yep if they can't win in the courts of law and the PEOPLE just voted them OUT OF POWER under Obama's rein of terror in just SIX YEARS, SO they come out with the SMEARS. that is how DIRTY THEY ARE

time to take this country back from these nasty people

Yep! and i would take it a step further by placing these people in prison. Durbin, Obama, Pelosi, Ried, and the list of left wit morons is long..

 

[Crick]

On what grounds Billy? And what would you do with the people that elected them? Do they need to go to prison as well? Is that your vision of democracy Billy?

 

[skookerasbil]

The OP is a dummy...........thinks in 2014, the EPA regulations have to do with the environment!!

Most Americans look at EPA regulations as a zero sum game........they have no clue about the necessary tradeoffs that nobody in government tells them about.

This is not a partisan thing AT ALL. Bush and Obama both fucked America over with clusterfuck numbers of regulations in the past 15 years.

The other AGW crusaders KNOW the EPA regulations have nothing to do with the environment. EPA regulations are devastating to small business and manufacturing and cause peoples quality of lives, and in many cases, careers to be fucked permanently.

But these AGW people are looking out to all of us..............clearly far more compassionate.

The reality is, their agenda says **** YOU to millions of Americans trying to make it......trying to scrape by........



EPA s climate regulations impede economic growth TheHill



The EPA doesn't even analyze the effects of its regulations.......lmao..........
EPA ignores its own economic analyses small business agency says WashingtonExaminer.com



And who knew this? Some of these new 3,000+ regulations include new manufacturing rules for fireplaces and wood burning stoves........requires them to put in these stoopid-ass sleeves. Of course, anybody with half a brain realizes this cost will be passed on to the consumer raising the price significantly.........and for who........the people trying to save $$ on energy costs!! Very convenient for green energy though is it not?? Drive people away from fireplaces by ******* the marketplace via regulations.

Proposed EPA Regulations Take Effect in 2015 Wood Burning Stoves and Fireplaces Targeted MarketersMedia 8211 Press Release Distribution Services 8211 News Release Distribution Services


New emission standards for wood stoves will drive up costs thwarting desired effect say Maine manufacturer dealer 8212 Business 8212 Bangor Daily News 8212 BDN Maine

As Ive said many times............the AGW crusaders never, never, ever make part of their mission, having to answer the question, "At what cost?". The way their brains work..........and Im not even kidding..........don't allow them to analyze necessary tradeoffs. One will note in any of their posts.........costs and comparisons DO NOT EXIST!!


Think about it people........bury people enough and what options do they have except to turn to government??!!!

Pretty damn convenient for those looking for permanent power, huh?!!!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

2.5 million people work in the coal industry.........2.5 million.

Do the climate crusaders give a rats ass about these people? They are closing these plants down and nuking generations of hard working Americans way of life. Not to mention.......out electric rates are GOING UP s0ns!!! By a lot............Obama said so himself in 2008!!!

Game we can t win Coal states brace for growing number of plant closures over EPA rules Fox News

 

[skookerasbil]

The EPA does one thing effectively and one thing only........paves the way for socialism in America. Go read a cliff notes on Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals"........a far left k00k, he speaks to using ENVIRONMENTALISM as a pillar for destroying capitalism.


snopes.com Saul Alinsky How to Create a Social State

 

[mamooth]

In 2006, coal-industry employment in the USA was 174,000. That included mining, transportation and power generation. Skook, you were only off by more than a factor of 10, which is better than your usual accuracy.

In 2014, numbers will be down even more. To about the same as the number of massage therapists. Coal is a tiny player in the US economy.

So Skook, do you agree with Billy about how all the people that your voices have told you to hate need to be sent to the gulag?

 

[Billy_Bob]

On what grounds Billy? And what would you do with the people that elected them? Do they need to go to prison as well? Is that your vision of democracy Billy?

Violations of the Separations of powers. Criminal acts using the EPA and IRS to target those they do not agree with. Shall I go on? The list is long and any one item is grounds for imprisonment. Just wait until the republican congress is seated and we get a good look at Lerners and Obama's emails...

I fully expect a special prosecutor called for by the House.

 

[mamooth]

Billy, is there any FOX News conspiracy theory you haven't fallen for? I mean, even one?

 

[Dot Com]

environmental threads always "smoke out" the rw eXtremists/deniers.

For the rw dupes: ALEC writes the legislation, VERY friendly to their aims (polluting/flooding the streets w/ guns, etc...) and the legislators merely introduce it verbatim. Fascism anyone?

 

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[Billy_Bob]

Obama took that Oath and ran with it... Soylendra... and about 1.7 trillion in cash missing..

 

[Dot Com]

link William?

 

[Billy_Bob]

link William?

Any one with even half a brain knows that the debt was just 9 trillion when shit head took his oath. it is now well over 18.7 trillion.. **** head and democrats have doubled the national debt in SIX YEARS...
Freakin Moron..

 

[Dot Com]

so no link kiddo?

Stop wasting our time shit stain

 

[ScienceRocks]

Why attack solar as long as it is economical?