AIPAC: We Control America."

[pbel]

Address the OP, Pbel. At least try. Thanks.

Sane discussion requires proof of a point...your god is not around to bear witness on your insane remarks...

 

[50_RiaL]

Former Israel Prime Minister Sharon who reportedly coined the phrase in the OP knew what he was talking about: The silent cancer that pervades American Politics which have been bought by the campaign contributions of AIPAC and its many unnoticed affiliates in our body politic even against US Interests of peace in the Middle East...

We get what they pay for.


Inside AIPAC s Quiet Campaign To Blur Israeli Settlement Lines
WASHINGTON -- When the Senate passed a high-profile piece of trade legislation last Friday, lawmakers simultaneously approved a little-noticed amendment described by its authors as “pro-Israel.” In doing so, the Senate moved to protect Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories from international sanction -- directly contradicting what has been U.S. policy in the region since 1967.

The amendment, which was added to both the House and the Senate versions of a trade promotion bill, would require the U.S. Trade Representative, or USTR, to discourage European Union member countries from boycotting “Israel or persons doing business in Israel or Israeli-controlled territories” during ongoing free-trade negotiations between the U.S. and the EU.

The passage of this language out of the Senate is a major victory for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the pro-Israel lobbying group that played an advisory role in drafting the language and pushed for its unmodified passage.

The amendments are based on a stand-alone bill authored by Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), the ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Cardin first unveiled his legislation at AIPAC’s annual policy conference in March before a cheering crowd of nearly 15,000.

From there, Cardin made no noticeable effort to gather co-sponsors or publicize the legislation. Rather, he, along with Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), offered the legislation as an add-on to the trade bill, where the subtle difference between opposing boycotts of businesses in “Israel” and in “territories controlled by Israel” went unnoticed by lawmakers.

June 20, 2002 by Tamar Sternthal

False Zionist Quote: Sharon Quote is Fabricated

The following is an example of statements misquoted, taken out of context or otherwise manipulated to present a distorted view of Zionist intentions and actions. The misquotes are found in op-eds in campus newspapers and mainstream press as well as on anti-Israel websites.

MISQUOTE:

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as quoted in an op-ed by nationally syndicated columnist Georgie Anne Geyer, allegedly said at an Israeli Cabinet meeting in autumn, 2001 and reported by Kol Yisrael radio:

“Don't worry about American pressure, we control America.”

“Don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.”

FACT:

These quotes originated with the pro-Hamas American group Islamic Association for Palestine in an Oct. 13, 2001 press release, which claimed its source as Israeli radio Kol Yisrael:

According [to] the Israeli Hebrew radio, Col Yisrael Wednesday, Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and turn the US against us. At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying “ . . . I want to tell you something clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.”…

Elsewhere in the press release, the quote was repeated, albeit slightly altered to: “we control America.”

CAMERA received confirmation from Kol Yisrael political correspondent Yoni Ben-Menachem, who reports on Cabinet meetings, that he never made such a broadcast and that Sharon never made such a statement.

For more on the misquote by Georgie Anne Geyer, read CAMERA's “Syndicated Columnist Georgie Anne Geyer Uses Fabricated Sharon Quote.” The misquote also appears on many anti-Israel and hate sites.


May 20, 2002 by Tamar Sternthal

Syndicated Columnist Georgie Anne Geyer Uses Fabricated Sharon Quote

In a May 10, 2002 column (“Now Isn’t the Time for Bush League Moves”), nationally-syndicated columnist Georgie Anne Geyer included bogus and inflammatory allegations against Prime Minister Sharon and Israel’s supporters in America.

First, she wrote:

In fact, it [American support for Israel’s actions] led Prime Minister Sharon to tell his Cabinet recently, “I control America.”

CAMERA conducted extensive Nexis and Internet searches, and found that no mainstream news organization reported as true the fabricated quotation.

The hoax originated with an October 3, 2001 press release from the pro-Hamas group, the Islamic Association for Palestine. It said:

An acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres during which Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying “don’t worry about American pressure, we control America.”

Notably, in the same press release, the direct quotation “we control America” changed to “we the Jewish people control America.”

IAP wrote:

According [to] the Israeli Hebrew radio, Col [sic] Yisrael Wednesday, Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and turn the US against us. At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying “...I want to tell you something clear, don’t worry about American pressure on Israel, we the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.”

According to the IAP press release, the statement was reported on Kol Yisrael. However, CAMERA’s calls to Kol Yisrael confirmed that no such broadcast occurred.

Geyer’s second problematic claim was:

Look at U.S. television: One minute, you see pro-Israeli ads saying the Arabs are all dogs...

However, here too investigation turned up no evidence that any such ad ever appeared on U.S. television.

Since the Sharon “quotation” and the “Arabs are dogs" ad are preposterous on their face, one would have expected Geyer (and editors who publish her column) to verify their accuracy before including such inflammatory statements in her column.

Geyer’s piece, which is syndicated by Universal Press Syndicate, is known to have appeared in the Chicago Tribune and the San Diego Union Tribune.

UPDATE (June 15, 2002): Geyer Expresses "Regrets"

CAMERA notified Geyer’s editors that the Sharon “quote” originated on a pro-Hamas website (the Islamic Association for Palestine), and that it had not been corroborated by any reputable media organization. CAMERA also pointed out that IAP’s alleged source, a report on Israel radio, is apparently fictional – Kol Yisrael denied to CAMERA that it had ever broadcast any such report.

When CAMERA requested substantiation from Geyer, the columnist first asserted that she was abroad and would have to check her notes when she got back home in June. After CAMERA contacted editor Bruce Dold of the Chicago Tribune (which ran the Geyer column), he replied:

Ms. Geyer does indeed cite the same sources you note [an Islamic Association for Palestine press release that claimed Kol Yisrael radio reported the Sharon statement] on the Sharon quote. If you have a statement or confirmation from Kol Yisrael, I’d like to see it. As for the second point [concerning the alleged television ads], that is not a direct quote from an ad, but Geyer’s own interpretation of the nature of the content.

Informed that the Kol Yisrael reporter assigned to cover the Israeli Cabinet [where the Sharon statement was alleged to have been made] denied Sharon had made the attributed comment, Dold responded with a different story from Geyer. She now claimed that her sources were two anonymous Israelis.

Finally, Geyer’s syndicate disseminated the following Editor’s Note which appeared on June 14 in the Chicago Tribune and Sarasota Herald Tribune and will likely be published by other papers that ran Geyer’s May 10 column.

Editor’s note: Georgie Anne Geyer’s May 10 column included a quote from Ariel Sharon, 'I control America.’ This quote was widely reported in the Palestinian press but cannot be confirmed in independent sources. Geyer and Universal Press Syndicate regret not having attributed the quote more specifically.

While the syndicate thus admitted that “This quote...cannot be confirmed in independent sources,” it failed to state unambiguously that Sharon never uttered the words and that the alleged quotation first appeared in a press release from the pro-Hamas IAP. Since IAP said that Kol Yisrael was their source and Kol Yisrael denies broadcasting any such report, there should be no question that IAP was attempting to perpetrate a hoax. The syndicate also should have written “alleged quote” whenever referring to the supposed statement by Sharon.

Furthermore, the Editor’s Note implies that the problem was one merely of mistaken attribution – that it would have been acceptable for Geyer to use the bogus quotation had she cited “Palestinian sources.” Obviously, since these sources have been proven false, the quote should not have been published at all.

Additionally, the Editor’s Note fails entirely to address the other baseless assertion in Geyer’s May 10 column, her outrageous statement: “Look at U.S. television: One minute, you see pro-Israeli ads saying the Arabs are all dogs...”

Repeated CAMERA requests for Geyer to identify the specific ad that led to her “interpretation” have gone unanswered. Clearly there is no way that her readers could have understood that she was “interpreting” rather than paraphrasing or quoting from a supposed ad. Since it is extremely unlikely that any “U.S. television” station would have broadcast any such ad, Geyer and her syndicate owe her readers another “Editor’s Note” or apology.


Copyright © 2002 by the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America. All rights reserved. This column may be reprinted without prior permission

 

[Humanity]

As long as we Americans have AIPAC, our economic and political interests will be subordinated to Israel's. God Damn AIPAC.

Just look at the real facts for a change fred and you will see that Saudi comes out top for manipulating the US politicians. Followed by Pakistan and the NRA

 

[SAYIT]

Former Israel Prime Minister Sharon who reportedly coined the phrase in the OP knew what he was talking about....

Sane discussion requires proof of a point...

Except, as often noted, the source of your alleged Sharon quote is something called the Information Association of Palestine which, conveniently enough offered nothing to substantiate their claim (not that people like you require proof of such claims).
As long as it serves your rabid Jew-hate, it's all good.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Well said, Sayit. Your response ended up covered up in the quote but I read it and you're right.

 

[SAYIT]

Well said, Sayit. Your response ended up covered up in the quote but I read it and you're right.

I fixed it. Ironically PBrain declared that "Sane discussion requires proof of a point..." while pointedly failing to prove his point. The anti-Israel/anti-Joooo cabal has long been populated by the dimmest people on the planet.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Well said, Sayit. Your response ended up covered up in the quote but I read it and you're right.

I fixed it. Ironically PBrain declared that "Sane discussion requires proof of a point..." while pointedly failing to prove his point. The anti-Israel/anti-Joooo cabal has long been populated by the dimmest people on the planet.

I've yet to see them prove anything other than that they have no point.

 

[SAYIT]

Well said, Sayit. Your response ended up covered up in the quote but I read it and you're right.

I fixed it. Ironically PBrain declared that "Sane discussion requires proof of a point..." while pointedly failing to prove his point. The anti-Israel/anti-Joooo cabal has long been populated by the dimmest people on the planet.

I've yet to see them prove anything other than that they have no point.

Your assessment is not entirely accurate. They do have pointed moments:

 

[aris2chat]

Former Israel Prime Minister Sharon who reportedly coined the phrase in the OP knew what he was talking about: The silent cancer that pervades American Politics which have been bought by the campaign contributions of AIPAC and its many unnoticed affiliates in our body politic even against US Interests of peace in the Middle East...

We get what they pay for.


Inside AIPAC s Quiet Campaign To Blur Israeli Settlement Lines
WASHINGTON -- When the Senate passed a high-profile piece of trade legislation last Friday, lawmakers simultaneously approved a little-noticed amendment described by its authors as “pro-Israel.” In doing so, the Senate moved to protect Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories from international sanction -- directly contradicting what has been U.S. policy in the region since 1967.

The amendment, which was added to both the House and the Senate versions of a trade promotion bill, would require the U.S. Trade Representative, or USTR, to discourage European Union member countries from boycotting “Israel or persons doing business in Israel or Israeli-controlled territories” during ongoing free-trade negotiations between the U.S. and the EU.

The passage of this language out of the Senate is a major victory for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the pro-Israel lobbying group that played an advisory role in drafting the language and pushed for its unmodified passage.

The amendments are based on a stand-alone bill authored by Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), the ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Cardin first unveiled his legislation at AIPAC’s annual policy conference in March before a cheering crowd of nearly 15,000.

From there, Cardin made no noticeable effort to gather co-sponsors or publicize the legislation. Rather, he, along with Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), offered the legislation as an add-on to the trade bill, where the subtle difference between opposing boycotts of businesses in “Israel” and in “territories controlled by Israel” went unnoticed by lawmakers.

you are misquoting a radio show. More issuance from the palestinians
Islamic Association for Palestine
For 13 yrs people are still posting the quote and getting nowhere fast?

CAMERA False Zionist Quote Sharon Quote is Fabricated
Talk Ariel Sharon - Wikiquote

 

[pbel]

Adelson perverts American democracy and freedom by subverting Congress with Campaign contributions that are in essence political bribes for a foreign country...

Wake Up America!

U.S. Billionaires Adelson Saban Vow to Fight Boycotts of Israel - Bloomberg Business
Las Vegas
Saban made his comments at a Las Vegas gathering of business executives and pro-Israel activists organized by Adelson, founder of Las Vegas Sands Corp., the world’s largest casino company. Adelson told Channel 2 that he and Saban had put aside their domestic political differences -- Adelson is a major donor to the Republican party, Saban to Democratic candidates -- to work together against the BDS movement and growing anti-Israel sentiment on U.S. college campuses.

“That he’s a Democrat and I’m a Republican has really very little to do with it,” said Adelson, who holds the 25th slot on Bloomberg’s Billionaire’s Index. “We can use our influence, to the extent that both of us have any, with anybody that we know in the administration and congress for the betterment of the relations between the U.S. and Israel.”

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Phoenall montelatici If you two don't knock it off I'm kicking both of you out of this thread

 

[montelatici]

Understood.