Zone1 Agnostics: Are you seekers of or indifferent to God?

I would say the Vatican is the head of the genesis snake Meri

not all under it's dominion will admit following in lockstep

but then , we're delving into the whole Christian nation debate

or not.......

~S~
Tell me precisely who in the Vatican you have a beef with, and what that particular person did to set you off. Tell me why no one else in the Vatican has taken your side.
 
I've yet to see anyone do evil for the sake of evil. No one is all good or all bad. I don't believe you are seeing the full picture.
What about those who torture, are they doing evil for the sake of evil? If not, why are they doing evil?
 
What about those who torture, are they doing evil for the sake of evil? If not, why are they doing evil?
I don't believe so. They are doing it for their own good, their own pleasure.
 
I don't believe so. They are doing it for their own good, their own pleasure.
I think in some cases you are absolutely right. We learned from the Stanford Prison Experiments back in the 70s just how wicked humans can be.

In the case of Abu Ghraib and others during the Bush years, the instructions to torture came from higher levels. I guess some did it happily while others participated to keep a job.
 
Beer lahai roi......"the God who sees me"

God cannot look upon sin. You need God for when you die....because either you create your eternity or God (good and perfect) creates yours.

You need God to see you....God does not need you or necessarily wants to see you.
 
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I think in some cases you are absolutely right. We learned from the Stanford Prison Experiments back in the 70s just how wicked humans can be.

In the case of Abu Ghraib and others during the Bush years, the instructions to torture came from higher levels. I guess some did it happily while others participated to keep a job.
Either way, I don't believe people do evil for the sake of evil. Even Genghis Kahn had a family he loved (I assume lol).
 
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