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Stop sending aid to shithole countries and let the rats die
What does that have to do with the idea that technology is replacing workers at all levels?
The only reason overpopulation is a problem is due to foreign aid. It's certainly not happening in civilized countries.
It is not necessarily about OVERpopulation. It is about the population not having enough jobs for the number of workers.
While the US may not be overpopulated, our population continues to grow. And the availability of good jobs is going down.
In 2004 the US population was 304 million
In 2006 the US population was 310 million.
In 2012 The US population was 315 million
In 2014 the US population was 319 million.
In 2016 the US population was 324 million.
The WHITE population is in decline. Because whites know better than to bring children into this clown world we're living in. We're importing a bunch of jerks from south of the border and other 3rd world shitholes who breed like rabbits.
/----/For crying out loud, I don't know what you're arguing about. Nothing will stop technology so we have to adapt. Geeeeze./----/ Welders??? Did you not see the link I posted on #7 that specifically mentions welders? When I grew up there was a shortage of Teachers and a surplus of welders/——/ Do you know why so many species have died out? They couldn’t adapt. I grew up in a small safe, clean southern town. Think of Opie on Andy of Mayberry. When I graduated from HS, there were no careers unless you were a professional, so I moved to where the jobs were. I found plenty of high paying jobs and acquired the skills and degree to make a great living./----/ People need to learn to adapt. Minimum wage jobs were never intended to be permanent careers.
Labor shortage in the United States becoming an increasingly dire issue | GRI
Help wanted: more skilled workers
Skilled workers fall into two categories:
The problem is that most companies are needing workers with middle skills that include technical knowledge and a better-than-average understanding of the tools and machines they will operate while also involving a high degree of problem-solving skills. According to a survey of small business owners by U.S. Bank, 61 percent said they were experiencing extreme to moderate difficulty in finding quality skilled workers in order to expand their businesses. The Federal Reserve Bank reported that labor shortages in combination with the need to pay higher wages are “restraining growth” in industries such as manufacturing, transportation, and construction.
- highly skilled such as engineers, scientists, and technicians who carry degrees and advanced degrees in their chosen fields
- workers with “middle skills” requiring more experience than just a high school diploma yet less than a four-year college degree such as welders, electricians, or machinists
It is not just the minimum wage jobs that will be lost. And I pointed out in the OP, 5.6 million manufacturing jobs were lost between 2000 and 2010. Of those jobs lost, 85% were lost to technology. That means 4,760,000 jobs were replaced by technology. Those were, for the most part, the good paying jobs that created our large middle class.
I have no doubt you did. But the point is, those jobs are disappearing as technology replaces human workers. Having acquired the skills does not help if the job does not exist. An example? Welders. Welders made decent money. It was a skill. Now machines do it for the equivalent of $8 an hour. Which do you think the business owner will prefer?
( leftover vets from WWII) Now there is a surplus of teachers and a shortage of welders.
Help wanted: more skilled workers
Skilled workers fall into two categories:
- highly skilled such as engineers, scientists, and technicians who carry degrees and advanced degrees in their chosen fields
- workers with “middle skills” requiring more experience than just a high school diploma yet less than a four-year college degree such as welders, electricians, or machinists
And how many jobs, in country with a population of over 320 million, are immune from being replaced by technology and pay enough to be a career?
/----/For crying out loud, I don't know what you're arguing about. Nothing will stop technology so we have to adapt. Geeeeze./----/ Welders??? Did you not see the link I posted on #7 that specifically mentions welders? When I grew up there was a shortage of Teachers and a surplus of welders/——/ Do you know why so many species have died out? They couldn’t adapt. I grew up in a small safe, clean southern town. Think of Opie on Andy of Mayberry. When I graduated from HS, there were no careers unless you were a professional, so I moved to where the jobs were. I found plenty of high paying jobs and acquired the skills and degree to make a great living.It is not just the minimum wage jobs that will be lost. And I pointed out in the OP, 5.6 million manufacturing jobs were lost between 2000 and 2010. Of those jobs lost, 85% were lost to technology. That means 4,760,000 jobs were replaced by technology. Those were, for the most part, the good paying jobs that created our large middle class.
I have no doubt you did. But the point is, those jobs are disappearing as technology replaces human workers. Having acquired the skills does not help if the job does not exist. An example? Welders. Welders made decent money. It was a skill. Now machines do it for the equivalent of $8 an hour. Which do you think the business owner will prefer?
( leftover vets from WWII) Now there is a surplus of teachers and a shortage of welders.
Help wanted: more skilled workers
Skilled workers fall into two categories:
- highly skilled such as engineers, scientists, and technicians who carry degrees and advanced degrees in their chosen fields
- workers with “middle skills” requiring more experience than just a high school diploma yet less than a four-year college degree such as welders, electricians, or machinists
And how many jobs, in country with a population of over 320 million, are immune from being replaced by technology and pay enough to be a career?
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/----/ No one is arguing that point except you. My career in advertising, producing camera ready art, was replaced by a computer and minimum wage clerk. However, advertising copywriting is still a skill that hasn't been replaced by technology. Although the typewriter was replaced by a word processor and the typewriter repairman had to learn to repair computers./----/For crying out loud, I don't know what you're arguing about. Nothing will stop technology so we have to adapt. Geeeeze./----/ Welders??? Did you not see the link I posted on #7 that specifically mentions welders? When I grew up there was a shortage of Teachers and a surplus of welders/——/ Do you know why so many species have died out? They couldn’t adapt. I grew up in a small safe, clean southern town. Think of Opie on Andy of Mayberry. When I graduated from HS, there were no careers unless you were a professional, so I moved to where the jobs were. I found plenty of high paying jobs and acquired the skills and degree to make a great living.
I have no doubt you did. But the point is, those jobs are disappearing as technology replaces human workers. Having acquired the skills does not help if the job does not exist. An example? Welders. Welders made decent money. It was a skill. Now machines do it for the equivalent of $8 an hour. Which do you think the business owner will prefer?
( leftover vets from WWII) Now there is a surplus of teachers and a shortage of welders.
Help wanted: more skilled workers
Skilled workers fall into two categories:
- highly skilled such as engineers, scientists, and technicians who carry degrees and advanced degrees in their chosen fields
- workers with “middle skills” requiring more experience than just a high school diploma yet less than a four-year college degree such as welders, electricians, or machinists
And how many jobs, in country with a population of over 320 million, are immune from being replaced by technology and pay enough to be a career?
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I am arguing that the advancing technology is adapting too. Job in fields that were once immune to better technology will be lost to better and better technology. If you had told truck drivers in the 70s and 80s that technology would one day replace them, they would have laughed.
Stop sending aid to shithole countries and let the rats die
What does that have to do with the idea that technology is replacing workers at all levels?
The only reason overpopulation is a problem is due to foreign aid. It's certainly not happening in civilized countries.
It is not necessarily about OVERpopulation. It is about the population not having enough jobs for the number of workers.
While the US may not be overpopulated, our population continues to grow. And the availability of good jobs is going down.
In 2004 the US population was 304 million
In 2006 the US population was 310 million.
In 2012 The US population was 315 million
In 2014 the US population was 319 million.
In 2016 the US population was 324 million.
While the US may not be overpopulated, our population continues to grow. And the availability of good jobs is going down.
OK, tell me now, how are you going to handle the people that are out of work? Let them starve? And it is not the immigrants, legal or illegal, that you will be letting starve. It will be people like the coal miners that thought they had a secure job. There are already a major number of them out of work, dependent on welfare to survive. They are almost all white and US citizens. Right now, in that area, a major cause of death for middle aged whites is suicide or drug overdose. Maybe you plan to provide the with free drugs? For a quick solution to there problems.It won't be technology that brings us to Socialism, it will be the nearly 50% of households who pay no income taxes and depend on taxpayers to support them.
Democrats are bent on bringing in more and more people with no skills so they benefit from the system and vote for more benefits. The same reason Democrats want all felons to instantly get their right to vote back knowing they will most certainly for free anything since they have already screwed up their own life.
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money,
that will herald the end of the republic.”
- Benjamin Franklin
Truer words have never been spoken!
Setting aside for the moment what constitutes ‘socialism,’ clearly the best course of action is to invest in education and training to ensure citizens are able to obtain the jobs available, and which will become available, during the course of this century, eliminating the need to resort to ‘socialism,’ whatever that’s supposed to be.As our technology advances, there will be fewer and fewer jobs. Those who oppose increases in Minimum Wage have continually pointed out that the unskilled laborers can be replaced by a machine. But technology can replace far more than unskilled laborers.
While many people, and politicians harp on and on about manufacturing jobs going overseas, they ignor the facts.
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"The US did indeed lose about 5.6m manufacturing jobs between 2000 and 2010. But according to a study by the Center for Business and Economic Research at Ball State University, 85 per cent of these jobs losses are actually attributable to technological change — largely automation — rather than international trade"
Our population is certain not going to stop growing. So we will have more people and fewer jobs.
I am certainly not a fan of socialism. But the idea that large numbers of the population will be allowed to starve because they have no way to earn a living will not work. At some point, even a well educated person will have not available positions for earning a wage.
The question is not 'if' but 'when'.
While I agree with investing much more in education and training, there simply will not be enough jobs for a major portion of the population as automation of industry progresses. So what is your solution for the people left out?Setting aside for the moment what constitutes ‘socialism,’ clearly the best course of action is to invest in education and training to ensure citizens are able to obtain the jobs available, and which will become available, during the course of this century, eliminating the need to resort to ‘socialism,’ whatever that’s supposed to be.As our technology advances, there will be fewer and fewer jobs. Those who oppose increases in Minimum Wage have continually pointed out that the unskilled laborers can be replaced by a machine. But technology can replace far more than unskilled laborers.
While many people, and politicians harp on and on about manufacturing jobs going overseas, they ignor the facts.
from: Subscribe to read
"The US did indeed lose about 5.6m manufacturing jobs between 2000 and 2010. But according to a study by the Center for Business and Economic Research at Ball State University, 85 per cent of these jobs losses are actually attributable to technological change — largely automation — rather than international trade"
Our population is certain not going to stop growing. So we will have more people and fewer jobs.
I am certainly not a fan of socialism. But the idea that large numbers of the population will be allowed to starve because they have no way to earn a living will not work. At some point, even a well educated person will have not available positions for earning a wage.
The question is not 'if' but 'when'.
OK, tell me now, how are you going to handle the people that are out of work? Let them starve? And it is not the immigrants, legal or illegal, that you will be letting starve. It will be people like the coal miners that thought they had a secure job. There are already a major number of them out of work, dependent on welfare to survive. They are almost all white and US citizens. Right now, in that area, a major cause of death for middle aged whites is suicide or drug overdose. Maybe you plan to provide the with free drugs? For a quick solution to there problems.It won't be technology that brings us to Socialism, it will be the nearly 50% of households who pay no income taxes and depend on taxpayers to support them.
Democrats are bent on bringing in more and more people with no skills so they benefit from the system and vote for more benefits. The same reason Democrats want all felons to instantly get their right to vote back knowing they will most certainly for free anything since they have already screwed up their own life.
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money,
that will herald the end of the republic.”
- Benjamin Franklin
Truer words have never been spoken!
It may be too late for the United States, in addition to cultural and education differences, but the German model has proven the most desirable and successful.While I agree with investing much more in education and training, there simply will not be enough jobs for a major portion of the population as automation of industry progresses. So what is your solution for the people left out?Setting aside for the moment what constitutes ‘socialism,’ clearly the best course of action is to invest in education and training to ensure citizens are able to obtain the jobs available, and which will become available, during the course of this century, eliminating the need to resort to ‘socialism,’ whatever that’s supposed to be.As our technology advances, there will be fewer and fewer jobs. Those who oppose increases in Minimum Wage have continually pointed out that the unskilled laborers can be replaced by a machine. But technology can replace far more than unskilled laborers.
While many people, and politicians harp on and on about manufacturing jobs going overseas, they ignor the facts.
from: Subscribe to read
"The US did indeed lose about 5.6m manufacturing jobs between 2000 and 2010. But according to a study by the Center for Business and Economic Research at Ball State University, 85 per cent of these jobs losses are actually attributable to technological change — largely automation — rather than international trade"
Our population is certain not going to stop growing. So we will have more people and fewer jobs.
I am certainly not a fan of socialism. But the idea that large numbers of the population will be allowed to starve because they have no way to earn a living will not work. At some point, even a well educated person will have not available positions for earning a wage.
The question is not 'if' but 'when'.
PLaces like ?. OOPS Sorry. Thats the worlds first fourth world shitholeStop sending aid to shithole countries and let the rats die
What does that have to do with the idea that technology is replacing workers at all levels?
The only reason overpopulation is a problem is due to foreign aid. It's certainly not happening in civilized countries.
It is not necessarily about OVERpopulation. It is about the population not having enough jobs for the number of workers.
While the US may not be overpopulated, our population continues to grow. And the availability of good jobs is going down.
In 2004 the US population was 304 million
In 2006 the US population was 310 million.
In 2012 The US population was 315 million
In 2014 the US population was 319 million.
In 2016 the US population was 324 million.
The WHITE population is in decline. Because whites know better than to bring children into this clown world we're living in. We're importing a bunch of jerks from south of the border and other 3rd world shitholes who breed like rabbits.
The elite are going to kill off a huge percentage of the population.
