al-Nakba by al-Jazeera

[amity1844]

Wow, very good film with loads of documentary footage. This may be the best I have seen on al-Nakba, and for that matter the best I have seen on Zionism!

By Al-Jazeera with lots of little-known tidbits:

Part 1:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm7dMhE80dw]Alnakba English P1 - YouTube[/ame]

Part 2:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYvimRnlTqE"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYvimRnlTqE[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Excellent documentaries.

Compiled from documents, news reports from the time, and historians from several different countries.

 

[fanger]

If it contains the truth, Zionists will shy from it as vampires shy from Garlic

 

[Sally]

If it contains the truth, Zionists will shy from it as vampires shy from Garlic

I believe you are talking about your fellow Muslims avoiding the truth.

 

[amity1844]

What a wit.

 

[Sally]

What a wit.

Let the viewers decide who is right.

 

[Indeependent]

If it contains the truth, Zionists will shy from it as vampires shy from Garlic

Based on your posting, YOU would seem to not know whether or not it contains the truth.
So far every video Amity has posted has contained revisionist history.

It's not even the anti-Zionist slant that bothers me, it's the fact that Amity actually thinks he/she is capable of doing any valid research at all.

 

[amity1844]

Oh, I am bountifully capable of doing original research alright.

but don't forget I didn't do the research for anything I am posting. It is all someone else's work. I just found it.

 

[Sally]

If it contains the truth, Zionists will shy from it as vampires shy from Garlic

Based on your posting, YOU would seem to not know whether or not it contains the truth.
So far every video Amity has posted has contained revisionist history.

It's not even the anti-Zionist slant that bothers me, it's the fact that Amity actually thinks he/she is capable of doing any valid research at all.

By now people have her number. She wants her friends to be allowed into Israel from all over the world so that they can take over the country. It is nothing more or nothing less.

 

[Indeependent]

Oh, I am bountifully capable of doing original research alright.

but don't forget I didn't do the research for anything I am posting. It is all someone else's work. I just found it.

You did NOT just find it, you are LOOKING for THIS TYPE of vile misinformation.
To someone like myself with 30+ years learning Tanach, and thus, the methods of deduction, induction and abstraction, the misinformation is like a bolt of lightning.

 

[Indeependent]

If it contains the truth, Zionists will shy from it as vampires shy from Garlic

Based on your posting, YOU would seem to not know whether or not it contains the truth.
So far every video Amity has posted has contained revisionist history.

It's not even the anti-Zionist slant that bothers me, it's the fact that Amity actually thinks he/she is capable of doing any valid research at all.

By now people have her number. She wants her friends to be allowed into Israel from all over the world so that they can take over the country. It is nothing more or nothing less.

On, come on!
I'm having fun knowing I'm far more analytical than a Cambridge University student.

 

[amity1844]

I'm glad the films I found are upsetting to you.

 

[P F Tinmore]

What a wit.

Let the viewers decide who is right.

I studied the Israel/Palestine conflict, as an independent observer, for 10 - 12 years before seeing these documentaries.

They appear to be accurate.

 

[Sally]

What a wit.

Let the viewers decide who is right.

I studied the Israel/Palestine conflict, as an independent observer, for 10 - 12 years before seeing these documentaries.

They appear to be accurate.

Your friends are still not going to be able to come back. And, Mr. Tinmore, I think that the majority of the viewers respect what Aris has to say and not you, even if you claim to have studied this for 50 years. Remember, don't start packing.

 

[amity1844]

Sally, you are so gullible. I told you before, I don't think Palestinians would want to convert to Judaism. They are quite happy with their modern identity.

if on the other hand they want to fill out 11 million applications for Aliyah, I'm with them! Call a press conference!

 

[Sally]

Sally, you are so gullible. I told you before, I don't think Palestinians would want to convert to Judaism. They are quite happy with their modern identity.

if on the other hand they want to fill out 11 million applications for Aliyah, I'm with them! Call a press conference!

Did I ever say that Palestinians wanted to convert to Judaism? I could care less what religion they follow. However, there are many Muslims who have dropped out of Islam and have become Christians or Atheists. More have said that they would also do so but they are afraid to be harassed or even murdered b y their friends and families for becoming apostate. They keep it quiet that they don't believe any more. By the way, there are Jewish women who had married Muslims and have escaped with theiir children because of the terrible mistreatment at the hands of their husbands, and their children are being raised as Jews. However, Amity, have patience and your beard will grow; and if you don't want to join those crazy Jews when they go to visit their equally crazy Ayatollah friends, you can always become a rabid Muslim preacher inciting your followers to KILL, KILL, KILL not only those considered the Infidels but those of the sect to which you don't belong. I can honestly see why the Ahmadiyya Muslims say they only feel safe here in America.

By the way, your friends will not be allowed to come to Israel to take it over for Islam. There are plenty of other Muslim countries in the Arab world so they don't have to be so greedy.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sally, you are so gullible. I told you before, I don't think Palestinians would want to convert to Judaism. They are quite happy with their modern identity.

if on the other hand they want to fill out 11 million applications for Aliyah, I'm with them! Call a press conference!

The right to return is anchored in four separate bodies of international law: nationality law, as applied upon state succession; humanitarian law; human rights law; and refugee law. The following section presents nationality regulations in successor states. States have domestic discretion in regulating their nationality status, but this is limited by several binding obligations under international law.42

There are three main rights-obligations with regard to nationality law that some may urge obtaining a customary status, thus binding upon all states:

First, the right to obtain the nationality of the successor state: according to international law on the succession of states,43 the habitual inhabitants, regardless of their physical presence, of the geographical territory coming under new sovereignty are offered nationality by the new state.44

Second, the right of return is an obligation owed by a state to all other states: states are required to readmit their own nationals as refusal to do so would imposes an obligation to receive or host, the rejected individual on another state (the rule of readmission).

Third, the prohibition against (mass) denationalisation prohibits a state from using revocation of nationality status (i.e. denationalisation) as a way to avoid its obligation to admit its own nationals (Boling 2001).

http://cadmus.eui.eu/bitstream/handle/1814/8162/CARIM RR-2007-07.pdf?sequence=1

This would mean, for example, that 80% of the people in Gaza are Israeli citizens.

 

[Sally]

Sally, you are so gullible. I told you before, I don't think Palestinians would want to convert to Judaism. They are quite happy with their modern identity.

if on the other hand they want to fill out 11 million applications for Aliyah, I'm with them! Call a press conference!

The right to return is anchored in four separate bodies of international law: nationality law, as applied upon state succession; humanitarian law; human rights law; and refugee law. The following section presents nationality regulations in successor states. States have domestic discretion in regulating their nationality status, but this is limited by several binding obligations under international law.42

There are three main rights-obligations with regard to nationality law that some may urge obtaining a customary status, thus binding upon all states:

First, the right to obtain the nationality of the successor state: according to international law on the succession of states,43 the habitual inhabitants, regardless of their physical presence, of the geographical territory coming under new sovereignty are offered nationality by the new state.44

Second, the right of return is an obligation owed by a state to all other states: states are required to readmit their own nationals as refusal to do so would imposes an obligation to receive or host, the rejected individual on another state (the rule of readmission).

Third, the prohibition against (mass) denationalisation prohibits a state from using revocation of nationality status (i.e. denationalisation) as a way to avoid its obligation to admit its own nationals (Boling 2001).

http://cadmus.eui.eu/bitstream/handle/1814/8162/CARIM RR-2007-07.pdf?sequence=1

This would mean, for example, that 80% of the people in Gaza are Israeli citizens.

Your friends are not going to be allowed to emigrate into Israel to take over. Keep withing upon a star. Mr. Tinmore, why not question the Egyptian official who told the Gazans to come back to Egypt where they belong. Perhaps he knows something of which you are not aware.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sally, you are so gullible. I told you before, I don't think Palestinians would want to convert to Judaism. They are quite happy with their modern identity.

if on the other hand they want to fill out 11 million applications for Aliyah, I'm with them! Call a press conference!

The right to return is anchored in four separate bodies of international law: nationality law, as applied upon state succession; humanitarian law; human rights law; and refugee law. The following section presents nationality regulations in successor states. States have domestic discretion in regulating their nationality status, but this is limited by several binding obligations under international law.42

There are three main rights-obligations with regard to nationality law that some may urge obtaining a customary status, thus binding upon all states:

First, the right to obtain the nationality of the successor state: according to international law on the succession of states,43 the habitual inhabitants, regardless of their physical presence, of the geographical territory coming under new sovereignty are offered nationality by the new state.44

Second, the right of return is an obligation owed by a state to all other states: states are required to readmit their own nationals as refusal to do so would imposes an obligation to receive or host, the rejected individual on another state (the rule of readmission).

Third, the prohibition against (mass) denationalisation prohibits a state from using revocation of nationality status (i.e. denationalisation) as a way to avoid its obligation to admit its own nationals (Boling 2001).

http://cadmus.eui.eu/bitstream/handle/1814/8162/CARIM RR-2007-07.pdf?sequence=1

This would mean, for example, that 80% of the people in Gaza are Israeli citizens.

Your friends are not going to be allowed to emigrate into Israel to take over. Keep withing upon a star. Mr. Tinmore, why not question the Egyptian official who told the Gazans to come back to Egypt where they belong. Perhaps he knows something of which you are not aware.

It would not be immigration. They are already citizens.

 

[Sally]

The right to return is anchored in four separate bodies of international law: nationality law, as applied upon state succession; humanitarian law; human rights law; and refugee law. The following section presents nationality regulations in successor states. States have domestic discretion in regulating their nationality status, but this is limited by several binding obligations under international law.42

There are three main rights-obligations with regard to nationality law that some may urge obtaining a customary status, thus binding upon all states:

First, the right to obtain the nationality of the successor state: according to international law on the succession of states,43 the habitual inhabitants, regardless of their physical presence, of the geographical territory coming under new sovereignty are offered nationality by the new state.44

Second, the right of return is an obligation owed by a state to all other states: states are required to readmit their own nationals as refusal to do so would imposes an obligation to receive or host, the rejected individual on another state (the rule of readmission).

Third, the prohibition against (mass) denationalisation prohibits a state from using revocation of nationality status (i.e. denationalisation) as a way to avoid its obligation to admit its own nationals (Boling 2001).

http://cadmus.eui.eu/bitstream/handle/1814/8162/CARIM RR-2007-07.pdf?sequence=1

This would mean, for example, that 80% of the people in Gaza are Israeli citizens.

Your friends are not going to be allowed to emigrate into Israel to take over. Keep withing upon a star. Mr. Tinmore, why not question the Egyptian official who told the Gazans to come back to Egypt where they belong. Perhaps he knows something of which you are not aware.

It would not be immigration. They are already citizens.

Says you, but the Israeli authorities say they are not, and they are the ones who have the say-so. By the way, Mr. Tinmore, do you think that the millions and millions of displaced people after World War II should have started whining about going back to their own countries in which their ancestors lived thousands of years or do you think they were smart to get on with their lives?