Alas, Cities Finally Confirm What We Already Knew Regarding the Spike in COVID Cases

[Mac-7]

Well, at the moment, no state is really shut down

No state is normal either

closing bars may seem trivial but a lot of money changes hands that is important to the health of the economy

opening other businesses at 25 or 50% is just a form of slow death for many

No sports. That creates a huge hole in the economy and hurts low income workers the most

there is far more that I didnt name and much that I dont even know about

but it all adds up - or subtracts from the economy - over time

 

[Cecilie1200]

With a mask, am I not breathing back in what I just exhausted? That does not seem good?

Not only that, if you use the same mask for any length of time, you're also breathing in any bacteria that has grown on the moisture your breath has left on it.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Depends on the mask. You think doctors and nurses wear them just for fun? 150,000 Americans dead is winning to you? I'd hate to see a loss!

FB’s so called “fact checkers” have struck again, claiming that my report on the science that proves that wearing face masks, especially in non-medical settings does almost nothing to prevent the spread of a virus, is false… citing that it was based on old information. Now, I’m reporting on a new study created in conjunction with the World Health Organization and published by the CDC from less than 60 days ago that once again proves that there is no evidence that wearing face masks in public prevents the spread of flu-like viruses. I’m also going to show you why the Facebook fact-checking system cannot be trusted. Link to the CDC published study. This study was conducted in preparation for the development of guidelines by the World Health Organization on the use of non-pharmaceutical interventions for pandemic influenza in non-medical settings.

New CDC and WHO Study Proves "No Evidence" Face Masks Prevent Virus

FB's so called “fact checkers” have struck again, claiming that my report on the science that proves that wearing face masks, especially in non-medical

truthinmedia.com

In the interest of fairness, here is the entire relevant three paragraphs from the linked CDC study on the right wing website. And it don't say what this idiot is claiming it says.

"Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids (36). There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza".

"We did not consider the use of respirators in the community. Respirators are tight-fitting masks that can protect the wearer from fine particles (37) and should provide better protection against influenza virus exposures when properly worn because of higher filtration efficiency. However, respirators, such as N95 and P2 masks, work best when they are fit-tested, and these masks will be in limited supply during the next pandemic. These specialist devices should be reserved for use in healthcare settings or in special subpopulations such as immunocompromised persons in the community, first responders, and those performing other critical community functions, as supplies permit".

"In lower-income settings, it is more likely that reusable cloth masks will be used rather than disposable medical masks because of cost and availability (38). There are still few uncertainties in the practice of face mask use, such as who should wear the mask and how long it should be used for. In theory, transmission should be reduced the most if both infected members and other contacts wear masks, but compliance in uninfected close contacts could be a problem (12,34). Proper use of face masks is essential because improper use might increase the risk for transmission (39). Thus, education on the proper use and disposal of used face masks, including hand hygiene, is also needed".

 

[jc456]

Back to normal like nothing ever happened.

I hope we can get back to normal some day

But the shutdown crowd is killing the economy which may have more worse consequences than the chinese disease itself

they have been deceived and aren't interested in knowing the real truth due to their families. they are just going with the flow not to upset any applecarts. My family included. I keep telling them they're following the wolf and it will bite them. too bad, they don't believe humans could be that fking evil. I said they are. no matter the examples I keep giving them.

 

[bripat9643]

The states that opened back up quickly (or never completely shut down) with little or nothing in the way guidelines or restrictions are the ones experiencing the surge right now. They allowed bars and restaurants to be opened back up with people packed and crowded together again. Large gatherings of young people with no precautions taken. Back to normal like nothing ever happened. That's where the spikes came from. Garcetti said she said "some" spread came from protests. Which is only natural when you've got that many people gathered together in one place. But the lion share of the protesters were wearing masks.

Do you have any data to support this theory, or is it just your usual shooting-from-the-hip made up facts?

 

[WEATHER53]

With a mask, am I not breathing back in what I just exhausted? That does not seem good?

Not only that, if you use the same mask for any length of time, you're also breathing in any bacteria that has grown on the moisture your breath has left on it.

So to a degree am I or am I not breathing back in the start of the virus that Im trying to avoid ?

 

[jc456]

No state is normal either

closing bars may seem trivial but a lot of money changes hands that is important to the health of the economy

opening other businesses at 25 or 50% is just a form of slow death for many

No sports. That creates a huge hole in the economy and hurts low income workers the most

there is far more that I didnt name and much that I dont even know about

but it all adds up - or subtracts from the economy - over time

schools and their sports programs they've trained for years for. piss on these mther fkers and their fking hoax.

 

[jc456]

With a mask, am I not breathing back in what I just exhausted? That does not seem good?

why do you think the count went up. they're making themselves sick. we need oxygen to survive, not CO2.

 

[jc456]

With a mask, am I not breathing back in what I just exhausted? That does not seem good?

Not only that, if you use the same mask for any length of time, you're also breathing in any bacteria that has grown on the moisture your breath has left on it.

So to a degree am I or am I not breathing back in the start of the virus that Im trying to avoid ?

over and over and over, and these fks want it. they want you fking ill. they want to point and say see told you so. Well I'm pointing and saying counts are going up with masks, your experiment is a fking failure. fking PERIOD

 

[jc456]

The masks doctors wear are 0.1 micron masks and fits to close off air passage. Generic masks bleed around the open sides and only catch droplets from the wearers mouth and nose. they are less than 30% effective at stopping viral transmission.

don't tell blindboo, he's blind.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

The states that opened back up quickly (or never completely shut down) with little or nothing in the way guidelines or restrictions are the ones experiencing the surge right now. They allowed bars and restaurants to be opened back up with people packed and crowded together again. Large gatherings of young people with no precautions taken. Back to normal like nothing ever happened. That's where the spikes came from. Garcetti said she said "some" spread came from protests. Which is only natural when you've got that many people gathered together in one place. But the lion share of the protesters were wearing masks.

Do you have any data to support this theory, or is it just your usual shooting-from-the-hip made up facts?

There's lots of data to support that claim. And lots of people who thought the same thing. And lots of articles to find that say essentially the same thing. And it happened, not because of opening up. It happened because they opened back up with no guidelines or restrictions like wearing masks or social distancing. It was back to normal.

Some States Are Learning What Happens to COVID-19 Cases If You Reopen

More than 30 states are reporting an increase in confirmed COVID-19 cases. Experts say whether people follow guidelines such as physical distancing and face masks will determine if reopening is successful.

www.healthline.com

Memorial Day didn't help. This is just one of many articles. We still haven't gotten to the fallout from July 4th.

Austin Public Health Blames Reopenings, Memorial Day Socializing For Spike In COVID-19 Cases

The recent spike in new confirmed COVID-19 cases is not related to the string of protests against police brutality across the city in the last two weeks,…

www.kut.org

 

[Cecilie1200]

With a mask, am I not breathing back in what I just exhausted? That does not seem good?

Not only that, if you use the same mask for any length of time, you're also breathing in any bacteria that has grown on the moisture your breath has left on it.

So to a degree am I or am I not breathing back in the start of the virus that Im trying to avoid ?

Well, if you've already got it, I don't think you can catch it again from yourself. But the sort of bacteria that grows on masks is probably not something you want in your respiratory tract. That's why basic surgical masks are disposable. Doctors and nurses replace them with every patient. People on the street wear them for days on end.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Lockdowns only delayed the inevitable and necessary. We are going through, right now, what should have been done by May.
While positives rise post-openings and Marxist riots, the only real significant metric, deaths, is declining. We are on the way to herd immunity despite MSM panic propaganda.
The Wuhan death rate for under-70 is 0.04%.
For flu, the death rate is .1%.

 

[Billy_Bob]

With a mask, am I not breathing back in what I just exhausted? That does not seem good?

Not only that, if you use the same mask for any length of time, you're also breathing in any bacteria that has grown on the moisture your breath has left on it.

If you wear a mask and fail to clean it daily your subjecting yourself to sever bacterial infections of your upper respiratory tract. Paper masks are worse because fibers from them irritate the mucosal membranes and create bacterial pockets. Long term wearing of masks, unchanged, are very bad for upper respiratory infections.

 

[bripat9643]

The states that opened back up quickly (or never completely shut down) with little or nothing in the way guidelines or restrictions are the ones experiencing the surge right now. They allowed bars and restaurants to be opened back up with people packed and crowded together again. Large gatherings of young people with no precautions taken. Back to normal like nothing ever happened. That's where the spikes came from. Garcetti said she said "some" spread came from protests. Which is only natural when you've got that many people gathered together in one place. But the lion share of the protesters were wearing masks.

Do you have any data to support this theory, or is it just your usual shooting-from-the-hip made up facts?

There's lots of data to support that claim. And lots of people who thought the same thing. And lots of articles to find that say essentially the same thing. And it happened, not because of opening up. It happened because they opened back up with no guidelines or restrictions like wearing masks or social distancing. It was back to normal.

Some States Are Learning What Happens to COVID-19 Cases If You Reopen

More than 30 states are reporting an increase in confirmed COVID-19 cases. Experts say whether people follow guidelines such as physical distancing and face masks will determine if reopening is successful.

www.healthline.com

Memorial Day didn't help. This is just one of many articles. We still haven't gotten to the fallout from July 4th.

Austin Public Health Blames Reopenings, Memorial Day Socializing For Spike In COVID-19 Cases

The recent spike in new confirmed COVID-19 cases is not related to the string of protests against police brutality across the city in the last two weeks,…

www.kut.org

Your article didn't prove what you claim. It didn't show which states had increases and the changes they made that caused those increases. It didn't show that the states with big increases did anything different than states who had no increases. I live in Wisconsin, and a judge repealed all the shutdown policies over a month ago, yet there has been no dramatic increase in cases.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

The states that opened back up quickly (or never completely shut down) with little or nothing in the way guidelines or restrictions are the ones experiencing the surge right now. They allowed bars and restaurants to be opened back up with people packed and crowded together again. Large gatherings of young people with no precautions taken. Back to normal like nothing ever happened. That's where the spikes came from. Garcetti said she said "some" spread came from protests. Which is only natural when you've got that many people gathered together in one place. But the lion share of the protesters were wearing masks.

Do you have any data to support this theory, or is it just your usual shooting-from-the-hip made up facts?

There's lots of data to support that claim. And lots of people who thought the same thing. And lots of articles to find that say essentially the same thing. And it happened, not because of opening up. It happened because they opened back up with no guidelines or restrictions like wearing masks or social distancing. It was back to normal.

Some States Are Learning What Happens to COVID-19 Cases If You Reopen

More than 30 states are reporting an increase in confirmed COVID-19 cases. Experts say whether people follow guidelines such as physical distancing and face masks will determine if reopening is successful.

www.healthline.com

Memorial Day didn't help. This is just one of many articles. We still haven't gotten to the fallout from July 4th.

Austin Public Health Blames Reopenings, Memorial Day Socializing For Spike In COVID-19 Cases

The recent spike in new confirmed COVID-19 cases is not related to the string of protests against police brutality across the city in the last two weeks,…

www.kut.org

Your article didn't prove what you claim. It didn't show which states had increases and the changed they made that caused those increases. It didn't show that the states with big increases did anything different than states who had no increases. I live in Wisconsin, and a judge repealed all the shutdown policies over a month ago, yet there has been no dramatic increase in cases.

Again, that was only one article. There are dozens more like it. This information is easily obtainable.
Here's a graph for your state

By contrast, here is one for New York

 

[bripat9643]

The states that opened back up quickly (or never completely shut down) with little or nothing in the way guidelines or restrictions are the ones experiencing the surge right now. They allowed bars and restaurants to be opened back up with people packed and crowded together again. Large gatherings of young people with no precautions taken. Back to normal like nothing ever happened. That's where the spikes came from. Garcetti said she said "some" spread came from protests. Which is only natural when you've got that many people gathered together in one place. But the lion share of the protesters were wearing masks.

Do you have any data to support this theory, or is it just your usual shooting-from-the-hip made up facts?

There's lots of data to support that claim. And lots of people who thought the same thing. And lots of articles to find that say essentially the same thing. And it happened, not because of opening up. It happened because they opened back up with no guidelines or restrictions like wearing masks or social distancing. It was back to normal.

Some States Are Learning What Happens to COVID-19 Cases If You Reopen

More than 30 states are reporting an increase in confirmed COVID-19 cases. Experts say whether people follow guidelines such as physical distancing and face masks will determine if reopening is successful.

www.healthline.com

Memorial Day didn't help. This is just one of many articles. We still haven't gotten to the fallout from July 4th.

Austin Public Health Blames Reopenings, Memorial Day Socializing For Spike In COVID-19 Cases

The recent spike in new confirmed COVID-19 cases is not related to the string of protests against police brutality across the city in the last two weeks,…

www.kut.org

Your article didn't prove what you claim. It didn't show which states had increases and the changed they made that caused those increases. It didn't show that the states with big increases did anything different than states who had no increases. I live in Wisconsin, and a judge repealed all the shutdown policies over a month ago, yet there has been no dramatic increase in cases.

Again, that was only one article. There are dozens more like it. This information is easily obtainable.
Here's a graph for your state
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By contrast, here is one for New York
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Deaths in Wisconsin are down. More cases are being reported mainly because they have massively increased the amount of testing.

New York accounts for over a quarter of all COVID deaths in the country. They gained their herd immunity.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The states that opened back up quickly (or never completely shut down) with little or nothing in the way guidelines or restrictions are the ones experiencing the surge right now. They allowed bars and restaurants to be opened back up with people packed and crowded together again. Large gatherings of young people with no precautions taken. Back to normal like nothing ever happened. That's where the spikes came from. Garcetti said she said "some" spread came from protests. Which is only natural when you've got that many people gathered together in one place. But the lion share of the protesters were wearing masks.

Do you have any data to support this theory, or is it just your usual shooting-from-the-hip made up facts?

There's lots of data to support that claim. And lots of people who thought the same thing. And lots of articles to find that say essentially the same thing. And it happened, not because of opening up. It happened because they opened back up with no guidelines or restrictions like wearing masks or social distancing. It was back to normal.

Some States Are Learning What Happens to COVID-19 Cases If You Reopen

More than 30 states are reporting an increase in confirmed COVID-19 cases. Experts say whether people follow guidelines such as physical distancing and face masks will determine if reopening is successful.

www.healthline.com

Memorial Day didn't help. This is just one of many articles. We still haven't gotten to the fallout from July 4th.

Austin Public Health Blames Reopenings, Memorial Day Socializing For Spike In COVID-19 Cases

The recent spike in new confirmed COVID-19 cases is not related to the string of protests against police brutality across the city in the last two weeks,…

www.kut.org

Your article didn't prove what you claim. It didn't show which states had increases and the changed they made that caused those increases. It didn't show that the states with big increases did anything different than states who had no increases. I live in Wisconsin, and a judge repealed all the shutdown policies over a month ago, yet there has been no dramatic increase in cases.

Again, that was only one article. There are dozens more like it. This information is easily obtainable.
Here's a graph for your state
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By contrast, here is one for New York
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New York ran out of people to infect.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

The states that opened back up quickly (or never completely shut down) with little or nothing in the way guidelines or restrictions are the ones experiencing the surge right now. They allowed bars and restaurants to be opened back up with people packed and crowded together again. Large gatherings of young people with no precautions taken. Back to normal like nothing ever happened. That's where the spikes came from. Garcetti said she said "some" spread came from protests. Which is only natural when you've got that many people gathered together in one place. But the lion share of the protesters were wearing masks.

Do you have any data to support this theory, or is it just your usual shooting-from-the-hip made up facts?

There's lots of data to support that claim. And lots of people who thought the same thing. And lots of articles to find that say essentially the same thing. And it happened, not because of opening up. It happened because they opened back up with no guidelines or restrictions like wearing masks or social distancing. It was back to normal.

Some States Are Learning What Happens to COVID-19 Cases If You Reopen

More than 30 states are reporting an increase in confirmed COVID-19 cases. Experts say whether people follow guidelines such as physical distancing and face masks will determine if reopening is successful.

www.healthline.com

Memorial Day didn't help. This is just one of many articles. We still haven't gotten to the fallout from July 4th.

Austin Public Health Blames Reopenings, Memorial Day Socializing For Spike In COVID-19 Cases

The recent spike in new confirmed COVID-19 cases is not related to the string of protests against police brutality across the city in the last two weeks,…

www.kut.org

Your article didn't prove what you claim. It didn't show which states had increases and the changed they made that caused those increases. It didn't show that the states with big increases did anything different than states who had no increases. I live in Wisconsin, and a judge repealed all the shutdown policies over a month ago, yet there has been no dramatic increase in cases.

Again, that was only one article. There are dozens more like it. This information is easily obtainable.
Here's a graph for your state
View attachment 366447

By contrast, here is one for New York
View attachment 366448

Deaths in Wisconsin are down. More cases are being reported mainly because they have massively increased the amount of testing.

New York accounts for over a quarter of all COVID deaths in the country. They gained their herd immunity.

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Sorry. That whole there are more cases because there are more tests has already been debunked. There are more cases because people aren't observing guidelines like wearing masks, social distancing, and avoiding large crowds. And deaths are down because doctors are getting more efficient at treating the virus. That's to be expected. We'll see if it holds. I've found a couple of articles that imply that your state is behind on testing. Here's just one.

https://www.wpr.org/calls-more-coronavirus-testing-wisconsin-sees-significant-community-spread

 

[bripat9643]

The states that opened back up quickly (or never completely shut down) with little or nothing in the way guidelines or restrictions are the ones experiencing the surge right now. They allowed bars and restaurants to be opened back up with people packed and crowded together again. Large gatherings of young people with no precautions taken. Back to normal like nothing ever happened. That's where the spikes came from. Garcetti said she said "some" spread came from protests. Which is only natural when you've got that many people gathered together in one place. But the lion share of the protesters were wearing masks.

Do you have any data to support this theory, or is it just your usual shooting-from-the-hip made up facts?

There's lots of data to support that claim. And lots of people who thought the same thing. And lots of articles to find that say essentially the same thing. And it happened, not because of opening up. It happened because they opened back up with no guidelines or restrictions like wearing masks or social distancing. It was back to normal.

Some States Are Learning What Happens to COVID-19 Cases If You Reopen

More than 30 states are reporting an increase in confirmed COVID-19 cases. Experts say whether people follow guidelines such as physical distancing and face masks will determine if reopening is successful.

www.healthline.com

Memorial Day didn't help. This is just one of many articles. We still haven't gotten to the fallout from July 4th.

Austin Public Health Blames Reopenings, Memorial Day Socializing For Spike In COVID-19 Cases

The recent spike in new confirmed COVID-19 cases is not related to the string of protests against police brutality across the city in the last two weeks,…

www.kut.org

Your article didn't prove what you claim. It didn't show which states had increases and the changed they made that caused those increases. It didn't show that the states with big increases did anything different than states who had no increases. I live in Wisconsin, and a judge repealed all the shutdown policies over a month ago, yet there has been no dramatic increase in cases.

Again, that was only one article. There are dozens more like it. This information is easily obtainable.
Here's a graph for your state
View attachment 366447

By contrast, here is one for New York
View attachment 366448

Deaths in Wisconsin are down. More cases are being reported mainly because they have massively increased the amount of testing.

New York accounts for over a quarter of all COVID deaths in the country. They gained their herd immunity.

View attachment 366449

Sorry. That whole there are more cases because there are more tests has already been debunked. There are more cases because people aren't observing guidelines like wearing masks, social distancing, and avoiding large crowds. And deaths are down because doctors are getting more efficient at treating the virus. That's to be expected. We'll see if it holds. I've found a couple of articles that imply that your state is behind on testing. Here's just one.

https://www.wpr.org/calls-more-coronavirus-testing-wisconsin-sees-significant-community-spread

When was it debunked? Another reason for more cases is the George Floyd protests that Democrat politicians allowed.