Afghans Vow Vengeance...

the right in this country screams for international intanglements and then refuses to finish them.

they then blame EVEYONE but them selves for their messes
 
That's what happens when you send soldiers on extended deployments with no clear cut objectives.

Anyone remember the My Lai massacre?

or when you take social misfits/rejects and give them lifetime benefits for joining the military. creating socialist paramilitary dependency, which is unAmerican!

fuck the standing army! The Founding Fathers warned against standing armies
 
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The beginning of the end.

Yeah, definitely. They're already working on a deal that will hand half the country over to the Taliban anyway. The big sell-out has been well underway for awhile. And this awful debacle only seals the deal. Not one more Soldier should die over there. They would be dying for nothing.

hmm, giving control of Afghanistan back to Afghanistan people?

:rofl:
what a sell out!!!

Cool with me. Let them have their Taliban. If that's what they want, so be it. However, there will be Blowback on us helping hand it over to them. That will not end well for us.
 
I would say 'The Longest War' is now over. This is bad. Real bad.


Afghans vow vengeance
for soldier's killing spree.


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Afghans vow vengeance for soldier's killing spree - Asia - World - The Independent
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

The Taliban vows revenge is how even FOX News puts it.

Drudge? :cuckoo:

The superhuan muslim complex gotcha?

and in case it's been lost on you, the US and Nato are at war with The Taliban already. So where's the beef?

You're not too bright are ya? Afghans are vowing vengeance. It's not just the Taliban who are.
 
we should have gone in and finished the job instead of diverting to Iraq.

Thank the right for this mess
 
the right in this country screams for international intanglements and then refuses to finish them.

they then blame EVEYONE but them selves for their messes

I'm the right, and i'm not screaming for international entanglements. And btw, your own Left/Democrats fully supported the Afghan War. But don't take my word for it. Go research that and find out for yourself. Have fun.
 
Yeah, definitely. They're already working on a deal that will hand half the country over to the Taliban anyway. The big sell-out has been well underway for awhile. And this awful debacle only seals the deal. Not one more Soldier should die over there. They would be dying for nothing.

hmm, giving control of Afghanistan back to Afghanistan people?

:rofl:
what a sell out!!!

Cool with me. Let them have their Taliban. If that's what they want, so be it. However, there will be Blowback on us helping hand it over to them. That will not end well for us.

blowback?

you read too many cheap political thriller novels?

unintended consequences go with the territory as does payment do for deals with devils.
 
I would say 'The Longest War' is now over. This is bad. Real bad.


Afghans vow vengeance
for soldier's killing spree.


Read More:
Afghans vow vengeance for soldier's killing spree - Asia - World - The Independent
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

The Taliban vows revenge is how even FOX News puts it.

Drudge? :cuckoo:

The superhuan muslim complex gotcha?

and in case it's been lost on you, the US and Nato are at war with The Taliban already. So where's the beef?

You're not too bright are ya? Afghans are vowing vengeance. It's not just the Taliban who are.

who gives a fuck. we are at war with them we are unintentionally killing civilians while saying we are there to protect them.

they are at war with us, stupid, because we are in THEIR country
 
I recall many saying that there was no way that Afghanistan/Iraq could become another Vietnam.

Any war will be "another Vietnam" as long as it is fought like Vietnam.
Bush SR did an outstanding job in Desert Storm. There was a clear goal, an exit plan and it was executed flawlessly. We destroyed the Iraqi army and then we got the hell out when we were finished.
This whole "build bases and occupy" method of fighting a war is absolute fantasy.
We have lost credibility as a nation and even worse fear of our military.
They don't fear us. And THAT is bad.
 
I recall many saying that there was no way that Afghanistan/Iraq could become another Vietnam.

They didn't. They became another Lebanon: 1983 Beirut barracks bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Under Reagan Military Orders: The Marine sentries at the gate were operating under rules of engagement which made it very difficult to respond quickly to the truck. Sentries were ordered to keep their weapons at condition four (no magazine inserted and no rounds in the chamber). By the time the two sentries were able to engage, the truck was already inside the building's entry way.

U.S. President Ronald Reagan called the attack a "despicable act"[17] and pledged to keep a military force in Lebanon.

There was no serious retaliation for the Beirut bombing from the Americans,[21] besides a few shellings.
 
I recall many saying that there was no way that Afghanistan/Iraq could become another Vietnam.

They didn't. They became another Lebanon: 1983 Beirut barracks bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Under Reagan Military Orders: The Marine sentries at the gate were operating under rules of engagement which made it very difficult to respond quickly to the truck. Sentries were ordered to keep their weapons at condition four (no magazine inserted and no rounds in the chamber). By the time the two sentries were able to engage, the truck was already inside the building's entry way.

U.S. President Ronald Reagan called the attack a "despicable act"[17] and pledged to keep a military force in Lebanon.

There was no serious retaliation for the Beirut bombing from the Americans,[21] besides a few shellings.
Another Beirut then; horror with no response than to leave.
 
I recall many saying that there was no way that Afghanistan/Iraq could become another Vietnam.

They didn't. They became another Lebanon: 1983 Beirut barracks bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Under Reagan Military Orders: The Marine sentries at the gate were operating under rules of engagement which made it very difficult to respond quickly to the truck. Sentries were ordered to keep their weapons at condition four (no magazine inserted and no rounds in the chamber). By the time the two sentries were able to engage, the truck was already inside the building's entry way.

U.S. President Ronald Reagan called the attack a "despicable act"[17] and pledged to keep a military force in Lebanon.

There was no serious retaliation for the Beirut bombing from the Americans,[21] besides a few shellings.

:laugh: Still blaming Reagan for everything ay? :cuckoo:
 
This guy should have never deployed to Afghanistan.

Soldier Held in Afghan Massacre Had Brain Injury, Marital Problems

The Army staff sergeant who allegedly went on a rampage and killed 16 Afghans as they slept in their homes had a traumatic brain injury at one point and had problems at home after his last deployment, officials told ABC News.

But the soldier, who is based at Fort Lewis in Washington, was considered fit for combat duty and deployed to Afghanistan in December, officials said.

Details about the staff sergeant, who has not been identified, emerged as the Taliban vowed revenge against "sick-minded American savages" after the mass killing.

What has trickled about the suspect is that he was 38, on his fourth combat deployment in 10 years, the first three in Iraq. He was on his first tour in Afghanistan, where he'd been since December.

When the massacre took place he was assigned to Camp Belambay, a remote combat outpost where his job was to be protection for Special Operations Forces who were creating local militias. He was not a member of the special forces unit.

An official told ABC News that the soldier has suffered a mild traumatic brain injury (TBI) in the past, either from hitting his head on the hatch of a vehicle or in a car accident. He went through the advanced TBI treatment at Fort Lewis and was deemed to be fine.

He also underwent mental health screening necessary to become a sniper and passed in 2008. He had routine behavioral health screening after that and was cleared, the official said.

When the soldier returned from his last deployment in Iraq he had difficulty reintegrating, including marital problems, the source told ABC News, . But officials concluded that he had worked through those issues before deploying to Afghanistan.

The shooting occurred at 3 a.m. in three houses in two villages in the Panjway district of southern Kandahar province, an area that was once a Taliban safe haven but has recently become more safe after a surge of troops in 2009.

The soldier left the base in the middle of the night and wore night-vision goggles during the alleged rampage, according to a source.

The first village was more than a mile south of the base. While there, he allegedly killed four people in the first house. In the second house, he allegedly killed 11 family members -- four girls, four boys and three adults.

He then walked back to another village past his base where he allegedly killed one more person, according to a member of the Afghan investigation team and ABC News' interviews with villagers.

All of the victims were shot in their homes, according to villagers and the Afghan president's office.

Video from the scene show blood-splattered floors and walls inside a villagers home and blood-soaked bodies of victims, including the elderly and young children, wrapped in blankets and placed in the backseat of a van. Some of the bodies appear to have been burned.

Soldier Held in Afghan Massacre Had Brain Injury, Marital Problems - Yahoo!
 
This guy should have never deployed to Afghanistan

You are 100% correct.

He's far from the only one, I have seen some of this myself, I deployed with some people to Kuwait that had no business getting on the air craft to deploy. We are in unchartered territory with all the mental damage we are doing to our troops with these multiple deployments.
 
You are 100% correct.

He's far from the only one, I have seen some of this myself, I deployed with some people to Kuwait that had no business getting on the air craft to deploy. We are in unchartered territory with all the mental damage we are doing to our troops with these multiple deployments.
Solution?

Our mistake was invading Iraq when we were still involved in Afghanistan, the truth is we never had enough Troops for either country, if we are going to keep a high deployment volume like this we need more Troops, or we just need to get the fuck out.
 
He's far from the only one, I have seen some of this myself, I deployed with some people to Kuwait that had no business getting on the air craft to deploy. We are in unchartered territory with all the mental damage we are doing to our troops with these multiple deployments.
Solution?

Our mistake was invading Iraq when we were still involved in Afghanistan, the truth is we never had enough Troops for either country, if we are going to keep a high deployment volume like this we need more Troops, or we just need to get the fuck out.

And as it is right now...the military is trying to cut back on people. I spent last week in NC at my sons, he's at Ft Bragg. He said they've put a NO TOLERANCE law into effect that will end up eliminating quite a few people, most likely.

There's NO tolerance for getting caught driving when you're drunk OR impaired. Get caught, you're gone.
There's also NO tolerance for marital disputes (spousal abuse). No more counseling and whatever to help them...they're just gone.
These are only 2, but he said theirs more. This is an easy way to eliminate people that have any kind of problem. Problems that probably mostly came from spending so much time at war and the mental problems that come along with it. Send the soldiers home and just forget about them!
 

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