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Which is why addiction is not a disease
You can cure it by simply abstaining from the substance you are addicted to.
So if I lock an alcoholic in a room where it is impossible for him to get alcohol he will be cured
If I lock a guy with cancer in a room the mere act of locking him in a room will not cure his cancer
Cancer is a disease alcoholism isn't
So. Correct. Stopping is starting.Which is why addiction is not a disease
You can cure it by simply abstaining from the substance you are addicted to.
So if I lock an alcoholic in a room where it is impossible for him to get alcohol he will be cured
If I lock a guy with cancer in a room the mere act of locking him in a room will not cure his cancer
Cancer is a disease alcoholism isn't
Locking someone in a room will cause them to not drink, just as you can stop someone from breathing locking them in an airproof room.
If an alcoholic is deprived of alcohol for a year, they'll be sober, but not in recovery. Unless the underlying cause of the addiction is addressed, the chance of a relapse or slip is almost certain. JUST not drinking is not a solution, that's called white-knuckling. An alcoholic is dependent psychologically and physically. If something does not take the place of the drinking, that too increases the chance of a relapse.
Whether someone calls it a disease or not, to me makes no difference whatsoever. Whatever works for them. works for me.
Fear of death is a good motivator .Locking someone in a room will cause them to not drink, just as you can stop someone from breathing locking them in an airproof room.
If an alcoholic is deprived of alcohol for a year, they'll be sober, but not in recovery. Unless the underlying cause of the addiction is addressed, the chance of a relapse or slip is almost certain. JUST not drinking is not a solution, that's called white-knuckling. An alcoholic is dependent psychologically and physically. If something does not take the place of the drinking, that too increases the chance of a relapse.
Whether someone calls it a disease or not, to me makes no difference whatsoever. Whatever works for them. works for me.
Has it affected you, a family member, loved one?
I've seen my share over the years.
Hope I don't regret this post.
Good for you, keep fighting!I witnessed a total nightmare in a 10 day period.
The fight or flight was in the air.
I'm a fighter
Another thing I notice about folks who are all wrapped up in shit like meth, cocaine booze or whatever and that's the ability to become comfortable with being a sack of shit. They may steal some shit, and the excuse it that it was just a rich person or they were assholes and always have it coming. That, and when you are busted it's always someone else's fault. The addicts ability to blame is legendary.
Another thing I notice about folks who are all wrapped up in shit like meth, cocaine booze or whatever and that's the ability to become comfortable with being a sack of shit. They may steal some shit, and the excuse it that it was just a rich person or they were assholes and always have it coming. That, and when you are busted it's always someone else's fault. The addicts ability to blame is legendary.
Not that I'm condoning theft ( btw , how do they steal from rich people nowadays, with gated driveways and security cameras everywhere ?) but it occurs to me the addiction problem in this country largely could have been and can be prevented by a) ending the 'war on drugs' and legalizing most drugs b) providing free counselling and treatment for addiction c) regulating drug manufacturers so they can't flood the streets with prescription drugs and shut down the flood of heroin from Afghanistan and Mexico etc...d) harsh sentences for any individuals caught 'cooking' drugs such as meth, ice, fentanyl or other dangerous substances.
It's not that simple. Cancer and addiction are both diseases.dsir,Both my parents were addicts and yet I have no trouble with booze or drugs.It's called a genetic predisposition. The language used in the link also follows the "disease" theory. If your parents, grandparents, etc. are alcoholics/addicts then you would be at a higher risk to become the same. Men are not excluded. In fact, the substance abuse by the father leading up to the time of conception also impacts the baby. Genetics and alcoholismNo one becomes an instant alcoholic it takes a long time of daily heavy drinking to become addicted
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It takes a long time to get addicted to anything
Becoming an alcoholic takes commitment
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Were you a drug baby or did the addiction come later on down the road?
This is FAS
Fetal alcohol syndrome - Symptoms and causes
Basics about FASDs
You can have a mom that sporadically drank or drank and didn't know they were pregnant and the screening at the time of birth comes out fine and FAS is not diagnosed. At least not right off the bat.
It doesn't take that long to get addicted to heroin, meth, crack, fentanyl. At all. And if you have a newborn that is going through withdrawals from name your drug they are born addicts.
It's a higher risk. You can have five siblings born to drug addicts and 3 of them have substance abuse issues of their own and two don't have any issues. Why? Dunno. I like to call it......don't need to be hit by a mac truck to know it hurts theory.
There is clear evidence with addiction and physiological changes in the brain's pleasure centers.
Still, the only real "cure" is to modify behaviors.
Which is why addiction is not a disease
You can cure it by simply abstaining from the substance you are addicted to.
So if I lock an alcoholic in a room where it is impossible for him to get alcohol he will be cured
If I lock a guy with cancer in a room the mere act of locking him in a room will not cure his cancer
Cancer is a disease alcoholism isn't
And I did try AA, it just didn't seem to work for me. I guess that's probably because I don't WANT to give up drinking completely. I'd still like to have a beer or two if I want.
If you deprive any addict the substance to which they are addicted for a sufficient period of time then the addiction is remedied and no longer exists.Which is why addiction is not a disease
You can cure it by simply abstaining from the substance you are addicted to.
So if I lock an alcoholic in a room where it is impossible for him to get alcohol he will be cured
If I lock a guy with cancer in a room the mere act of locking him in a room will not cure his cancer
Cancer is a disease alcoholism isn't
Locking someone in a room will cause them to not drink, just as you can stop someone from breathing locking them in an airproof room.
If an alcoholic is deprived of alcohol for a year, they'll be sober, but not in recovery. Unless the underlying cause of the addiction is addressed, the chance of a relapse or slip is almost certain. JUST not drinking is not a solution, that's called white-knuckling. An alcoholic is dependent psychologically and physically. If something does not take the place of the drinking, that too increases the chance of a relapse.
Whether someone calls it a disease or not, to me makes no difference whatsoever. Whatever works for them. works for me.
It's not that simple. Cancer and addiction are both diseases.dsir,Both my parents were addicts and yet I have no trouble with booze or drugs.It's called a genetic predisposition. The language used in the link also follows the "disease" theory. If your parents, grandparents, etc. are alcoholics/addicts then you would be at a higher risk to become the same. Men are not excluded. In fact, the substance abuse by the father leading up to the time of conception also impacts the baby. Genetics and alcoholism
It takes a long time to get addicted to anything
Becoming an alcoholic takes commitment
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Were you a drug baby or did the addiction come later on down the road?
This is FAS
Fetal alcohol syndrome - Symptoms and causes
Basics about FASDs
You can have a mom that sporadically drank or drank and didn't know they were pregnant and the screening at the time of birth comes out fine and FAS is not diagnosed. At least not right off the bat.
It doesn't take that long to get addicted to heroin, meth, crack, fentanyl. At all. And if you have a newborn that is going through withdrawals from name your drug they are born addicts.
It's a higher risk. You can have five siblings born to drug addicts and 3 of them have substance abuse issues of their own and two don't have any issues. Why? Dunno. I like to call it......don't need to be hit by a mac truck to know it hurts theory.
There is clear evidence with addiction and physiological changes in the brain's pleasure centers.
Still, the only real "cure" is to modify behaviors.
Which is why addiction is not a disease
You can cure it by simply abstaining from the substance you are addicted to.
So if I lock an alcoholic in a room where it is impossible for him to get alcohol he will be cured
If I lock a guy with cancer in a room the mere act of locking him in a room will not cure his cancer
Cancer is a disease alcoholism isn't
If you lock an alcoholic in a room where it is impossible for him to get alcohol, sure he may be cured in mild cases. However, in more serious cases he may die from acute alcohol withdrawal.
One exception I can think of is second-hand smoke.Addiction is not a disease. Addiction is the result of repeated use of a substance or drug which causes biochemical and physical changes in the body and that physical dependence takes time to manifest. It takes a protracted period of very heavy drinking to become addicted to alcohol.
A person can get cancer regardless of their behavior one cannot become an addict without engaging in the behaviors that cause addiction
My mom drank Lite beer (every day)and smoked Marlboro Light 100's for almost 30 yearsAlcoholism sort of runs in my family. My mother wasn't a drinker but my father was what I'd call a functioning alcoholic. His drinking never interfered with his work. He was almost exclusively a social drinker, I never saw him drink at home. His social drinking away from home with his friends DID have a negative affect on his marriage. My mother told me after I had reached my teens that my father had cheated on her as a direct result of his drinking. I've struggled with drinking at times, but it never interfered with my work. I drink sometimes when I'm depressed. I KNOW it's not good to do, but I still do it occasionally. I sometimes drink a bit too much when I'm out and I know that's definitely not a good thing. I tend to limit my heavy drinking at home. By "heavy" drinking, I mean more than two beers, which I don't do that often. So, alcoholism does seem to be in my blood, so to speak.
Has it affected you, a family member, loved one?
I've seen my share over the years.
Hope I don't regret this post.
Started drinking at 14. I quit drinking in May 1994 after 40 years of heavy drinking. Going on 26 years of sobriety.
One exception I can think of is second-hand smoke.Addiction is not a disease. Addiction is the result of repeated use of a substance or drug which causes biochemical and physical changes in the body and that physical dependence takes time to manifest. It takes a protracted period of very heavy drinking to become addicted to alcohol.
A person can get cancer regardless of their behavior one cannot become an addict without engaging in the behaviors that cause addiction
Both my parents smoked all the time in the house, in the car, wherever -- and by the time I tried my first cigarette at 15, I was almost immediately hooked . ( in other words I was essentially a smoker before even starting...my body was already craving nicotine )
Fortunately, I quit 30 years later and it's been 10 years now. (Going on 2 years for alcohol)
Are some addictions like alcoholism hereditary ? Probably but I'd guess most
of them are environmental. If you separated crack baby twins, sent one to a well-adjusted middle class family in Toronto and the other to an orphanage in Brooklyn, it's not hard to guess how each would turn likely turn out.